On 2006-07-21 06:27:19 -0700, "hrwire@gmail.com" <hrwire@gmail.com> said:

> I know that after having Iyengar method training, I found it difficult
> to use Kundelini form as the muscle mechanics and sequences were not
> nearly as effective.  But that is purely my experience.  I am just an
> idiot on the internet.  I highly recommend exposing yourself to other
> forms and seeing for yourself.
> 
>
> Stu did you use the pranayamas during your Iyenger method training?

Yes.  Mr. Iyengar recommends a solid understanding in asana before
undertaking pranayama.  The theory goes that the body should be
adequately prepared.  For the first few years of asana practice the
only breath instructions is to keep the breath easy and not forced.
With time it is easy to keep the spine open, the shoulders rolled back,
the diaphragm soft, the side chest expanding at the same time relaxed.
With the proper preparation the body's own intelligence will take take
of the task of breathing, then pranayama "control" is only the
introduction of intent into the practice.  We use the body's natural
mechanism for the Kumbakas (retentions), the diaphragm, lungs and
supporting muscles after preparation allow for easy slowing of the
breath.

Prior to Iyengar method training I had some experience with pranayama,
from various yoga teachers.  It was not until I was taught it carefully
and methodically in the Iyengar method did I come to understand that
pranayama is not about breath at all.  It is about energy and its
movement through the body.  Properly done, the metabolism reposes,
samadhi comes spontaneously.  I have compared the experience to being
in a John C. Lilly type isolation tank.  If you ever have an
opportunity to try an isolation tank it I highly recommend it.  But
precise asana and pranayama will get you to the same place.

After a firm understanding of asanas (about 5 years) my Iyengar
trained yoga teacher taught panayama in very slow steps over 5 another
years,  This included very precise instructions to guard one's
equanimity as they practice.  These instructions are outlined fairly
well in Iyengar's book, "Light on Pranayama".  The exercises he
outlines are classic and I am sure you would find them similar and
familiar.  I understand that those who have trained under "The Self
Realization Fellowship" also find "Light on Pranayama" to be the same
form as their "Kriyas".  The SRF keeps the Kriyas secret unless you
have been initiated.

My experience with the 3HO training in pranayama is that they just jump
right in and do the deed with little or no preparation.  I did notice
some people hyperventilating during class.  I also notice some people
had constrictions in their chest that did not allow for full open
breaths.  The teacher did not correct these difficulties.

All yoga experiences are valid, who am I to criticize?  Many people
find Iyengar's approach too constricting, time consuming, and
difficult.  Initially it seems downright "unspiritual" in that the
instructions are very physical.  I am quite happy I eventually found
it, learned this method and stuck with it.
--
~Stu

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