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Lasik websites being honest about reduced glasses dependancy and lasik risks
http://www.njlaser.com/feye-faq1.htm


Q. Will I have perfect vision after surgery?
A. The goal of laser vision correction is to decrease your total
dependence on corrective lenses by giving you vision between 20/20 to
20/40. With this vision people generally perform their daily activities
without corrective lenses. Seventy percent of patients see 20/20, with
98.5% seeing between 20/20 to 20/40. The occasional use of corrective
lenses is anticipated for special activities. Thus while your vision is
good, it may not be 'perfect'.



Q. Is Laser Vision Correction safe?
A. All surgical procedures carry a potential risk. Laser Vision
Correction, in the hands of an experienced eye surgeon, is very low in
risk. This risk is extremely small (less than the risk associated with
extended wear contact lenses, for example). Therefore the FDA has
released its approval as 'safe and effective'. Nonetheless, all
patients should be well informed of the risks of treatment and follow
their preoperative and postoperative instructions carefully.



another website tells the truth about presbyopia and myopia keeping you
out of readers!


Do people become longsighted when they turn 40?
No. When people get into their 40's, they develop another problem with
their vision called presbyopia. This is an aging of the lens inside the
eye, which makes it difficult to focus up close. Nearly all people will
develop presbyopia at some point in their lives. Patients with
presbyopia only (no shortsightedness, longsightedness or astigmatism)
have excellent distance vision but poor close vision, and typically use
drugstore reading or cheater glasses. People who are shortsighted with
presbyopia generally need glasses for distance, and can take the
glasses off to see up close, even if they have presbyopia.
Shortsightedness allows people to get around the problem of presbyopia.



The biggest disappointments, doctors agree, come to those with inflated
expectations. While many people can achieve 20/20 or better eyesight,
it's more realistic to expect that the surgery will reduce but not
eliminate the need for glasses, says Massachusetts Eye and Ear
Infirmary's Azar. "I personally wouldn't operate on any patient who
expects to have perfect vision afterward," he says.




Old Post 07-18-06 07:27 AM
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serebel



Re: Lasik websites being honest about reduced glasses dependancy and lasik risks

And you KNOW that these sites are true, how?




Old Post 07-19-06 02:25 AM
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Ace



Re: Lasik websites being honest about reduced glasses dependancy and lasik risks

serebel wrote:
> And you KNOW that these sites are true, how?


They are sites put out by the lasik surgeons and company. As much as
they claim how "wonderful" lasik is, they are being honest about it
reducing dependancy on glasses. They even point out many people still
wear glasses occasionally for stuff like driving or watching movies.
They also point out if you are over 40, youll need readers unless you
ask to be undercorrected. They do exaggerate on the risks though as not
to scare people away




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serebel



Re: Lasik websites being honest about reduced glasses dependancy and lasik risks

Ace wrote:
> serebel wrote: 
>
>
> They are sites put out by the lasik surgeons and company. As much as
> they claim how "wonderful" lasik is, they are being honest about it
> reducing dependancy on glasses. They even point out many people still
> wear glasses occasionally for stuff like driving or watching movies.
> They also point out if you are over 40, youll need readers unless you
> ask to be undercorrected. They do exaggerate on the risks though as not
> to scare people away


So, they're put out by surgeons. How do you know what's true?




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Ace



Re: Lasik websites being honest about reduced glasses dependancy and lasik risks

serebel wrote:
> Ace wrote: 
>
>
>   So, they're put out by surgeons. How do you know what's true?


because I can see for myself that many people after lasik reduce their
dependancy on glasses. Regression and residual prescriptions are very
common and those who are picky tend to get glasses for some things they
do, especially driving.




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serebel



Re: Lasik websites being honest about reduced glasses dependancy and lasik risks

Ace wrote: 
>
> because I can see for myself that many people after lasik reduce their
> dependancy on glasses. Regression and residual prescriptions are very
> common and those who are picky tend to get glasses for some things they
> do, especially driving.


You never leave your room. You don't know many people who have had
lasik. The internet doesn't count here. You're living a lie little one.
You are not believable at all.




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Ragnar



Re: Lasik websites being honest about reduced glasses dependancy and lasik risks
On 18 Jul 2006 17:46:43 -0700, "Ace" <acemanvx@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>serebel wrote: 
>
>
>because I can see for myself that many people after lasik reduce their
>dependancy on glasses. Regression and residual prescriptions are very
>common and those who are picky tend to get glasses for some things they
>do, especially driving.


Reduces is the wrong word.  Eliminates dependency on glasses in most
casses.

Regression occurs in all cases.  The surgeon uses a formula known as a
nomogram to predict the regression.  Therefore, the correction
immediately following surgery is not the final correction.  The
initial vision should not be as clear as the final results.

You really have no idea what you are talking about.   It is not
possible for you to know what is what by reading up on the subject.
There are some very vocal lunatics out there posting under dozens of
aliases. and there are also marketing people who are overly positive.



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Robert Martellaro



Re: Lasik websites being honest about reduced glasses dependancy and lasik risks
On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 14:48:35 GMT, Ragnar <ragnarsuomi@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On 18 Jul 2006 17:46:43 -0700, "Ace" <acemanvx@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
>

>Reduces is the wrong word.  Eliminates dependency on glasses in most
>casses.

"LASIK is a surgical procedure intended to reduce a person's dependency on
glasses or contact lenses."

http://www.fda.gov/cdrh/LASIK/default.htm

Moreover, to say otherwise, whether from doctor to patient or in advertising
,
will put a cease and desist letter in your mailbox from either the FDA or th
e
FTC.
Robert Martellaro
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Optician/Owner
Roberts Optical
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"If a million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing."
-  Anatole France



Old Post 07-21-06 09:28 PM
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serebel



Re: Lasik websites being honest about reduced glasses dependancy and lasik risks

Robert Martellaro wrote: 
> glasses or contact lenses."
>
> Moreover, to say otherwise, whether from doctor to patient or in advertisi
ng,
> will put a cease and desist letter in your mailbox from either the FDA or 
the
> FTC.


Lasik and other RS is intended to eliminate dependency on glasses or
contacts. That intention is met better than 95% of the time.




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Ragnar



Re: Lasik websites being honest about reduced glasses dependancy and lasik risks
Nice try Mr. Optician.

First of all. the FDA is not god.  They get more things wrong than
they get right.  They are fairly toothless as far as enforcement..

Now. as for this link you posted. they do indeed say "reduces
dependency on glasses".   That is an extremely conservative statement.
It most certainly does reduce dependency on glasses or contact
lenses.. in almost all cases - it ELIMINATES the need for glasses or
contacts.

I find you to be despicable for attempting to use semantics to try and
make it sound as if LASIK is not effective.  10 milllion successful
surgeries prove you to be wrong.

By the way Bob.. just how much do you pay for the frames you sell for
$350.00?    I bet about $15.00




On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 13:02:41 -0500, Robert Martellaro
<robopt@nospam.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 14:48:35 GMT, Ragnar <ragnarsuomi@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>
>"LASIK is a surgical procedure intended to reduce a person's dependency on
>glasses or contact lenses."
>
>http://www.fda.gov/cdrh/LASIK/default.htm
>
>Moreover, to say otherwise, whether from doctor to patient or in advertisin
g,
>will put a cease and desist letter in your mailbox from either the FDA or t
he
>FTC.
>Robert Martellaro
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>Optician/Owner
>Roberts Optical
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>"If a million people believe a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing."
>-  Anatole France



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