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Ashley



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Hi! I have taken one yoga class, and I loved it so I am interested in
taking more! Can you recommend different types of yoga that would be
good for stress relief and positive results on the mind and the body?  I
would love to know more about yoga!  I want to handle my stress better
and I think that practicing yoga on a daily basis would help me with
this!  Any info would be awesome! I look forwarding to dialoging with
you all!



Old Post 09-03-04 03:08 AM
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Re: yoga
Hi Ashley,
Keep up with ur class! Commit to a do-able amount of time outside
class to practice at home.
Consider obtaining a book on yoga to supplement class and learn more
about what yoga is about.
Don't compete with other people in the class or u will set urself up
for an injury.
So I do believe it's better to err on the side of caution.
Yoga is a personal relationship for u to discover urself.
Ur doing it totally for u and ur best interests.
It embraces all aspects of life so it's not just exercise/asanas.
So it'a a lifestyle of self care.
This group has a website that Hari Har set up.
It lists certain books u might be consider to supplement ur practice.
http://members.lycos.co.uk/forum3ho/altyoga/index.htm
Breathing exercises (pranayama) are helpful with stress.
Ask your teacher to show u some techniques. Add them to ur home
practice. Always end ur home practice with relaxation.
Keep at it. It is a discipline that is beneficial. Every discipline
requires that committment/dedication to it. It teaches u to value
urself. Stress is body's fear reaction to difficult situation it needs
ur better self to handle in support of urself. We learn to practice
acceptance and detachment and confidence from right action. See yoga
is very deep but it's beneficial on all levels.
For the strength, flexibility, balance alone it's pretty cool.
The dietary aspects are also very important.
Seeking.

>Hi! I have taken one yoga class, and I loved it so I am interested in
>taking more! Can you recommend different types of yoga that would be
>good for stress relief and positive results on the mind and the body?  I
>would love to know more about yoga!  I want to handle my stress better
>and I think that practicing yoga on a daily basis would help me with
>this!  Any info would be awesome! I look forwarding to dialoging with
>you all!




Old Post 09-03-04 04:08 PM
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Stu



Re: yoga
On 2004-09-02 16:25:12 -0700, David <David@home.org> said:

> Ashley wrote:
> 
>
> I'd encourage you to try different kinds of yoga to find what suits you
> best. If you want the full mind. body, spirit experience I'd suggest
> avoiding the gyms. There are exceptions but they tend to be "yoga as
> exercise." Look for yoga studios. It sounds like what you want is a
> form of Hatha yoga (Hatha is the physical yoga most in the west know
> about).   Some popular (and thus usually easy to find) types of hatha
> yoga are Iyengar, Ashtanga, Kripalu and my favorite Anusara. For my
> taste the Iyengar and Ashtanga are too biased toward the physical
> without enough on the spiritual and Kripalu is the opposite. But that's
> me. Hope you find something just right for you.
>
> David

Anusara Yoga was developed by a certified Iyengar teacher, John Friend.
I am surprised that you find Iyengar style biased towards the
physical.  I know at a beginners level they do dwell on the
fundementals of asana, but as one progesses there is a distinct
infusion of the spiritual.

I highly recomend taking from an Iyengar certifed teacher early on so
that one gets good knowledge of anatomy, pathologies, and the
importance of modifying certain asanas for one's own body.

http://www.iyengar-yoga.com/  has links to teachers around the world.
--
~Stu




Old Post 09-04-04 12:19 AM
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Ashley



Re: yoga
Stu <Nospam@towel.com> wrote in message news:<2004090314441143658%Nospam@towelcom>..
> On 2004-09-02 16:25:12 -0700, David <David@home.org> said:
> 
>
> Anusara Yoga was developed by a certified Iyengar teacher, John Friend.
>  I am surprised that you find Iyengar style biased towards the
> physical.  I know at a beginners level they do dwell on the
> fundementals of asana, but as one progesses there is a distinct
> infusion of the spiritual.
>
> I highly recomend taking from an Iyengar certifed teacher early on so
> that one gets good knowledge of anatomy, pathologies, and the
> importance of modifying certain asanas for one's own body.
>
> http://www.iyengar-yoga.com/  has links to teachers around the world.
>
>
>
Thanks you guys!  I really appreciate the help! Do you find that your
practice in yoga helps relieve the everyday stresses that you go
through? That is what I am really looking for. Hatha yoga sounds good!
What does Anusara involve?
~Ashley



Old Post 09-07-04 12:08 PM
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Re: yoga
Ashley wrote:
> Stu <Nospam@towel.com> wrote in message news:<2004090314441143658%Nospam@t
owelcom>..
> 
>
> Thanks you guys!  I really appreciate the help! Do you find that your
> practice in yoga helps relieve the everyday stresses that you go
> through? That is what I am really looking for. Hatha yoga sounds good!
>  What does Anusara involve?
>  ~Ashley

Hi Ashley,

Hatha yoga is the term for the physical asana (poses) yoga that is most
commonly known in the west. There are other kinds of yoga surrounding
breathing, meditation forms, etc., that do not use the asanas. Anusara,
as Stu pointed out, is based on Iyengar yoga with a fair share of the
spiritual from Siddha yoga (a non-hatha form). It's web site is
www.anusara.com and that explains it pretty well. I like it because,
among other things, it is very good about alignment.

As for yoga a stress relief.. you'll be hard pressed to find a better
way to deal with immediate stress and to lessen the impact of stress
over the long term.

Best,
David




Old Post 09-07-04 12:08 PM
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Stu



Re: yoga
On 2004-09-04 15:27:03 -0700, David <David@home.org> said:

> Ashley wrote: 
>
> Hi Ashley,
>
> Hatha yoga is the term for the physical asana (poses) yoga that is most
> commonly known in the west. There are other kinds of yoga surrounding
> breathing, meditation forms, etc., that do not use the asanas. Anusara,
> as Stu pointed out, is based on Iyengar yoga with a fair share of the
> spiritual from Siddha yoga (a non-hatha form). It's web site is
> www.anusara.com and that explains it pretty well. I like it because,
> among other things, it is very good about alignment.
>
> As for yoga a stress relief.. you'll be hard pressed to find a better
> way to deal with immediate stress and to lessen the impact of stress
> over the long term.
>
> Best,
> David

Technically, Hatha Yoga is not limited to the asanas.  Hatha Yoga
refers to the practice of asana, pranayama and meditation.

Siddha Yoga refers to a cult (not in the bad way) who practice Hatha
yoga.  I used to live near their center in Santa Monica, CA and enjoyed
many a class in asana as well as their daily meditations.  John Friend
spent some time their and has integrated some of their teachings, with
Iyengar, as well as Vinyasana Styles of yoga.  John called his hibred
Anasara yoga.  The workshops and retreats are fairly pricey.

There is no question that asana practice will aid in stress release.
However there is a fair amount of research out there that concludes
that a regular meditation practice relieves daily stress in a profound
way.  I know in my own life meditation practice has been an immeserable
aid to the rigors or daily life.

Here are two links to commercial meditation sites:
http://www.chopra.com/article.asp?i..ogram=multi_day  This is run
by Deepak Chopra.  I know some people who have had good experiences
learning meditation from them.

http://www.tm.org/  This is the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's site.  It has
links to scientific studies.  The organization is little nutty lately,
their prices are outrageous.

http://www.wildmind.org/ is a Buddhist site with online lessons. Very
pleasant introduction.

In Los Angeles there are a number of societies that will teach
meditation for free.

Ultimately, a well rounded practice of asana pranayama and meditation
will go a long way towards stress release.

--
~Stu




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Stu



Re: yoga
On 2004-09-07 16:45:07 -0700, David <David@home.org> said:

>
> Stu wrote:
> 
>
> Stu,
>
> A little circumspection and less certainty might be appropriate. I'm
> not sure why you want to read such narrow interpretations into a
> general description meant to help a newcomer to yoga. But consider that
> her impression of the yoga world will be partly formed by how we here
> respond to her and to each other.
>
> As for Siddha yoga, try their website before you describe them to
> someone else, please. http://www.siddhayoga.org/
>
> David

Sorry if I sound nit-picky.  Its the nature of communcating through
text - if we were sitting in a cafe I am sure you would see my comments
as nothing but respectful.

Thanks for the link.  If you check out the Los Angeles chapter, that I
have attended about 10 years ago
http://www.symcla.org/lacal/frmhdr/9frame.htm you will see that they
offer asana classes.  (I couldn't resist setting the record straight).
BTW I will personally take you out for a double decafe non-fat soy if
you promise to feel no ill feeling from my comment.

--
~Stu




Old Post 09-21-04 08:30 AM
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Nisargam



Re: yoga

I have been doing Yoga since I was 8 year old,
I will just my experince about Yoga

Yoga is the science and Patanjali was the foundar of Yoga. Yoga means
unioin with universe or it means addition or it means the whole..and
basically health world comes the whole...a one goes beyond all sickness
when one merges into the whole..e.g. Jesus, Krishan, J. Krishnamurthy,
OSHO, Raman Maharishi, Kabir, Socretis are few name I can give who has the
same experince about the whole..but in order to reach there, there are
many techniques (paths) to do meditation. One book called Vigyan Bhairava
Tantra ( the scince of expanding conciouness) is 3000 years old, it also
called the book of secrets. Patanjali's method is very scientific and step
by step. if you follow then you will reach there too..other methods like
Tantra, Zen, Zazen, Tao are also there... Let me not deviate from Yoga
as you have asked only for Yoga. There 8 steps in Yoga. The first step is
to clean the body in order to sit and move easily. The question comes, why
I need to clean and what really needs to clean. We have collected so much
junk by the repression, emotionally, by eating junk food etc.. We become
so much tight due to tension and stress. The tension is dis-ease at mind
level but it reflrect in the body becasue mind and body are not separate.
Patanjali starts from the root, he knows we only know about our body. we
don't know much about mind and other subtle higher levels but he doesn't
start from higher, he goes step by step. He says, first work on body and
it will be effect on mind. e.g. if you bread heavy, you will feel you mind
has less traffic for a while. other example if one feel sexually it will
have effect on the body..so it is body-mind effect. My experince is Yoga
poster might take little time, I would suggest to do dynamic meditation
every monring or evening. It is jet start for all your tension and stress.
Buy a cd from oshopadmameditation.us and either you can do in a group or
do it at home. There are 5 steps for it. 1. 10 minutes heavy chaotic
breathing 2. Allow your body to throw everything out, jump, scream, go
naked, dance, talk non-sense..just be total mad for 10 minutes. 3. Jump
by saying HOO HOO.hit your sex center and wake up, thats' life energy 4.
10 minu Freeze..freeze mean freeze..and watch all thoughts without
judging them, this watching has to be carried in all stpes 5. 10 minutes
dance, share your job with everyone, even with enemy....I guess this
will be enough for today. Love, Nisargam. ymenpara@yahoo.com, 914-489-5422




Old Post 06-18-05 11:24 PM
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Don



Re: yoga
Nisargam wrote:
>
> I have been doing Yoga since I was 8 year old,
> I will just my experince about Yoga
>
> Yoga is the science and Patanjali was the foundar of Yoga. Yoga means
> unioin with universe or it means addition or it means the whole..and
> basically health world comes the whole...a one goes beyond all sickness
> when one merges into the whole..e.g. Jesus, Krishan, J. Krishnamurthy,
> OSHO, Raman Maharishi, Kabir, Socretis are few name I can give who has the
> same experince about the whole..but in order to reach there, there are
> many techniques (paths) to do meditation. One book called Vigyan Bhairava
> Tantra ( the scince of expanding conciouness) is 3000 years old, it also
> called the book of secrets. Patanjali's method is very scientific and step
> by step. if you follow then you will reach there too..other methods like
> Tantra, Zen, Zazen, Tao are also there... Let me not deviate from Yoga
> as you have asked only for Yoga. There 8 steps in Yoga. The first step is
> to clean the body in order to sit and move easily. The question comes, why
> I need to clean and what really needs to clean. We have collected so much
> junk by the repression, emotionally, by eating junk food etc.. We become
> so much tight due to tension and stress. The tension is dis-ease at mind
> level but it reflrect in the body becasue mind and body are not separate.
> Patanjali starts from the root, he knows we only know about our body. we
> don't know much about mind and other subtle higher levels but he doesn't
> start from higher, he goes step by step. He says, first work on body and
> it will be effect on mind. e.g. if you bread heavy, you will feel you mind
> has less traffic for a while. other example if one feel sexually it will
> have effect on the body..so it is body-mind effect. My experince is Yoga
> poster might take little time, I would suggest to do dynamic meditation
> every monring or evening. It is jet start for all your tension and stress.
> Buy a cd from oshopadmameditation.us and either you can do in a group or
> do it at home. There are 5 steps for it. 1. 10 minutes heavy chaotic
> breathing 2. Allow your body to throw everything out, jump, scream, go
> naked, dance, talk non-sense..just be total mad for 10 minutes. 3. Jump
> by saying HOO HOO.hit your sex center and wake up, thats' life energy 4.
> 10 minu Freeze..freeze mean freeze..and watch all thoughts without
> judging them, this watching has to be carried in all stpes 5. 10 minutes
> dance, share your job with everyone, even with enemy....I guess this
> will be enough for today. Love, Nisargam. ymenpara@yahoo.com, 914-489-5422

My Dear Nisargam,

I'm sure that you mean well. If you want to be taken seriously, though,
you must not make extravagant statements that you cannot support. Just
to give one example: Vijña:nabhairava is not 3,000 years old, and that
is obvious to anyone who has read the book. Why not start by reading it?

--Don
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/yogabare



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