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Ilena Rose



More Platinum Found in Women With Implants
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5829110/

More Platinum Found in Women With Implants

By DIEDTRA HENDERSON
The Associated Press

Updated: 9:03 a.m. ET Aug. 26, 2004WASHINGTON - Researchers have found
high concentrations of platinum in women who got silicone breast
implants and in the children they bore and breast-fed afterward.

The type of platinum found in the women's blood and urine was
different than the traces of regular platinum not uncommon in people's
bodies. It was a highly reactive platinum, used to help turn silicon
oil into the honey-like gel that lends a more natural feel to a breast
implant.

Concentrations were up to three times higher than in women who didn't
have breast implants, according to findings by S.V.M. Maharaj, a
chemist at American University. Maharaj was scheduled present the
findings Thursday to the American Chemical Society in Philadelphia.

Ernest Lykissa, a forensic and clinical toxicologist who co-authored
the paper, said the study's sample size was small. But Lykissa said it
fairly represented hundreds of women with implants he's studied over
the years.

Women who had implants the longest recorded the highest platinum
concentrations. The heavy metal was also found in bone marrow, where
blood cells are made.

Distinct from platinum released by catalytic converters in cars,
platinum in implants is treated with nitric and hydrochloric acids and
becomes very reactive, Lykissa said. The heavy metal readily binds in
the human body, especially to nerve endings, short-circuiting
communication with the brain.

"You see green, but you perceive a full moon," he said. "All of a
sudden, your brain system is not working right."

Some women developed nervous tics, had faulty perception, and impaired
hearing and eyesight, he said.

Children born to women with implants had problems with eyesight and
hearing, too, but those nervous system disorders may have been caused
by something else, he cautioned.

The Food and Drug Administration in January stunned plastic surgeons
when, contradicting the advice of its expert panel, it rejected
Inamed's bid to reintroduce silicone breast implants. After safety
concerns rose, the FDA banned such implants in 1992 for most patients.

In January, the drug regulatory agency asked Inamed for more details
about what happens when silicone seeps from the implant.

Dan Cohen, a spokesman for Santa Barbara, Calif.-based Inamed, said
the company would speak in detail about its formal reply, submitted to
the FDA earlier this month.

But at the FDA's October 2003 advisory board meeting, the company
briefly discussed platinum dispersion and concentration in implant
patients. The company has tracked those patients for three years.

"It was not an issue that anyone dwelled on _ either our presentation
or the panel," Cohen said.

For its part, the FDA in 2002 surveyed scientific literature that
indicated platinum leaks from implants into surrounding breast tissue.
Researchers said they didn't find anything suggesting women had
allergic responses to leached platinum.

Paul H. Wooley, director of research for orthopedic surgery at Wayne
State University, said it's been suspected for at least a decade that
heavy metals used in manufacturing might cause problems for women who
receive implants.

"I'm not sure these questions have been answered because, in general,
they haven't been asked," Wooley said. "For political reasons, working
on breast-implant patients has been somewhat difficult to do."

___

On the Web:

FDA: http://www.fda.gov/cdrh/breastimplants


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

For more on the very real dangers of breast implants, please visit:

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org



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Jeff



Re: More Platinum Found in Women With Implants
Can you please give us the journal link for this? I am sure a study this
important has been published.

Jeff





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Ilena Rose



Re: More Platinum Found in Women With Implants
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 23:28:16 -0400, "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>
>"Ilena Rose" <ilena@san.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:3a9ti011b05dng9pi07rrh43dqscijoqme@4ax.com.. 
>
>Apparently, there is new evidence. Can you please provide the reference for
>this? A news report doesn't cut it.
>
>Jeff


LOL .. that's what I have right now .. you can deny the harm of
breast implants to women and their offspring for years to come ..
you've been doing it for years.

By the time you figure it out millions of women will already have
puthemselves and their children at risk ..

Just why the Silicone Sellers pay ACSH and Junkscience.com and all
their quacky front group shillls to fill these groups with "no
evidence" BS.




Old Post 09-03-04 07:07 AM
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Mary Fisher



Re: More Platinum Found in Women With Implants

"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:cgu0qe$jj7@library1.airnews.net..
> 
I don't think I should respond to this, the whole thread as been reduced to
nastiness. However, since it's come to a personal response to me, from
politeness I shall reply to your offensive and silly post. Once only.
[vbcol=seagreen] 

I don't believe that anyone NEEDS silicone-fixens, my point was that it's
sad that women DO feel that they do. I don';t think you understood my point,
which is your problem. Women aren't just a pair of breasts. If that's what
men think that they are those men don't deserve to be considered. There's
much more to us.
[vbcol=seagreen] 

I neither need nor wish improvement to my breasts. I wanted a bilateral
mastectomy and if I have a recurrence I shall have one. and there's no way
that I'd want reconstruction or implants whether I had to pay for it or not
(in UK I wouldn't have to pay).
[vbcol=seagreen] 

That's my point, that women feel they have to have breasts, real or false,
to be whole. Would they push for a false finger if they lost one? Fingers
are far more important than breasts.
[vbcol=seagreen] 

Oh I DO enjoy life, nothing's going to stop my enjoyment. Except the
ultimate full stop. That's death, by the way.
[vbcol=seagreen] 

You're very silly. Those who do take notice of you and those like you are
misguided and I'm sad for them.

By the way, I don't have hooter/boob/knocker/jug cancer, I have breast
cancer. Your slang terms shows you in your true light and diminishes you.
[vbcol=seagreen]
> Actually, this about women who make the choice  to get implants to feel
> better about themselves.

I still say that they don't need implants to feel good about themselves.
Women are not a pair of breasts, we have far more to offer the world.





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Jeff



Re: More Platinum Found in Women With Implants

"Mary Fisher" <mary.fisher@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:41338146$0$22309$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net..
>
> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:cgu0qe$jj7@library1.airnews.net..

Note: The comments preceeded by three or four '>'s are not mine. Only those
proceed by 2 of these
 
> I don't think I should respond to this, the whole thread as been reduced
to
> nastiness. However, since it's come to a personal response to me, from
> politeness I shall reply to your offensive and silly post. Once only.
> 
>
> I don't believe that anyone NEEDS silicone-fixens, my point was that it's
> sad that women DO feel that they do. I don';t think you understood my
point,
> which is your problem. Women aren't just a pair of breasts. If that's what
> men think that they are those men don't deserve to be considered. There's
> much more to us.
> 
>
> I neither need nor wish improvement to my breasts. I wanted a bilateral
> mastectomy and if I have a recurrence I shall have one. and there's no way
> that I'd want reconstruction or implants whether I had to pay for it or
not
> (in UK I wouldn't have to pay).
> 
>
> That's my point, that women feel they have to have breasts, real or false,
> to be whole. Would they push for a false finger if they lost one? Fingers
> are far more important than breasts.

Not if you want to breast feed your baby.

Actually, whenever a person loses a body part or has a body part that is
different from other body parts, that can be a source of mental distress.

Hair is practically useless. Yet patients undergoing chemotherapy are
greatly upset by their loss of hair. People who lose limbs are upset not
only by he loss of use of the  limb, but by their appearence. People who
have facial injuries are upset both by the loss of thier looks. People who
get bruised in a crash are upset by the bruises. Vain or  no, our looks are
very important to us. And having breasts is a very important part of being a
woman.

Would you denie a woman plastic surgeury after a disfiguring crash? Or to a
child born with a  cleft lip? Why should we train surgeons at all in putting
in sutures nicely. As long the wound doesn't get infected and the repair is
strong, taht should be it, right?

Like or not, breasts are an important part of a female's self image.

When a patient undergoes any precedure, like removal of a toe from diabetes,
removal of testical because it is undescended, a scare following open repair
of a broken bone, the differences between before and after, as well as
between one's peers is a source of psychological scaring.

If a woman doesn't feel comfortable because she has small breasts, I see
absolutely nothing wrong with implants to make them bigger.> > > Get with
the program, my dear, fixx'em...and enjoy life.
>
> Oh I DO enjoy life, nothing's going to stop my enjoyment. Except the
> ultimate full stop. That's death, by the way.

And if a woman is not happy with her body image, I see nothing wrong with
having surgery to improve it.
 
>
> You're very silly. Those who do take notice of you and those like you are
> misguided and I'm sad for them.
>
> By the way, I don't have hooter/boob/knocker/jug cancer, I have breast
> cancer. Your slang terms shows you in your true light and diminishes you.

I agree with this.
 
>
> I still say that they don't need implants to feel good about themselves.

I disagree. If breast enhancement or replacement surgery makes one feel
better, I am all for it. If one feels completely comfortable after breast
surgery without replace, then more power to her!

To each his/her own, including the choice of having breast replacement
surgery.

If I had one of my breasts removed for whatever reason (and  breast cancer
does happen to males), then I would want replacement surgery.

> Women are not a pair of breasts, we have far more to offer the world.

Far more. However, if the surgery helps a female feel better and more like
herself, I fail to see why she should not have the surgery.

Jeff





Old Post 09-07-04 07:06 AM
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Coleah



Re: More Platinum Found in Women With Implants

"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ch0fis$ps0@library2.airnews.net..
>
> "Mary Fisher" <mary.fisher@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:41338146$0$22309$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net.. 
>
> Note: The comments preceeded by three or four '>'s are not mine. Only
> those
> proceed by 2 of these
> 
> to 
> point, 
> not 
>
> Not if you want to breast feed your baby.
>
> Actually, whenever a person loses a body part or has a body part that is
> different from other body parts, that can be a source of mental distress.
>
> Hair is practically useless. Yet patients undergoing chemotherapy are
> greatly upset by their loss of hair. People who lose limbs are upset not
> only by he loss of use of the  limb, but by their appearence. People who
> have facial injuries are upset both by the loss of thier looks. People who
> get bruised in a crash are upset by the bruises. Vain or  no, our looks
> are
> very important to us. And having breasts is a very important part of being
> a
> woman.
>
> Would you denie a woman plastic surgeury after a disfiguring crash? Or to
> a
> child born with a  cleft lip? Why should we train surgeons at all in
> putting
> in sutures nicely. As long the wound doesn't get infected and the repair
> is
> strong, taht should be it, right?
>
> Like or not, breasts are an important part of a female's self image.
>
> When a patient undergoes any precedure, like removal of a toe from
> diabetes,
> removal of testical because it is undescended, a scare following open
> repair
> of a broken bone, the differences between before and after, as well as
> between one's peers is a source of psychological scaring.
>
> If a woman doesn't feel comfortable because she has small breasts, I see
> absolutely nothing wrong with implants to make them bigger.> > > Get with
> the program, my dear, fixx'em...and enjoy life. 
>
> And if a woman is not happy with her body image, I see nothing wrong with
> having surgery to improve it.
> 
>
> I agree with this.
> 
>
> I disagree. If breast enhancement or replacement surgery makes one feel
> better, I am all for it. If one feels completely comfortable after breast
> surgery without replace, then more power to her!
>
> To each his/her own, including the choice of having breast replacement
> surgery.
>
> If I had one of my breasts removed for whatever reason (and  breast cancer
> does happen to males), then I would want replacement surgery.
> 
>
> Far more. However, if the surgery helps a female feel better and more like
> herself, I fail to see why she should not have the surgery.
>
> Jeff
========================

Mary and Jeff both offer great points.

Women are indeed more than their 'breasts'.  Some women's
self-esteem is high enough to live without implants and never
even consider them.  Other women could have implants and
dozens of other cosmetic procedures and never find the identity
of who they really are.

Women deserve a choice also.
Give women an FDA approved product, education opportunities of possible
complications, a mandated informed consent form that spells it out
clearly and let them make their own choice.












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