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Jack



Why General Anaesthesia For Partial Meniscectomy?
It was surprising to learn that general is the preferred choice,
although local or regional are used also for this arthroscopic
procedure, which entails the shaving of loose cartilage from the knee
joint.

Asking the surgeon is like talking to the wall.  He mumbled something
about having to use a tourniquet.

Anyway, does anyone know why general anaesthesia is preferred?



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Mxsmanic



Re: Why General Anaesthesia For Partial Meniscectomy?
Jack writes:

> It was surprising to learn that general is the preferred choice,
> although local or regional are used also for this arthroscopic
> procedure, which entails the shaving of loose cartilage from the knee
> joint.
>
> Asking the surgeon is like talking to the wall.  He mumbled something
> about having to use a tourniquet.

Ask the anesthesiologist instead.

> Anyway, does anyone know why general anaesthesia is preferred?

I don't know that any type of anesthesia is mandated for most
procedures.  It's a choice of the anesthesiologist in cooperation with
the surgeon or surgical team and (sometimes) the patient.

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Puddin' Man



Re: Why General Anaesthesia For Partial Meniscectomy?
On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 13:07:06 GMT, windswept@home.net (Jack) wrote:

>It was surprising to learn that general is the preferred choice,
>although local or regional are used also for this arthroscopic
>procedure, which entails the shaving of loose cartilage from the knee
>joint.
>
>Asking the surgeon is like talking to the wall.  He mumbled something
>about having to use a tourniquet.
>
>Anyway, does anyone know why general anaesthesia is preferred?

Why general anaesthesia is preferred by any particular
practitioner? Couldn't say.

Just a somewhat educated guess: many/most docs assume that some
patients nerves are not up to remaining still whilst the doc
is excavating in his/her knee (or wherever). Simpler/safer
to just put 'em all under.

Think what could happen if the patient suffered an attack of
anxiety and did a knee-jerk while the little scalpels were
engaged. Or if a local was insufficient or wore off sooner
than expected.

I'd rather be 100% under for such procedure.

Prost,
Puddin'



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Re: Why General Anaesthesia For Partial Meniscectomy?
because it hurts??

had one last year..excellent anesthesia guy..was under for less than an
hour.and woke up instantly once the med was stopped..best general
anesthesia experience I have ever had.and have had many

no post op nausea..they filled the joint with lidocaine,,so post op pain
was minimal for the first 12 hours as well..

having seen arthroscopies on the health channel..ain't no way anyone would
stick that scope into my knee if I was awake..


"Jack" <windswept@home.net> wrote in message
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> It was surprising to learn that general is the preferred choice,
> although local or regional are used also for this arthroscopic
> procedure, which entails the shaving of loose cartilage from the knee
> joint.
>
> Asking the surgeon is like talking to the wall.  He mumbled something
> about having to use a tourniquet.
>
> Anyway, does anyone know why general anaesthesia is preferred?





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Howard McCollister



Re: Why General Anaesthesia For Partial Meniscectomy?

"Jack" <windswept@home.net> wrote in message
news:43f08475.6967062@news-60.giganews.com..
> It was surprising to learn that general is the preferred choice,
> although local or regional are used also for this arthroscopic
> procedure, which entails the shaving of loose cartilage from the knee
> joint.
>
> Asking the surgeon is like talking to the wall.  He mumbled something
> about having to use a tourniquet.
>
> Anyway, does anyone know why general anaesthesia is preferred?

A simple arthroscopic meniscectomy is a short case, and having good
relaxation is important. Spinal or epidural can be used, but really, that's
more complicated and the PACU recovery is much slower. A femoral-sciatic
block can be used, but is a little tricky, and if it doesn't work then you
end up with general anesthesia anyway. Local anesthetic can also be used,
but the same thing applies. Anything that doesn't uniformly allow complete
patient cooperation and muscle relaxation makes the operation more difficult
and take longer. Bottom line, that operation under local or regional
anesthesia is no safer, no cheaper, and recovery is not uniformly quicker.
With general anesthesia, the hassles to the patient and to the surgeon are
less and patient acceptance is better.

HMc






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Adelle



Re: Why General Anaesthesia For Partial Meniscectomy?

"Howard McCollister" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:43f0c193$0$69616$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com..
>
> "Jack" <windswept@home.net> wrote in message
> news:43f08475.6967062@news-60.giganews.com.. 
>
> A simple arthroscopic meniscectomy is a short case, and having good
> relaxation is important. Spinal or epidural can be used, but really,
> that's more complicated and the PACU recovery is much slower. A
> femoral-sciatic block can be used, but is a little tricky, and if it
> doesn't work then you end up with general anesthesia anyway. Local
> anesthetic can also be used, but the same thing applies. Anything that
> doesn't uniformly allow complete patient cooperation and muscle relaxation
> makes the operation more difficult and take longer. Bottom line, that
> operation under local or regional anesthesia is no safer, no cheaper, and
> recovery is not uniformly quicker. With general anesthesia, the hassles to
> the patient and to the surgeon are less and patient acceptance is better.
>
> HMc



And according to two knee specialists I've seen - the outcome is better. To
maneuver around the joint with the scopes and miniaturized instruments is
pretty tricky. I've been told it's easier to reach things when the joint is
fully relaxed. Spinal anesthesia will do the same thing. But most others
still allow for the patient's resistance and anticipation to maintain some
level of tension in the joint.

Adelle





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Zombywoof



Re: Why General Anaesthesia For Partial Meniscectomy?
On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 13:07:06 GMT, windswept@home.net (Jack) wrote:

>It was surprising to learn that general is the preferred choice,
>although local or regional are used also for this arthroscopic
>procedure, which entails the shaving of loose cartilage from the knee
>joint.
>
>Asking the surgeon is like talking to the wall.  He mumbled something
>about having to use a tourniquet.
>
>Anyway, does anyone know why general anaesthesia is preferred?
>
Because you are limp as a biscuit.  You will not voluntarily move
causing a possible slip of the knife.  Modern general anesthesia is
very safe & effective.  Most patients are awake & fully alert very
shortly after the medication used to sedate them is removed.

Now that being said, it is usually a joint decision reached by the
patient, the Dr and the anesthesiologist.  If for some reason you
don't want to go down, or have medical issues that would preclude you
being put down, you should bring the issues up with your medical team.
Everything is your choice.  However, they may not agree to proceed
given your choice.


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US Special Forces soldier, a Reuters News agent asked
the soldier what he felt when sniping members of Al Quaeda
in Afghanistan.

The soldier shrugged and replied, "Recoil." (Possible Urban Legend)



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LooseCannon



Re: Why General Anaesthesia For Partial Meniscectomy?
Hawki63@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> because it hurts??
>
> had one last year..excellent anesthesia guy..was under for less than an
> hour.and woke up instantly once the med was stopped..best general
> anesthesia experience I have ever had.and have had many
>
> no post op nausea..they filled the joint with lidocaine,,so post op pain
> was minimal for the first 12 hours as well..
>
> having seen arthroscopies on the health channel..ain't no way anyone woul
d
> stick that scope into my knee if I was awake..

It sure LOOKS like it hurts, and I cant imagine too many more sensitive
areas on the body than the knees (yeah, theres a few, but not too many!)

I am grateful every day that I have neither knee nor back problems!

>
>
> "Jack" <windswept@home.net> wrote in message
> news:43f08475.6967062@news-60.giganews.com..
> 
>
>
>



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Nann Bell



Re: Why General Anaesthesia For Partial Meniscectomy?
> Anyway, does anyone know why general anaesthesia is preferred?

i second the idea of asking the anesthesiologist.

i know there can be underlying reasons.  they did general for my thumb
synovectomy, rather to my surprise.  surgeon said the thumb is really hard t
o
numb up via other methods for some reason.  bummer though, i hate that
anesthesia hangover that follows general.  (ya know, i never planned to be
comparing my experiences under anesthesia this way before i even hit 50!)

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Nann
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Carol



Re: Why General Anaesthesia For Partial Meniscectomy?
I recently had this procedure on my left knee. The surgeon wanted general
anesthesia, but I didn't want it! I told him that about a year earlier I had
experienced trauma surgery with nerve blocks because the doctors had a lot
of trouble intubating me.

The day of my knee surgery, my surgeon and my anesthesiologist came and
talked to me about my history and did a physical exam. The consulted and
agreed to not intubate me. They did the surgery with iv drugs - versed and
some other stuff - with no problem. The surgeon said he preferred general
because of the total relaxation - it made it easier for him to move my leg
around as needed.

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"Jack" <windswept@home.net> wrote in message
news:43f08475.6967062@news-60.giganews.com..
> It was surprising to learn that general is the preferred choice,
> although local or regional are used also for this arthroscopic
> procedure, which entails the shaving of loose cartilage from the knee
> joint.
>
> Asking the surgeon is like talking to the wall.  He mumbled something
> about having to use a tourniquet.
>
> Anyway, does anyone know why general anaesthesia is preferred?





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