THERE REALLY ARE ONLY 2 ACCOUNTS OF Leslie Packer and the
letter that make any sense to me.

STORY 1.

SEE:  http://tinyurl.com/8se4l   !!

and  http://tinyurl.com/9s8xu  !!! !!! !!!

-->  -->  THERE IS NO EVIDENCE TO THE CONTRARY.  <--  <--

**OR IF YOU WANT TO BELIEVE THE ONLY OTHER PLAUSIBLE STORY OF
LESLIE E. PACKER OF NEW YORK**

Story 2:  Leslie E. Packer of NY lied to police and is disobeying an
agreement POLICE HAD HER MAKE WITH THEM and is using "Taylor Jimenez" of
wilhelp.com

Here are some FACTS ABOUT LESLIE PACKER, stalker/harasser by-proxy:

A Small Sample of the Inappropriate and Unethical
and Possibly Illegal Conduct of New York
Tourette Psychologist, Leslie Packer
(Much of this inappropriate conduct by 'Dr.' Leslie Packer occurred
before 1999 -- the date she "turned up the heat", misusing
the  'credibility' of her field or that the field once had.)

Leslie Packer cannot seem to keep from being involved with those who
want to CONTINUE to stalk and harass her "enemies" WITH HER HELP.

In the spp newsgroup this summer (2005) WE HAVE SEEN **excellent
evidence**
that a depraved, unethical psychologist, Leslie Packer, LIED TO POLICE
and
disobeyed an agreement she made with POLICE.

THIS LINK is a  SIGNIFICANT ELABORATION ON THE FIRST 2 STATEMENTS
(above).

Packer is NOW likely CONSIDERED A CRANK AND IS PROHIBITED FROM
CONTACTING THOSE AUTHORITIES on the BOGUS matter of her complaints
about the Usenet (newsgroup) posts of Brad Jesness. They think poorly of
her lying
to police also.


All the following is also true:


** 7 reasons not to use tourette "psychologist" Leslie E. Packer of NY **:

(1) Leslie Packer is an apparently insane and unethical psychologist who
should
NOT be licensed. She has *no degree* in clinical or counseling psychology
or any counseling area, and thus should not be licensed as a
psychologist.


(2) She is known as "Licensing Loophole Leslie"and has a history as a
crank and harasser of real doctors -- who very much dislike her.

(3) see
http://tinyurl.com/486jp to see her telling mental health clients to
shoot themselves

(4) If you read the posts at http://tinyurl.com/4cpyk , you will see
her using her then underage children to vote for people as kooks
(these children are all of adult age now).  Although Leslie
Packer "nuked"
literally 100s of her embarrassing posts from the groups.google.com
archive, one post that QUOTES *HER ADMISSION* OF GUIDING HER
then UNDERAGE CHILDREN TO VOTE FOR PEOPLE AS "KOOKS" on
the abuse newsgroup, alt.usenet.kooks, is ** RIGHT HERE (this link) **.

(5) she spent years and made hundreds of posts to abuse newsgroups
eliciting and soliciting punks to help her with her stalking, harassment,
lies, and
defamation -- this resulted in the total destruction of one sci
psychology newsgroup

And:

(6) Leslie Packer has a history of repeating and promulgating lies in
a stalking and harassing (and off-topic spamming) manner in order
to drive legitimate posters off of legitimate newsgroups. (In short, not
only her
enlisted punks did the stalking, harassment, and spamming to
abuse. Leslie Packer, herself, did too.)

AND


(7) One should add that Leslie Packer, being admonished by police to
stop her defamatory posting, apparently never has stopped
contributing to the defamatory being done by her enlisted mob of
hoodlums. To this day, there is clear involvement of Leslie Packer
in off-topic personal abusive spam on the Internet.

Leslie Packer is mean and seems insane, since she does not know right
from wrong and continues to help stalking and harassing hoodlum engage
in defamation during their stalking and harassing off-topic personally
malicious posts.

NO one in their right mind in New York should consider using tourette
psychologist, Leslie Packer for their children.

One should also MOST CERTAINLY REVIEW LESLIE PACKER'S ROLE
IN THE DISGRACEFUL HISTORY of the sci.psychology.psychotherapy AND
her special role as one of my egregious and most-constant
harassers/defamers.

Here is all she has said in response to requests to stop harassing/lying
and defaming by-proxy and to the material above:

Path: g2news1.google.com!news4.google.com!news.glorb.com!news.alt.net!
sjc1usenetserver.com!newsusenetserver.com!fe.40usenetserver.com!
pipelinenyc.com!POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail
From: "Leslie E. Packer, PhD" <lpacker@pipelinenyc.com>
Newsgroups: sci.psychology.psychotherapy
Subject: Re: Who is Leslie Packer (no degree in counseling or clinical
psyc)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 03:01:08 -0500
Organization: PhuD
Lines: 10
Message-ID: <6de623bc6a954deea1a49920dec27558@news.newsreadercom>
References: <F7EQ5DAT38524.2887731481@anonymous.poster>
Mime-Version: 1.0
User-Agent: Mozilla/0.6.7 (Linux kernel 0.99)
X-Accept-Language: en-us, en
X-Compliants-To: abuse@usenetserver.cam

Italy Anonymous Remailer <nobody@See.Comments.Header> wrote:
> Hey, ya' all:
>
> So you want to keep talking about the topic ONLY "Licensing Loophole"
> Leslie Packer could have "put out there"/  Fine. I STILL HOLD HER
> RESPONSIBLE, SINCE SHE NOT ONLY GAVE THE "GOODS" TO PUNK BUT ENLISTED
> THEIR STALKING SERVICES IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Shut the XXXX up, jerk.

(end quote)

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