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Subject: hurricane
Subject: hurricane


Hi all.  Hope you're well.

Below is the first communication we've had from a dear family friend who
lives in New Orleans.  When the threat of Katrina was realized, he sent
his wife and two young girls to Jackson, MS where his parents live. but
he stayed behind.
He is a pathologist and had checked into the Ritz for a medical
convention -- which presumably would be safe.  That's where he remains.

Thought you'd find his reports from the front line interesting.







Subject: Re: hurricane

Thanks to all of you who have sent your notes of concern and your
prayers.  I am writing this note on Tuesday at 2PM .  I wanted to update
all of you as to the situation here.  I don't know how much information
you are getting but I am certain it is more than we are getting.  Be
advised that almost everything I am telling you is from direct
observation or rumor from reasonable sources.  They are allowing limited
internet access, so I hope to send this dispatch today.

Personally, my family and I are fine.  My family is safe in Jackson, MS,
and I am now a temporary resident of the Ritz Carleton Hotel in New
Orleans.  I figured if it was my time to go, I wanted to go in a place
with a good wine list.  In addition, this hotel is in a very old
building on Canal Street that could and did sustain little damage.  Many
of the other hotels sustained significant loss of windows, and we expect
that many of the guests may be evacuated here.

Things were obviously bad yesterday, but they are much worse today.
Overnight the water arrived.  Now Canal Street (true to its origins) is
indeed a canal.  The first floor of all downtown buildings are
underwater.  I have heard that Charity Hospital and Tulane are limited
in their ability to care for patients because of water.  Ochsner is the
only hospital that remains fully functional. However, I spoke with them
today and they too are on generator and losing food and water fast.  The
city now has no clean water, no sewerage system, no electricity, and no
real communications.  Bodies are still being recovered floating in the
floods.  We are worried about a cholera epidemic.  Even the police are
without effective communications  We have a group of armed police here
with us at the hotel that are admirably trying to exert some local law
enforcement.  This is tough because looting is now rampant.  Most of it
is not malicious looting.  These are poor and desperate people with no
housing and no medical care and no food or water trying to take care of
themselves and their families.  Unfortunately, the people are armed and
dangerous  We hear gunshots frequently.  Most of Canal street is
occupied by armed looters who have a low threshold for discharging their
weapons.  We hear gunshots frequently.  The looters are using makeshift
boats made of pieces of  styrofoam to access.  We are still waiting for
a significant national guard presence.

The health care situation here has dramatically worsened overnight.
Many people in the hotel are elderly and small children.  Many other
guests have unusual diseases.  There are ID physicians at this hotel
attending an HiV convention.  We have commandered the world famous
French Quarter Bar to turn into an makeshift clinic.  There is a team of
about 7 doctors, PA and pharmacists.  We anticipate that this will be
the major medical facility in the central business district and French
Quarter.

Our biggest adventure today was raiding the Walgreens on Canal  under
police escort.  The pharmacy was dark and full  of water.  We basically
scooped the entire drug sets into garbage bags and removed them.  All
under police excort.  The looters had to be held back at gunpoint.
After a dose of prophylactic Cipro,  I hope to be fine.

In all we are faring well.  With the setup  of  a hospital in the French
Qarter bar in the hotel, we will start admitting patients today.  Many
will  be from the hotel, but many will  not.  We anticipate dealing with
multiple medical problems, medications and acute injuries.  Infection
and perhaps even cholera are anticipated major problems.   Food and
water shortages are iminent.

The biggest question to all of us is where is the national guard?   We
hear jet fighters and helicopters, but no real armed presence, and hence
the rampant looting.   There is no Red Cross and no salvation army.

In a sort of cliché way, this is an edifying experience.  One  is
rapidly focused away from the transient and material to the bare
necessities of life  It has been challenging to me to learn how to be a
primary care phyisican.  We are under martial law so returning  to our
homes is impossible.   I don't know how long it will be and this is my
greatest fear. Despite it all, this is a soul edify experience.  The
greatest pain is to think about the loss.  And how long the rebuid
will.   And the horror of so many dead people .

PLEASE SEND THIS DISPATCH TO ALL YOU THINK  MAY BE INTERSTED IN A
DISPATCH  from the front.  I will send more according to your interest.
Hopefully their collective prayers will be answered.  By the way suture
packs, sterile gloves and stethoscopes will be needed as the Ritz turns
into a MASH.

Greg  Henderson, MD
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Old Post 09-24-05 07:09 PM
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Re: Subject: hurricane
In article <431AFB3B.D632FFD2@hotmail.com>, equsphotogophr@hotmail.com
(hoofprints) wrote:

> Subject: hurricane
>
>
> Hi all.  Hope you're well.
>
> Below is the first communication we've had from a dear family friend who
> lives in New Orleans.  When the threat of Katrina was realized, he sent
> his wife and two young girls to Jackson, MS where his parents live. but
> he stayed behind.
> He is a pathologist and had checked into the Ritz for a medical
> convention -- which presumably would be safe.  That's where he remains.
>
> Thought you'd find his reports from the front line interesting.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Subject: Re: hurricane
>
> Thanks to all of you who have sent your notes of concern and your
> prayers.  I am writing this note on Tuesday at 2PM .  I wanted to update
> all of you as to the situation here.  I don't know how much information
> you are getting but I am certain it is more than we are getting.  Be
> advised that almost everything I am telling you is from direct
> observation or rumor from reasonable sources.  They are allowing limited
> internet access, so I hope to send this dispatch today.
>
> Personally, my family and I are fine.  My family is safe in Jackson, MS,
> and I am now a temporary resident of the Ritz Carleton Hotel in New
> Orleans.  I figured if it was my time to go, I wanted to go in a place
> with a good wine list.  In addition, this hotel is in a very old
> building on Canal Street that could and did sustain little damage.  Many
> of the other hotels sustained significant loss of windows, and we expect
> that many of the guests may be evacuated here.
>
> Things were obviously bad yesterday, but they are much worse today.
> Overnight the water arrived.  Now Canal Street (true to its origins) is
> indeed a canal.  The first floor of all downtown buildings are
> underwater.  I have heard that Charity Hospital and Tulane are limited
> in their ability to care for patients because of water.  Ochsner is the
> only hospital that remains fully functional. However, I spoke with them
> today and they too are on generator and losing food and water fast.  The
> city now has no clean water, no sewerage system, no electricity, and no
> real communications.  Bodies are still being recovered floating in the
> floods.  We are worried about a cholera epidemic.  Even the police are
> without effective communications  We have a group of armed police here
> with us at the hotel that are admirably trying to exert some local law
> enforcement.  This is tough because looting is now rampant.  Most of it
> is not malicious looting.  These are poor and desperate people with no
> housing and no medical care and no food or water trying to take care of
> themselves and their families.  Unfortunately, the people are armed and
> dangerous  We hear gunshots frequently.  Most of Canal street is
> occupied by armed looters who have a low threshold for discharging their
> weapons.  We hear gunshots frequently.  The looters are using makeshift
> boats made of pieces of  styrofoam to access.  We are still waiting for
> a significant national guard presence.
>
> The health care situation here has dramatically worsened overnight.
> Many people in the hotel are elderly and small children.  Many other
> guests have unusual diseases.  There are ID physicians at this hotel
> attending an HiV convention.  We have commandered the world famous
> French Quarter Bar to turn into an makeshift clinic.  There is a team of
> about 7 doctors, PA and pharmacists.  We anticipate that this will be
> the major medical facility in the central business district and French
> Quarter.
>
> Our biggest adventure today was raiding the Walgreens on Canal  under
> police escort.  The pharmacy was dark and full  of water.  We basically
> scooped the entire drug sets into garbage bags and removed them.  All
> under police excort.  The looters had to be held back at gunpoint.
> After a dose of prophylactic Cipro,  I hope to be fine.
>
> In all we are faring well.  With the setup  of  a hospital in the French
> Qarter bar in the hotel, we will start admitting patients today.  Many
> will  be from the hotel, but many will  not.  We anticipate dealing with
> multiple medical problems, medications and acute injuries.  Infection
> and perhaps even cholera are anticipated major problems.   Food and
> water shortages are iminent.
>
> The biggest question to all of us is where is the national guard?   We
> hear jet fighters and helicopters, but no real armed presence, and hence
> the rampant looting.   There is no Red Cross and no salvation army.
>
> In a sort of cliché way, this is an edifying experience.  One  is
> rapidly focused away from the transient and material to the bare
> necessities of life  It has been challenging to me to learn how to be a
> primary care phyisican.  We are under martial law so returning  to our
> homes is impossible.   I don't know how long it will be and this is my
> greatest fear. Despite it all, this is a soul edify experience.  The
> greatest pain is to think about the loss.  And how long the rebuid
> will.   And the horror of so many dead people .
>
> PLEASE SEND THIS DISPATCH TO ALL YOU THINK  MAY BE INTERSTED IN A
> DISPATCH  from the front.  I will send more according to your interest.
> Hopefully their collective prayers will be answered.  By the way suture
> packs, sterile gloves and stethoscopes will be needed as the Ritz turns
> into a MASH.
>
> Greg  Henderson, MD

http://www.granma.cu/ingles/2005/se../37reitera.html

PRESIDENT Fidel Castro last night reiterated Cuba's disposition to help
Hurricane Katrina victims in spite of the silence of Washington regarding Cu
ba's
aid offer.

Fidel met on Sunday evening with 1,586 doctors toting backpacks filled with
medicine and essential equipment for treating people in emergency conditions
like those in the region lashed by the hurricane in the neighboring country.

The president said that Cuba had fulfilled its commitment, confirmed by the
rapid constitution of the medical force to aid those affected by Katrina in 
the
states of Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama.

He noted that because of its proximity to the affected areas, it was possibl
e
for Cuba to send 1,100 doctors to save people in danger of dying, but the nu
mber
of those called up had risen to 1,586.

"Forty-eight hours have passed, and we have not received any response to our
offer," he noted. "We will wait patiently for as long as it takes," he added
.

If no response arrives, or if Cuba's cooperation were not necessary, it woul
d
not be any cause for discouragement among our ranks, he added.

"Very much on the contrary, we would be satisfied that we had fulfilled our
duty, and extremely happy to know that not one more U.S. citizen out of thos
e
who suffered the painful and treacherous blow of Hurricane Katrina would die
without medical attention, if that were to be the cause for our doctors'
absence," he affirmed.

During the meeting, and at the proposal of Fidel, the group of doctors was n
amed
the Henry Reeve Medical Brigade, in honor of a man from the United States wh
o
gave his life during the first Cuban Independence War against the Spanish
colonial power.

The Cuban president stated that in this kind of situation, it didn't matter 
how
rich a country might be, or the number of its scientists or technical advanc
es.
"What is required at this moment is a team of young, well-trained profession
als
who, with a minimum of resources, can be sent where human beings are in dang
er
of dying."

He affirmed that in the case of Cuba, being geographically close to the affe
cted
areas, the circumstances were appropriate for offering aid to the U.S. peopl
e.

He explained that each one of the doctors was equipped with two backpacks fu
ll
of medicines and essential equipment for diagnosing and treating many differ
ent
diseases.

Cuba has more than 130,000 health professionals, he noted, of whom more than
25,000 are on international missions in Latin America, Asia and Africa.

The medical brigade standing ready to go to the United States includes 1,097
specialists in comprehensive general medicine; 351 general and intensive car
e
doctors; 72 with specialties in more than one area, and 66 specialists in
cardiology, pediatrics, surgery, gastroenterology and other areas.

The Cuban medical brigade members have an average of 10 years of professiona
l
experience and an average age of 32.

Memories of Che, A Revolutionary son of Ireland
http://irelandsown.net/Che3.html

Iraq Body Count

http://www.iraqbodycount.net/

The Truth Shall Set You Free

http://www.nobeliefs.com/DarkBible/..bleContents.htm

Nemesis - The Divine Goddess of Retribution

http://thanasis.com/modern/nemesis.htm

Alan

http://www.veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk/mylinks.html

Nemesis, winged balancer of life,
dark-faced Goddess, daughter of Justice,
You who restrain with adamantine bridles
the frivolous insolences of mortals,
and spurning the destructive violence of mankind
drive out black envy!
Beneath Your unceasing, traceless orbit
is spun the grey fortune of man
and unnoticed You walk in his tracks,
you bend the neck that is proud.
Beneath Your arm You ever measure out life
and ever do You lower Your eye to Your bosom
as You control the scales in Your hand.
Be gracious, blessed dealer of justice,
Nemesis, winged balancer of life.
Nemesis the deathless Goddess we sing,
Victory with slender wings, all-powerful
infallible, and the assistant to Justice,
You who in displeasure at the pride of men
carry it down into Tartarus.



Old Post 09-24-05 07:09 PM
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hoofprints



Re: Subject: hurricane


Alan wrote:
>
> In article <431AFB3B.D632FFD2@hotmail.com>, equsphotogophr@hotmail.com
> (hoofprints) wrote:
> 
>
> http://www.granma.cu/ingles/2005/se../37reitera.html
>
>  PRESIDENT Fidel Castro last night reiterated Cuba's disposition to help
> Hurricane Katrina victims in spite of the silence of Washington regarding 
Cuba's
> aid offer.

I hope he doesn't feel slighted, cuz Alan Autry the Mayor of Fresno told
Gov. Schenegger that he would accept 400 displaced persons.  they set up
cots, got medical staff to stand by, had hotel rooms set aside,
everything a displaced person could want, and now California is not a
State where the displaced, homeless from LA are heading.
hoof
>
> Fidel met on Sunday evening with 1,586 doctors toting backpacks filled wit
h
> medicine and essential equipment for treating people in emergency conditio
ns
> like those in the region lashed by the hurricane in the neighboring countr
y.
>
> The president said that Cuba had fulfilled its commitment, confirmed by th
e
> rapid constitution of the medical force to aid those affected by Katrina i
n the
> states of Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama.
>
> He noted that because of its proximity to the affected areas, it was possi
ble
> for Cuba to send 1,100 doctors to save people in danger of dying, but the 
number
> of those called up had risen to 1,586.
>
> "Forty-eight hours have passed, and we have not received any response to o
ur
> offer," he noted. "We will wait patiently for as long as it takes," he add
ed.
>
> If no response arrives, or if Cuba's cooperation were not necessary, it wo
uld
> not be any cause for discouragement among our ranks, he added.
>
> "Very much on the contrary, we would be satisfied that we had fulfilled ou
r
> duty, and extremely happy to know that not one more U.S. citizen out of th
ose
> who suffered the painful and treacherous blow of Hurricane Katrina would d
ie
> without medical attention, if that were to be the cause for our doctors'
> absence," he affirmed.
>
> During the meeting, and at the proposal of Fidel, the group of doctors was
 named
> the Henry Reeve Medical Brigade, in honor of a man from the United States 
who
> gave his life during the first Cuban Independence War against the Spanish
> colonial power.
>
> The Cuban president stated that in this kind of situation, it didn't matte
r how
> rich a country might be, or the number of its scientists or technical adva
nces.
> "What is required at this moment is a team of young, well-trained professi
onals
> who, with a minimum of resources, can be sent where human beings are in da
nger
> of dying."
>
> He affirmed that in the case of Cuba, being geographically close to the af
fected
> areas, the circumstances were appropriate for offering aid to the U.S. peo
ple.
>
> He explained that each one of the doctors was equipped with two backpacks 
full
> of medicines and essential equipment for diagnosing and treating many diff
erent
> diseases.
>
> Cuba has more than 130,000 health professionals, he noted, of whom more th
an
> 25,000 are on international missions in Latin America, Asia and Africa.
>
> The medical brigade standing ready to go to the United States includes 1,0
97
> specialists in comprehensive general medicine; 351 general and intensive c
are
> doctors; 72 with specialties in more than one area, and 66 specialists in
> cardiology, pediatrics, surgery, gastroenterology and other areas.
>
> The Cuban medical brigade members have an average of 10 years of professio
nal
> experience and an average age of 32.
>
> Memories of Che, A Revolutionary son of Ireland
> http://irelandsown.net/Che3.html
>
> Iraq Body Count
>
> http://www.iraqbodycount.net/
>
> The Truth Shall Set You Free
>
> http://www.nobeliefs.com/DarkBible/..bleContents.htm
>
> Nemesis - The Divine Goddess of Retribution
>
> http://thanasis.com/modern/nemesis.htm
>
> Alan
>
> http://www.veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk/mylinks.html
>
> Nemesis, winged balancer of life,
> dark-faced Goddess, daughter of Justice,
> You who restrain with adamantine bridles
> the frivolous insolences of mortals,
> and spurning the destructive violence of mankind
> drive out black envy!
> Beneath Your unceasing, traceless orbit
> is spun the grey fortune of man
> and unnoticed You walk in his tracks,
> you bend the neck that is proud.
> Beneath Your arm You ever measure out life
> and ever do You lower Your eye to Your bosom
> as You control the scales in Your hand.
> Be gracious, blessed dealer of justice,
> Nemesis, winged balancer of life.
> Nemesis the deathless Goddess we sing,
> Victory with slender wings, all-powerful
> infallible, and the assistant to Justice,
> You who in displeasure at the pride of men
> carry it down into Tartarus.

--



{ Disclaimer: Non Existent words contained within this poast
were created in response to the Paperwork Reduction Act.}
{If you have a problem with that,
take it to the Environmentalists Complaint Dept.}


A Free Thinker.



Old Post 09-24-05 07:09 PM
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Alan



Re: Subject: hurricane
In article <432301CD.E0B14A93@hotmail.com>, equsphotogophr@hotmail.com
(hoofprints) wrote:

>
>
> Alan wrote: 
>
> I hope he doesn't feel slighted, cuz Alan Autry the Mayor of Fresno told
> Gov. Schenegger that he would accept 400 displaced persons.  they set up
> cots, got medical staff to stand by, had hotel rooms set aside,
> everything a displaced person could want, and now California is not a
> State where the displaced, homeless from LA are heading.
> hoof

Hi Hoof, would you like to read an interesting little story I found that
mentions the Terminator?

The Strap-On Veterans for the Truth About Anne Coulter

http://www.straponvets.com/

How is the earthquake situation, as in, can you feel them yet?

I wish your geologist was still alive. I keep seeing preliminary earthquake
reports, that don't even get reviewed by a seismologist for hours.

Hey, I've got stacks of roses this year. Thanks for the advice on pruning th
em
and I was glad you had a good birthday. You have to watch these little birds
 ;-)

I hope you like the pictures I took. I might try making another page or two 
of
pictures. I really like this new camera.

Take care

Alan

http://www.veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk/mk.html

http://www.veloceraptor.free-online..Peace%20Pagoda/

http://www.veloceraptor.free-online..Sky%20Thinking/

These were with the old camera

http://www.veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk/Beaches/

http://www.veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk/sunrise.html
 
>
> --
>
>
>
> { Disclaimer: Non Existent words contained within this poast
> were created in response to the Paperwork Reduction Act.}
> {If you have a problem with that,
> take it to the Environmentalists Complaint Dept.}
>
>
> A Free Thinker.
>




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