Howdy Dave,

You have asked about Namaste.. To me the important point is the
intention not the words we use. Your HOWDY to me is much better than
NAMASTE. Because it is HONEST..It does not try to make big
meanings..

In other words some times even the word BLASPHEMOUS might mean a
perfectly good feeling..If it was used same as DAVE has done.

With compassion,

Puma

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"puma" <puma@dowse.com> wrote in message
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> Howdy Dave,
>
> You have asked about Namaste.. To me the important point is the
> intention not the words we use. Your HOWDY to me is much better than
> NAMASTE. Because it is HONEST..It does not try to make big
> meanings..
>
> In other words some times even the word BLASPHEMOUS might mean a
> perfectly good feeling..If it was used same as DAVE has done.
>
> With compassion,
>
> Puma

Howdy Puma!

Exactly my point (re: intention)..

Are we talking about a standard social salutation or about spiritual
recognition?

To use a parallel in English salutations, are we talking about :

"Hello" (which is an appropriate salutation to anybody)
or
"He is risen!"/"He is risen indeed!" (which is usually only appropriate
between Christians.)

--
Namaste

Dave ©¿©
"Ego sum quis ego sum quod ut est quicumque ego sum"

http://www.howdydave.com

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I believe Puma is speaking to pretentiousness and puffery.

I think you are speaking about "western" spiritual notions which
separate religion/religiousness from what's termed secular or regular
life. I'm not sure that the Indians historically have had this type of
spiritual schizophrenia. So you comparison may not be valid in cultural
terms.

On the other hand if we look at the term we use when someone sneezes;
"bless you". Clearly the original idea was a religious one. I doubt for
most people hearing this statement when we sneeze will any longer
invoke a remembrance of God as our father. Although in
spiritually/religiously center individual it may still spark this
awareness.

When I write Namaste (I rarely have a reason to say it and I would have
a hard time if I did) it means, "I bow to the divine in you". This
is a acknowledgement/reminder of God's omni presence. I don't use
it except here on alt.yoga because it is essentially a "foreign"
term/idea in the rest of my environment. I have used it a couple of
times while on the phone with tech-support for various computer related
concerns :-) At the time I asked if was an appropriate salutation to
use with someone in India and I was told it was. What I didn't ask is
whether it was equally appropriate to a Jew, Muslim, Hindu, or atheist
in India. But then that was you question. Never mind..:-)

Jared

Namaste

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My dear jared,

Even salutations in this world can be a dividing instrument. As all the
religions are..Therefore BLASPHEMOUS to me is perfectly allright.

I was raised in Islamic notions in my early years..And now I see that
there are very few people in this world,who really know GOD.. And
most of them are the ones who  are called BLASPHEMOUS. Because their
GOD is not a jewish god,is not  a Muslim God and is not a Christian God
either!

But these people really know GOD..And therefore things are in
completely opposite directions. Therefore  some of them are called
Ateist! That means they do not recognise any known religious
GOD..Because almost all the religions except Buddhism,try to
monopolise GOD!

Unless we get rid of our conditioned minds , we will have a very hard
time
to realize this sort of matters..Just look around and see how GODLY
terror is going on on the globe.. They are all believers..But they
are fighting by each other..I never seen any ateist fighting for a
religious reason!

With compassion,

Puma

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Puma,

Couldn't agree with you more :-)

Jared

Lates..

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howdydave wrote:

>
> Can a person bow to the divine element within another person if s/he
> has not first recognized/discovered it within him/herself?
>

good point

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On 13-Aug-2005, howdydave
<howdydave.1tppj1@no-mx.forums.yoga-meditation.org> wrote:

> Howdy!
>
> My whole point was:
>
> Can a person bow to the divine element within another person if s/he
> has not first recognized/discovered it within him/herself?

Yes, they can, but they are missing the best part.

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if they are missing a part, they are missing everything

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