Does anyone know of specific mediation techniques for the purpose of
removing the ego. I am have trouble finding information specific to this.

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Mahasamadhi..
Quite advanced though :-)

Jared
Namaste

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Howdy!

Does one attempt to "remove the ego" or does one just explore the Self until
s/he discovers that the ego is empty?

The second alternative is closer to the way I got there.

IMO: it is a matter of discovery (enlightenment) and not a matter of
modification (self-improvement.)

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> Mahasamadhi..
> Quite advanced though :-)
>
> Jared
> Namaste
>

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Howdy!

BTW:  "Mahasamadhi" (if I understand your use of the term) takes a
'lifetime' to accomplish, doesn't it?  ;->

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> Howdy!
>
> Does one attempt to "remove the ego" or does one just explore the Self
until
> s/he discovers that the ego is empty?
>
> The second alternative is closer to the way I got there.
>
> IMO: it is a matter of discovery (enlightenment) and not a matter of
> modification (self-improvement.)
>
> --
> Dave ©¿©¬
>
> http://www.howdydave.com
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> "omjaram" <omjaroo@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1118636597.386445.257440@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com.. 
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That you call "Ego" is a distorted condition of Self, which is
unrealised with each rebirth. To remove the "Ego" means to remove
the "Self", and it is impossible, as the sense of Self is an
essence of any living being.

In order to correct the distorted condition of Self (Ego), we have to
reverse the power of distortion.

That distortion is formed each time when the human mind is identifying
itself with inherited breathing reflex (each inhale and each exhale)
which results in increase of the body-awareness and NOT Self
awareness..

To reverse or to destroy that distortion is a requirement for the
correct perception of the Universe in order to see your own life
correctly.


With respect,
Narayana
Ref:  http://www.anandamayi.org/om/

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On 2005-06-13 06:07:34 -0700, mazlov@yahoo.com said:

> That you call "Ego" is a distorted condition of Self, which is
> unrealised with each rebirth. To remove the "Ego" means to remove
> the "Self", and it is impossible, as the sense of Self is an
> essence of any living being.
>
> In order to correct the distorted condition of Self (Ego), we have to
> reverse the power of distortion.
>
> That distortion is formed each time when the human mind is identifying
> itself with inherited breathing reflex (each inhale and each exhale)
> which results in increase of the body-awareness and NOT Self
> awareness..
>
> To reverse or to destroy that distortion is a requirement for the
> correct perception of the Universe in order to see your own life
> correctly.
>
>
> With respect,
> Narayana
> Ref:  http://www.anandamayi.org/om/


I agree.  We need ego to function.  Meditation will make for a better
functioning ego.  I imagine if one were to erase their ego completely
they would be catatonic.  It would be the mental version of erasing
one's spine.  Our identity is what allows us to function in the world.

Meditation at its best allows for the identity to subside, and for the
center of Being to prosper.  At a minimum, meditation is an excellent
form of relaxation.

As for what technique is the best meditation technique, I suggest
looking up yoga and meditation in your local yellow pages and looking
for teachers in your area.  Hopefully you will find a spectrum of
teachers, from monks of different backgrounds to secular teachers with
scientific variations of meditation.  Shop around.  See what fits you
the best.

There are also books, tapes and Web sites available.  But you should
start with real human's that can give you personal guidance.
Meditation is a subtle practice, at first it is beneficial to have
guidance.
--
~Stu

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mazlov@yahoo.com Wrote:
> That you call "Ego" is a distorted condition of Self, which is
> unrealised with each rebirth. To remove the "Ego" means to remove
> the "Self", and it is impossible, as the sense of Self is an
> essence of any living being.
>
> In order to correct the distorted condition of Self (Ego), we have to
> reverse the power of distortion.
>
> That distortion is formed each time when the human mind is identifying
> itself with inherited breathing reflex (each inhale and each exhale)
> which results in increase of the body-awareness and NOT Self
> awareness..
>
> To reverse or to destroy that distortion is a requirement for the
> correct perception of the Universe in order to see your own life
> correctly.
>
>
> With respect,
> Narayana
> Ref:  http://www.anandamayi.org/om/

Howdy!

The definition you gave in your first sentence: "Ego is a distorted
condition of Self" contradicts what follows.

In order to get rid of a distorted image (condition)  it is not
necessary to eleminate the original object (your "remove the Self"
reference) whose IMAGE is distorted.
It is only necessary to get rid of the distortion WITHIN THE IMAGE or
get rid of the IMAGE all togeather while the original object (Self)
remains intact.


"POWER of distortion"?
Exactly what do you mean by that?

The only concept that I can think of that comes close to being a
"power" of distortion is life itself.

Maybe you are talking about mahasamadhi too, eh?


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Dave, sorry, no idea that are u talking about.

Stu,
" Hopefully you will find a spectrum of
teachers, from monks of different backgrounds to secular teachers with
scientific variations of meditation.  Shop around.  See what fits you
the best. "
This is good for a beginner, most of the gurus saying the same thing -
"To concentrate.."
N 

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mazlov@yahoo.com wrote:
> That you call "Ego" is a distorted condition of Self, which is
> unrealised with each rebirth. To remove the "Ego" means to remove
> the "Self", and it is impossible, as the sense of Self is an
> essence of any living being.
>
> In order to correct the distorted condition of Self (Ego), we have to
> reverse the power of distortion.
>
> That distortion is formed each time when the human mind is identifying
> itself with inherited breathing reflex (each inhale and each exhale)
> which results in increase of the body-awareness and NOT Self
> awareness..
>
> To reverse or to destroy that distortion is a requirement for the
> correct perception of the Universe in order to see your own life
> correctly.
>
>
> With respect,
> Narayana
> Ref:  http://www.anandamayi.org/om/
>

Excellent info. Thanks.

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David,

The poster's question was general to the point of being meaningless,
yet yogi sounding enough to provoke a discussion (troll?)

My somewhat flippant answer to the poster was "tongue in cheek",
Mahasamadhi being the final conscious withdrawal of the soul from the
body (essentially suicide).

>Does one attempt to "remove the ego" or does one just explore the Self >until[/vbco
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s/he discovers that the ego is empty?

Ego. Now there's a symbolic reference fraught with myriad possible
interpretations. The very notion could (and probably has) take up a
lifetime of consideration.

Until we agreed on what constitutes the "ego" then any discussion
along these lines is going to be a very long one :-)
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>IMO: it is a matter of discovery (enlightenment) and not a matter of >modification 
(self-improvement.)

Not really wanting to get into a long discussion of an idea I see as an
essentially silly one (Fraud.. please!) and assuming we are talking
about something close to the same idea/concept I would say the process
of reconciling the "ego"  is more a function of "acceptance", as we
already "know" the truth of who we are and there is no such thing
as change (eg. time, space, and other fictions).
"Rediscovery/enlightenment is an essential component but what is
required for us to live a "transcendent" life is a willingness to
accept what is. Nothing else required. All the siddhis and such are of
the phenomenal world and can be learned and harnessed like anything
else but they don't mean anything in any transcendent sense and are
not in the least required to live with the "Truth". We don't need
yoga, religion, science, philosophy or anyone or anything's
permission. We need only accept (by degree) what is here and now.

Jared

Namaste

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