"De Roberts" <deroberts2@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> "Tom" <dantoXSPAM@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> But doesn't child molestation cause harm to a child?

Jesus did not say that any harm inflicted on a child was an unforgiveable
sin.  He was specifically referring to leading a child away from following
his teachings.  Look it up.

> Would your Jesus  really be kind to a child molester

No.  But that doesn't mean he was unwilling to forgive them.

Nor is he "my" Jesus.  I'm simply noting what is being narrated in the
bible.  Shez decided to try to justify her desires for revenge and torture
of people she hates by incorrectly quoting the bible.  Ask her about *her*
Jesus, if you like.  He's not the same one written about in the bible.
She's already made it perfectly clear that she doesn't believe the bible.

> or would he treat them the way he treated
> the merchants in the temple?  Lost his patience that time.

They weren't molesting children either.  They were selling crap in the
temple.  Jesus got really mad at anyone who did stuff he didn't like while
they were in the temple.
 
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> At the time he was supposedly speaking he was speaking to the
> Jews, he was supposed to be their savior.

Yes, you managed (probably by luck alone) to get that right.  He considered
himself a revolutionary teacher who was reforming the Jewish faith in order
to save them.  The followers of Christ, those who believed his revolutionary
teachings, were and are called "Christians", even if they were also called
Jews.

> I'm sorry but you do come acrossed as an apologist for pedophiles.

Only if you don't examine my arguments rationally.  To those caught up in
the recent unreasoning hysteria around child sexual abuse, who believe all
sorts of false claims about the unchangeable and monstrous nature of anyone
who commits this crime, any attempt to defuse that unthinking rage and lust
for vengeance will appear to be an "apologist".

My point is that the Final Solution that Shez promotes is wrong-headed.  I
do not and never have condoned any sexual relationship between an adult and
a child.  It is an appalling crime, but the solution is not to commit yet
more appalling crimes.

> You only discuss the criminal and never the victim.

That's correct.  I'm not talking about the effects of child sexual abuse on
the victim.  I'm talking about what action society should take that best
approximates justice and fair play for all, even for those who commit
crimes.

All kinds of crime can result in the harming of a child.  How about someone
who drinks and drives, gets into an accident, and thus harms a child?  Shall
we lock that person away forever because they are unchangeable and
unforgiveable, too?  Just where do we draw the line of unforgiveness and
prediction of complete incorrigibility?  Should every crime that affects a
child result in the torture and death of the one deemed responsible?

Shez's attitude towards this issue of what comprises a just punishment is
extreme, vicious, unreasoning, and grossly unfair.  That's what I'm saying.

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