IS BLAIR A "PALMER METHOD"?

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"Chotii" <chotii@outdamned.oz.net.spam> wrote in message
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> "Todd Gastaldo" <tgastaldo@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> I did indeed refer to the 'activator' method.
>

I assumed correctly then. : )
 
>
> That may be, but a number of local DCs advertise themselves as trained in
> the Palmer method (named for either Palmer college of Chiropractic, or for
> David Daniel Palmer.)

I am pretty sure this is pure Palmer school grad chauvinism - a way for
Palmer alumni to publicly pretend that going to Palmer is superior to going
to other chiro schools - which I think is pure bunk - but I didn't go to
Palmer - so I am biased - LOL.

> My particular DC uses the 'Blair Upper Cervical' technique, utilizing a
> table with drop-away panels.

I am pretty sure that if there *is* such a thing as "Palmer Technique" -
Blair Upper Cervical would likely be considered a "Palmer Technique" - LOL.

William Blair, DC was a student of BJ Palmer, DC and refined BJ's
"Hole-in-One" (HIO) technique - at least that is my recollection.

I took a Blair seminar before graduating chiro college years ago - with Dr.
Charles Smith, Dr. Weldon Muncy and Dr. Dan Kuhn - I mention these names
because your Blair Upper Cervical chiro doctor likely remembers them or
knows of them.

The highlight of that Blair seminar was - at the end - a roomful of chiros
studying the same sets of x-rays - found the same subluxations/listings.  I
may study with a Blair practitioner and practice Blair technique if I ever
go back into spinal adjusting practice.

BTW, Angela..

BJ - whose HIO technique preceded Blair's technique - was the son of
chiropractic's founder, Dr. Daniel David Palmer.

BJ's son - DD's grandson - the late David Daniel Palmer, DC - was the Palmer
College president who resurrected his grandfather's (DD's) ideas after his
dad (BJ) died..

BJ censored DD mercilessly - before and after DD died.

Anyway, Blair Upper Cervical Technique might be considered (by some) to be
part of "the Palmer method."

And BTW, Palmer alumni who promote "the Palmer method" - and who promote
Palmer as the alumni association - were recently disowned by Vicki Palmer
and the Palmer Board of Trustees.

Vicki didn't want the alumni association to so much as deign to ASK to have
a voting seat on the Palmer Board.

Vicki is, I believe, DD's great-granddaughter, BJ's granddaughter, and David
Daniel's daughter.

Chiropractic at Palmer - still in the family after all these years.

> It involves no snap-crackle-pop and specifically no twisting or wrenching
> to the upper spine. More to the point, it doesn't hurt me, and the other
> method (twist-and-jerk) has *always* hurt me. I would not take an infant,
> or even myself, to be treated the latter way.
>

Again, most DCs who adjust babies by hand are quite gentle.  Moms wishing to
take their babies for adjustments should ask the DC if he or she will ask a
mother whose baby is under care if it would be OK to observe.

KEY POINT:  The "worst" DC adjusting of babies with by hand is quite gentle
relative to GRUESOME spinal manipulation by MDs knowingly closing birth
canals up to 30% as they yank with hands, forceps and vacuums.

 
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> The big flaw in this argument, and one Tech 27 could not possibly be
> expected to know, is that my DC adjusts my children for free. He is not
> increasing his income at the expense of my children. He also offers a
> one-time payment option, which is 10% less than if one went once a month
> for a year..with no limits on adjustments allowed during that calendar
> year, for the same price. This doesn't sound to me a like a guy grubbing
> for money, except insofar as yes, he does want us to come in once a month.
>

Things have perhaps changed with Blair Upper Cervical Technique, but my
recollection is that patients are not  adjusted on each visit - unless the
bilateral upper cervical temperature pattern so indicates.

Are Blair practitioners using infrared thermography yet?



Back to Tech 27

I say again..
[vbcol=seagreen] 

MD-obstetrician manipulation of babies' spines - pulling with birth canals
closed up to 30% - sometimes rips spinal nerves out of tiny spinal cords.

Tech 27 is ignoring GRUESOME spinal manipulators (MDs) - and hammering
GENTLE spinal manipulators/adjusters (DCs).

Tech 27 appears to me to be a shill for organized medicine.

Todd

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"Todd Gastaldo" <tgastaldo@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> IS BLAIR A "PALMER METHOD"?

> Things have perhaps changed with Blair Upper Cervical Technique, but my
> recollection is that patients are not  adjusted on each visit - unless the
> bilateral upper cervical temperature pattern so indicates.
>
> Are Blair practitioners using infrared thermography yet?

My DC uses a scanner of some sort, hooked to a computer. He measures
temperatures from the base of the skull to the shoulders (or in the case of
an infant, either side of the skull just under the ears) and looks at a
graph on the computer screen. He also checks biomechanics (checking for leg
shortening with various movements, head turns, etc). He does not always do
an adjustment. He only does one if he feels there's an advantage to doing
one.

I'd been to another DC who uses muscle resistance to determine the same
thing, but *he* does the twist-and-jerk method that hurts me, so I don't go
to him anymore.

--angela

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> My DC uses a scanner of some sort, hooked to a computer. He measures
> temperatures from the base of the skull to the shoulders (or in the case
> of an infant, either side of the skull just under the ears) and looks at a
> graph on the computer screen. He also checks biomechanics (checking for
> leg shortening with various movements, head turns, etc). He does not
> always do an adjustment. He only does one if he feels there's an advantage
> to doing one.
>
> I'd been to another DC who uses muscle resistance to determine the same
> thing, but *he* does the twist-and-jerk method that hurts me, so I don't
> go to him anymore.

Here's the skinny on the above diagnostic tests:

1.  They don't even work in theory.

2.  It would be easy to test them in a controlled setting to determine if
they can reliably aid in the diagnosis of any medical condition.  Positive
results from these tests would be a major medical breakthrough.  It's *so*
unlikely that these tests work as claimed that the claims qualify for prizes
offered by numerous skeptical organizations around the world.

3.  Chiropractors have made no attempt to independently verify the claims
made for these tests.  So, it's a reasonable conclusion that most, if not
most, don't really believe that they work either.

4.  There have been numerous reports that people have received vastly
different diagnoses from visits to different chiropractors using these
tests.  (Sure, visits to different MDs often result in different diagnoses.
But, in this case, it's akin to one doctor telling you that have a broken
arm and another telling you it's your foot that's cracked.)

5.  A test of these claims would be as simple as having several
chiropractors (or anyone, actually) make a medical diagnoses using these
devices and comparing them.  Chiropractors *never* do this.

Don't you wonder how the above could be true if the things really worked as
claimed?

moo

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> "Todd Gastaldo" <tgastaldo@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> My DC uses a scanner of some sort, hooked to a computer. He measures
> temperatures from the base of the skull to the shoulders (or in the case
> of an infant, either side of the skull just under the ears) and looks at a
> graph on the computer screen. He also checks biomechanics (checking for
> leg shortening with various movements, head turns, etc). He does not
> always do an adjustment. He only does one if he feels there's an advantage
> to doing one.
>
> I'd been to another DC who uses muscle resistance to determine the same
> thing, but *he* does the twist-and-jerk method that hurts me, so I don't
> go to him anymore.
>
> --angela

Some guys adjust too roughly.

I am glad you found a chiro you like.

Todd

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"Todd Gastaldo" <tgastaldo@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> IS BLAIR A "PALMER METHOD"?

> Things have perhaps changed with Blair Upper Cervical Technique, but my
> recollection is that patients are not  adjusted on each visit - unless the
> bilateral upper cervical temperature pattern so indicates.
>
> Are Blair practitioners using infrared thermography yet?

My DC uses a scanner of some sort, hooked to a computer. He measures
temperatures from the base of the skull to the shoulders (or in the case of
an infant, either side of the skull just under the ears) and looks at a
graph on the computer screen. He also checks biomechanics (checking for leg
shortening with various movements, head turns, etc). He does not always do
an adjustment. He only does one if he feels there's an advantage to doing
one.

I'd been to another DC who uses muscle resistance to determine the same
thing, but *he* does the twist-and-jerk method that hurts me, so I don't go
to him anymore.

--angela

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> "Todd Gastaldo" <tgastaldo@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>
> My DC uses a scanner of some sort, hooked to a computer. He measures
> temperatures from the base of the skull to the shoulders (or in the case
> of an infant, either side of the skull just under the ears) and looks at a
> graph on the computer screen. He also checks biomechanics (checking for
> leg shortening with various movements, head turns, etc). He does not
> always do an adjustment. He only does one if he feels there's an advantage
> to doing one.
>
> I'd been to another DC who uses muscle resistance to determine the same
> thing, but *he* does the twist-and-jerk method that hurts me, so I don't
> go to him anymore.
>
> --angela

Some guys adjust too roughly.

I am glad you found a chiro you like.

Todd

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> My DC uses a scanner of some sort, hooked to a computer. He measures
> temperatures from the base of the skull to the shoulders (or in the case
> of an infant, either side of the skull just under the ears) and looks at a
> graph on the computer screen. He also checks biomechanics (checking for
> leg shortening with various movements, head turns, etc). He does not
> always do an adjustment. He only does one if he feels there's an advantage
> to doing one.
>
> I'd been to another DC who uses muscle resistance to determine the same
> thing, but *he* does the twist-and-jerk method that hurts me, so I don't
> go to him anymore.

Here's the skinny on the above diagnostic tests:

1.  They don't even work in theory.

2.  It would be easy to test them in a controlled setting to determine if
they can reliably aid in the diagnosis of any medical condition.  Positive
results from these tests would be a major medical breakthrough.  It's *so*
unlikely that these tests work as claimed that the claims qualify for prizes
offered by numerous skeptical organizations around the world.

3.  Chiropractors have made no attempt to independently verify the claims
made for these tests.  So, it's a reasonable conclusion that most, if not
most, don't really believe that they work either.

4.  There have been numerous reports that people have received vastly
different diagnoses from visits to different chiropractors using these
tests.  (Sure, visits to different MDs often result in different diagnoses.
But, in this case, it's akin to one doctor telling you that have a broken
arm and another telling you it's your foot that's cracked.)

5.  A test of these claims would be as simple as having several
chiropractors (or anyone, actually) make a medical diagnoses using these
devices and comparing them.  Chiropractors *never* do this.

Don't you wonder how the above could be true if the things really worked as
claimed?

moo

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"Todd Gastaldo" <tgastaldo@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> IS BLAIR A "PALMER METHOD"?

> Things have perhaps changed with Blair Upper Cervical Technique, but my
> recollection is that patients are not  adjusted on each visit - unless the
> bilateral upper cervical temperature pattern so indicates.
>
> Are Blair practitioners using infrared thermography yet?

My DC uses a scanner of some sort, hooked to a computer. He measures
temperatures from the base of the skull to the shoulders (or in the case of
an infant, either side of the skull just under the ears) and looks at a
graph on the computer screen. He also checks biomechanics (checking for leg
shortening with various movements, head turns, etc). He does not always do
an adjustment. He only does one if he feels there's an advantage to doing
one.

I'd been to another DC who uses muscle resistance to determine the same
thing, but *he* does the twist-and-jerk method that hurts me, so I don't go
to him anymore.

--angela

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