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lallous



Fasting and altered state of consciousness
Hello

I have seen many times that fasting is one of the way to produce an euphoric
/ altered state of consciousness..

They never showed or explained why and how.

Do you have first hand experience / can you refer me to some books and/or
sites?

--
Elias





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tiresias



Re: Fasting and altered state of consciousness
lallous wrote:
> Hello
>
> I have seen many times that fasting is one of the way to produce an euphor
ic
> / altered state of consciousness..
>
> They never showed or explained why and how.
>
> Do you have first hand experience / can you refer me to some books and/or
> sites?
>
> --
> Elias
>
>
T---if you fast well enough you can have the most profound altered state
of consciousness - its technical term is death. Send me a postcard.



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omjaram



Re: Fasting and altered state of consciousness
In article <39dlrmF5r70onU1@individual.net>,
"lallous" <lallous@lgwm.org> wrote:

> Hello
>
> I have seen many times that fasting is one of the way to produce an euphor
ic
> / altered state of consciousness..
>
> They never showed or explained why and how.
>
> Do you have first hand experience / can you refer me to some books and/or
> sites?
>
> --
> Elias

Hi,

One of my favorite subjects :-)   I am currently 7 days out on a fast
and feeling quite good. I have been fasting for 15 years, with
tremendous benefit.

I can't comment on using fasting to produce "altered states" or
"euphoria" as I have never used it for these reasons. I can comment with
some confidence on the spiritual and health promoting aspects of
fasting, with which I am very familiar.

A well managed and responsible fast can result in some spacey feelings;
heightened perceptions and spiritual awareness. It is also well known
that starvation for prolonged periods can cause visual, kinesthetic and
auditory distortions, delusions, and other forms of psychosis.

The book I used to learn and practice fasting is JUICE FASTING, by Paavo
Airola. This short book is also included in his book, ARE YOU CONFUSED.
I recommend either of these books, highly. Over the years I have read
several other fasting books in addition to many articles on the subject
but I still find this book to be the best.

Did you want to learn and practice fasting?

Jared

Namaste



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Re: Fasting and altered state of consciousness
omjaram wrote:

[snip]

> A well managed and responsible fast can result in some spacey feelings;
> heightened perceptions and spiritual awareness.

That depends on what you are calling 'spiritual awareness.'
If you mean sensations of energy or other seemingly
supernatural phenomena, then perhaps such are engendered
by fasting.  But if you mean the experiential awareness
and understanding of the Self, then no.  Fasting will get
you no closer to that realization than licking my dog's XXX.



Old Post 03-19-05 11:09 PM
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lallous



Re: Fasting and altered state of consciousness
Hello Omjaram,


"omjaram" <omjaroo@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4231c5f2$1_1@alt.athenanews.com..
> In article <39dlrmF5r70onU1@individual.net>,
> "lallous" <lallous@lgwm.org> wrote:
> 
>
> Hi,
>
> One of my favorite subjects :-)   I am currently 7 days out on a fast
> and feeling quite good. I have been fasting for 15 years, with
> tremendous benefit.
>


It is also one of my favorite subjects.

Back in 2002, I learned and started practicing fasting.

I've experienced water and juice fasting; my longest fast was two
weeks..one reason that pushed me to break my fast is my busy life.

One can't really fast and lead a busy and somehow stressful life..not to
mention the bad breath odor and that bad feeling in the mouth ;)

> I can't comment on using fasting to produce "altered states" or
> "euphoria" as I have never used it for these reasons. I can comment with
> some confidence on the spiritual and health promoting aspects of
> fasting, with which I am very familiar.
> A well managed and responsible fast can result in some spacey feelings;
> heightened perceptions and spiritual awareness. It is also well known
> that starvation for prolonged periods can cause visual, kinesthetic and
> auditory distortions, delusions, and other forms of psychosis.

But recently I started seeing on some websites that to achieve altered
states and perhaps euphoria, fasting can be a way.that's why I asked her.

>
> The book I used to learn and practice fasting is JUICE FASTING, by Paavo
> Airola. This short book is also included in his book, ARE YOU CONFUSED.
> I recommend either of these books, highly. Over the years I have read
> several other fasting books in addition to many articles on the subject
> but I still find this book to be the best.

I started w/ "Juice Fasting and Detoxification" book

>
> Did you want to learn and practice fasting?


Perhaps we can share experience through direct emails.

--
Elias





Old Post 03-19-05 11:09 PM
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omjaram



Re: Fasting and altered state of consciousness
Hi,

I personally do not equate "spiritual awareness" with any physical
or psychic phenomenon or perception. I see these as expressions of the
material (manifest) universe, of which, spirit is transcendent.

Thank you for pointing up that I phrased my comment as a statement
which might be construed to apply to others, rather then to me
specifically. Let me rephrase:

"While undertaking a well managed and responsible fast I have
experienced some spacey feelings; heightened perceptions and spiritual
awareness."

Concerning the trick with the dog I will defer to you, as I have never
tried that.

Namaste




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