There once was this man named Eric. He was a normal guy with no history of
mental illness whatsoever until he took prednisone and had a steroid psychos
is
at age 28. He went to see a psychiatrist he knew nothing about, picked the
shrink out of the yellow pages. After three months without any real sleep an
d
being severely depressed and totally demented, he saw his Pdoc's female soci
al
worker for the first time. By this time Eric was a physical and mental wreck
,
had been neglected in his condition by his doctors and his family, had lost 
a
huge amount of weight, had dark rings under his eyes, couldnt sleep, couldnt
get an erection and could barely move or walk out of his house.

He tells the social worker "wow you have no idea what Ive been thru in the p
ast
three months. Ive been sick as a dog and I cant sleep and Ive lost all this
weight without trying. I have no appetite anymore. I have no sex drive anymo
re
and I cant even get an erection anymore. I try to jack off and I have dry
ejaculations..its really weird. Pamela Anderson could walk by me nude in
spiked heels and a black thong and I wouldnt even be able to get it up. I ca
nt
even get turned on anymore. I cant do my job because I cant concentrate or
remember anything and Im really confused all the time.

Oh, I also cry a lot for no reason and feel real guilty and hopeless and
"numb." I cant feel any emotion anymore. Im real irritable but feel sad and
hopeless at the same time. And I feel suicidal a lot but I also think about
killing people." Then, Eric rolled his eyes around in his head and gave a Ja
ck
Nicholson grin and gave a sick, psycho laugh..hehehe.

The female social worker sat there and gripped the armchair of her chair rea
l
tight and asked Eric "are you having any hallucinations or delusions?" And E
ric
looked at her and calmly, matter of factly said "how the hell would I know?"

So the next day, Eric saw his psychiatrist for an "emergency" meeting and wa
s
put on a psycho drug for crazy lunatics called risperdal. Jason and Freddie
should have been on risperdal..it might have helped them a lot. But all it 
did
for Eric was give him this hellacious headache and cause his muscles to tigh
ten
up and pop and twitch. It made his tongue really numb and tight feeling. He
still couldnt sleep at all. His cognition improved only mildly. His appetite
and mood didnt improve. He still couldnt concentrate good.

So the antidepressant Remeron was added to the half a mg of risperdal and
things got even worse. Eric experienced a brief near total remission of his
depression from the Remeron that lasted a few days, then the muscle tighteni
ng
took over again and worsened. It got worse and worse and worse every single
day. It got so bad Eric would lay in his bed and grit his teeth and cry and
scream in physical agony. He would almost crack his teeth from biting down s
o
hard the pain was so bad. Once he had to pull his car over on the side of th
e
road because of the risperdal induced muscle tightness on the back of his he
ad
and neck. Painkillers didnt relieve it.

Finally, the risperdal achieved its effect and Eric was left a demented, bra
in
burned out zombie. He was left with terrible EPS symptoms on the back of his
head and neck after he went off the risperdal after two months. Nobody cared
 to
investigate what had happened to Eric and his psychiatrist didnt or wouldnt
recognize he had experienced two months of risperdal induced EPS and acute
dystonia.

Later, Eric was formally diagnosed with testosterone deficiency by an
endocrinologist and mild tardive dystonia by a movement disorders specialist
.
No wonder I couldnt get it up good and was so irritable.

So, maybe you can dress up like Eric on risperdal for Halloween and scare th
e
shit out of all the kids in your neighborhood. Or if youre really sick and
twisted and want to give them a lifetime trauma..dress up as a psychiatrist
and carry a box of risperdal around in your hand and say to the kiddies "wan
t
some candy little girl?"

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! <Evil Laugh>

Happy Halloween and make sure you visit a psychiatrist!!

Eric

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Okay, first thing I gotta say is I take back everything I said about
Remeron. It saved your life, it was the only thing that worked - and it
/worked/.

But hell.. you gotta sue those guys asses for malpractise - why were
you left on prednisone with no supervision, why were you not diagnosed
within a day or two with obvious symptoms of tardive dystonia from the
risperdal.

You could get thousands, man, from suing those guys - just get a good
lawyer-  and if you're on SSI, you have access to them for free.. you
could get all the money you need to get the treatment you need..
physiotherapy, painkillers, you name it.

Plus, you'd see the satisfaction of them getting struck off .

And i'm sorry about what you went through.

Get the satisfaction of a really evil, lawsuit ending to your story 

-Carya

LostBoyinNC wrote:
> There once was this man named Eric. He was a normal guy with no history of
> mental illness whatsoever until he took prednisone and had a steroid psych
osis
> at age 28. He went to see a psychiatrist he knew nothing about, picked the
> shrink out of the yellow pages. After three months without any real sleep 
and
> being severely depressed and totally demented, he saw his Pdoc's female so
cial
> worker for the first time. By this time Eric was a physical and mental wre
ck,
> had been neglected in his condition by his doctors and his family, had los
t a
> huge amount of weight, had dark rings under his eyes, couldnt sleep, could
nt
> get an erection and could barely move or walk out of his house.
>
> He tells the social worker "wow you have no idea what Ive been thru in the
 past
> three months. Ive been sick as a dog and I cant sleep and Ive lost all thi
s
> weight without trying. I have no appetite anymore. I have no sex drive any
more
> and I cant even get an erection anymore. I try to jack off and I have dry
> ejaculations..its really weird. Pamela Anderson could walk by me nude in
> spiked heels and a black thong and I wouldnt even be able to get it up. I 
cant
> even get turned on anymore. I cant do my job because I cant concentrate or
> remember anything and Im really confused all the time.
>
> Oh, I also cry a lot for no reason and feel real guilty and hopeless and
> "numb." I cant feel any emotion anymore. Im real irritable but feel sad an
d
> hopeless at the same time. And I feel suicidal a lot but I also think abou
t
> killing people." Then, Eric rolled his eyes around in his head and gave a 
Jack
> Nicholson grin and gave a sick, psycho laugh..hehehe.
>
> The female social worker sat there and gripped the armchair of her chair r
eal
> tight and asked Eric "are you having any hallucinations or delusions?" And
 Eric
> looked at her and calmly, matter of factly said "how the hell would I know
?"
>
> So the next day, Eric saw his psychiatrist for an "emergency" meeting and 
was
> put on a psycho drug for crazy lunatics called risperdal. Jason and Freddi
e
> should have been on risperdal..it might have helped them a lot. But all i
t did
> for Eric was give him this hellacious headache and cause his muscles to ti
ghten
> up and pop and twitch. It made his tongue really numb and tight feeling. H
e
> still couldnt sleep at all. His cognition improved only mildly. His appeti
te
> and mood didnt improve. He still couldnt concentrate good.
>
> So the antidepressant Remeron was added to the half a mg of risperdal and
> things got even worse. Eric experienced a brief near total remission of hi
s
> depression from the Remeron that lasted a few days, then the muscle tighte
ning
> took over again and worsened. It got worse and worse and worse every singl
e
> day. It got so bad Eric would lay in his bed and grit his teeth and cry an
d
> scream in physical agony. He would almost crack his teeth from biting down
 so
> hard the pain was so bad. Once he had to pull his car over on the side of 
the
> road because of the risperdal induced muscle tightness on the back of his 
head
> and neck. Painkillers didnt relieve it.
>
> Finally, the risperdal achieved its effect and Eric was left a demented, b
rain
> burned out zombie. He was left with terrible EPS symptoms on the back of h
is
> head and neck after he went off the risperdal after two months. Nobody car
ed to
> investigate what had happened to Eric and his psychiatrist didnt or wouldn
t
> recognize he had experienced two months of risperdal induced EPS and acute
> dystonia.
>
> Later, Eric was formally diagnosed with testosterone deficiency by an
> endocrinologist and mild tardive dystonia by a movement disorders speciali
st.
> No wonder I couldnt get it up good and was so irritable.
>
> So, maybe you can dress up like Eric on risperdal for Halloween and scare 
the
> shit out of all the kids in your neighborhood. Or if youre really sick and
> twisted and want to give them a lifetime trauma..dress up as a psychiatri
st
> and carry a box of risperdal around in your hand and say to the kiddies "w
ant
> some candy little girl?"
>
> BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! <Evil Laugh>
>
> Happy Halloween and make sure you visit a psychiatrist!!
>
> Eric
>

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>Subject: Re: A really scary Halloween story
>From: Carya Amara Bitter@nuts.com
>Date: 10/28/2004 6:31 PM Eastern Standard Time
>Message-id: <2udaavF28gdleU1@uni-berlin.de>
>
>Okay, first thing I gotta say is I take back everything I said about
>Remeron. It saved your life, it was the only thing that worked - and it
>/worked/.

it sure did, without it I might be dead. It fixed my insomnia problems
immediately. And fixing that insomnia really REALLY helped me!

>
>But hell.. you gotta sue those guys asses for malpractise - why were
>you left on prednisone with no supervision,

no I was being supervised on the prednisone and that was BEFORE I had any
psychiatric problems. The prednisone thing was just pure bad luck..some
unlucky people just have bad psychiatric reactions to corticosteroids. I don
t
blame the doctor who prescribed me the prednisone..weird as that may sound
.


why were you not diagnosed
>within a day or two with obvious symptoms of tardive dystonia from the
>risperdal.

Because the EPS symptoms were of an acute dystonia nature and were not
observable to the naked eye. I wasnt twisting into weird shapes like in seve
re
dystonia or having tardive dyskinisia. I complained about it, but didnt have
 a
clue what was going on with me and my psychiatrist I dont think he had a clu
e
about anything looking back on it.

He was just adamant I remain on half mg of risperdal and later admitted to
rxing it for behavioral control reasons. He was just using it as a "chemical
straitjacket" or off label usage for perceived potential aggressiveness. Whi
ch
was a crock because I was about as aggressive as a mouse at that time.

>
>You could get thousands, man, from suing those guys - just get a good
>lawyer-  and if you're on SSI, you have access to them for free.. you
>could get all the money you need to get the treatment you need..
>physiotherapy, painkillers, you name it.

Nope..wont happen. The statute of limitations has run out, plus Im in the
ultra conservative state of North Carolina where winning medical malpractice
lawsuits is practically unheard of. The doctors have a really good lobby in
this state. The laws are on THEIR side here. No financial reward for me, I j
ust
plain got XXXXed over and was left hanging. One attorney I contacted about
suing that doctor even used the term "being left hanging" in describing how 
I
was treated.

>
>Plus, you'd see the satisfaction of them getting struck off .

Id like that, but it wont ever happen (:

>
>And i'm sorry about what you went through.

Me too..it was pure misery and hell. I was super duper clinically depressed
 to
begin with, went asking for help and the "treatment" I received literally ma
de
me worse.

>
>Get the satisfaction of a really evil, lawsuit ending to your story 

If I knew the things I know now five or six years ago..maybe even four year
s
ago..that would have been a possibility. But because of the time frame and 
all
and where I live combined, it will never happen.

Its just the sort of thing that happens to people afflicted with severe ment
al
illnesses all the time..they are XXXXed over left and right by the very sys
tem
thats supposed to help them.

One attorney I talked to told me "there are a lot of complaints about
psychiatry."

No shit.


Eric

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LostBoyinNC wrote:
> There once was this man named Eric. He was a normal guy with no
> history of mental illness whatsoever until he took prednisone and had
> a steroid psychosis at age 28.

Is that prednisolone? I was given it when my asthma was very bad.

> Later, Eric was formally diagnosed with testosterone deficiency by an
> endocrinologist and mild tardive dystonia by a movement disorders
> specialist.

So. was this just recently? and are your symptoms a lot better since
presumably having some kind of hormone booster drugs?

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Dammit. I was writing a reply to this and my entire machine crashed..
sorry.. 

anyhow..
 
>
>
> it sure did, without it I might be dead. It fixed my insomnia problems
> immediately. And fixing that insomnia really REALLY helped me!

hell yeah. having gone without sleep for a week once - well, insomnia
can kill.. kinda literally.. :/..
>
> 
>
>
> no I was being supervised on the prednisone and that was BEFORE I had any
> psychiatric problems. The prednisone thing was just pure bad luck..some
> unlucky people just have bad psychiatric reactions to corticosteroids. I d
ont
> blame the doctor who prescribed me the prednisone..weird as that may sound.[/vbc
ol]

yeah.. i can understand. I was almost prescribed it for a kidney
infection and was warned just in time not to take it by someone who'd
experienced its side effects before. I said Okay to the doc, and lied
and said I'll take it in the morning, took the script and didnt get the
pills.. I was lucky. Actually its a pretty evil med.. I havent met one
person who hasnt had an adverse reaction to it, although of those people
I've known people who needed it. Likewise I've had anaphylactic shock to
antibiotics, but the small amount I took of them was enough to kill off
a very serious infection (same kidney infection).

but that was a really bad paradoxical reaction.. and the doc /should/
have known.. if it was that bad.. not just the paradoxical but the
physical reactions, he's a physician.. anyhow its the risperdal stuff
that they really are to blame for, those XXXXing psychiatrists should
rot in hell..
[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> why were you not diagnosed
> 
>
>
> Because the EPS symptoms were of an acute dystonia nature and were not
> observable to the naked eye. I wasnt twisting into weird shapes like in se
vere
> dystonia or having tardive dyskinisia. I complained about it, but didnt ha
ve a
> clue what was going on with me and my psychiatrist I dont think he had a c
lue
> about anything looking back on it.

Sounds like it.. it's obvious, its TD as in Dystonia.. but any shrink
should know what that looks like.. in any case its a paradoxical
reaction too.. you didnt come in like that!! God, they love to
straightjacket you, just like they said (although I'm loath to invoke
the name of the Almighty after the last thread hehehehee ;P ;)
>
> He was just adamant I remain on half mg of risperdal and later admitted to
> rxing it for behavioral control reasons. He was just using it as a "chemic
al
> straitjacket" or off label usage for perceived potential aggressiveness. W
hich
> was a crock because I was about as aggressive as a mouse at that time.

absolutely.. how could you possibly be agressive when your entire body
was paralysed?...
>
> 
>
>
> Nope..wont happen. The statute of limitations has run out, plus Im in the
> ultra conservative state of North Carolina where winning medical malpracti
ce
> lawsuits is practically unheard of. The doctors have a really good lobby i
n
> this state. The laws are on THEIR side here. No financial reward for me, I
 just
> plain got XXXXed over and was left hanging. One attorney I contacted about
> suing that doctor even used the term "being left hanging" in describing ho
w I
> was treated.

geez.. I wish you were in somewhere like New York or California or
something.. where they're shit scared of doing anything wrong in case
of lawsuits and being struck off.. I guess you've done all the stuff
like contacting NAMI and all that too.. I know you know your stuff when
it comes to patient rights, as well as medication.. whatever happened
in North Carolina's medical system when it came to American freedom and
the rights of the people..

They rely on you being so ill that you can't have the energy to fight it
too.. bastards.. thats where you need NAMI and those sorts of groups
(plus they scare the XXXX out of the doctors)..

>
> 
>
>
> Id like that, but it wont ever happen (:
>
> 
>
>
> Me too..it was pure misery and hell. I was super duper clinically depress
ed to
> begin with, went asking for help and the "treatment" I received literally 
made
> me worse.

yeah.. and now you have to live with it.. those motherXXXXers should
PAY.. and be made to pay, so that you can get the painkillers, the
muscle relaxants, whatever it is to reverse the T-Dystonia..

by the way i hear you're doing much better on new meds..
is there anything at all that can help the dystonias..?..

>
> 
>
>
> If I knew the things I know now five or six years ago..maybe even four ye
ars
> ago..that would have been a possibility. But because of the time frame an
d all
> and where I live combined, it will never happen.
>
> Its just the sort of thing that happens to people afflicted with severe me
ntal
> illnesses all the time..they are XXXXed over left and right by the very s
ystem
> thats supposed to help them.

yeah.. and thats the only way we learn about it and learn to play the
game. After the event.. after the damage has already been done :/..

yeah.. i've had my share of it - hence the nickname, Carya Amara means
Bitter Nut.. (no link to the musician of the same name).. nothing ever
like what you went through, but I've had several hyponatraemias, a few
akathisias, and nobody gave a shit.. Oh and my dx was never recorded
on any of my patient records!!!!

I got XXXXed over and then learnt to play the game. my last two shrinks
i got to the point of being shit scared of me. Well, one of them tried
to kill me about 4 times. I pointed this out to him in detail and then
dictated the prescription i wanted to him ;). It was fun.. but I
shouldnt have to do that.

And nobody should ever go through what you did - two days of obvious TD,
and incompetent pdocs cant even see it. no wonder so many people have
TD.. its rare to have such excruiciating dystonias though. thats where
i just think its so XXXXing unfair that you can't sue and get the money
you're owed.

>
> One attorney I talked to told me "there are a lot of complaints about
> psychiatry."
>
> No shit.

hell yeah.

-Carya

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Carya Amara <Bitter@nuts.com> wrote:


> CA: geez.. I wish you were in somewhere like New York or California or
> something.. where they're shit scared of doing anything wrong in case
> of lawsuits and being struck off

Not quite scared enough.  Not saying that it's not better here,
but the Universal Risperdal Decree seems to be in effect on
some wards.

 

I dream about that too..
[vbcol=seagreen] 
[vbcol=seagreen]
> C: yeah.. i've had my share of it - hence the nickname, Carya Amara
> Bitter Nut.. (no link to the musician of the same name).. nothing ever
> like what you went through, but I've had several hyponatraemias, a few
> akathisias, and nobody gave a shit.. Oh and my dx was never recorded
> on any of my patient records!!!!


> I got XXXXed over and then learnt to play the game. my last two shrinks
> i got to the point of being shit scared of me. Well, one of them tried
> to kill me about 4 times. I pointed this out to him in detail and then
> dictated the prescription i wanted to him ;). It was fun.. but I
> shouldnt have to do that.

How did you do that? (Scare him/her into prescribing the right Rx?)
[vbcol=seagreen] 

Oh yes.

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Okay, first thing I gotta say is I take back everything I said about
Remeron. It saved your life, it was the only thing that worked - and it
/worked/.

But hell.. you gotta sue those guys asses for malpractise - why were
you left on prednisone with no supervision, why were you not diagnosed
within a day or two with obvious symptoms of tardive dystonia from the
risperdal.

You could get thousands, man, from suing those guys - just get a good
lawyer-  and if you're on SSI, you have access to them for free.. you
could get all the money you need to get the treatment you need..
physiotherapy, painkillers, you name it.

Plus, you'd see the satisfaction of them getting struck off .

And i'm sorry about what you went through.

Get the satisfaction of a really evil, lawsuit ending to your story 

-Carya

LostBoyinNC wrote:
> There once was this man named Eric. He was a normal guy with no history of
> mental illness whatsoever until he took prednisone and had a steroid psych
osis
> at age 28. He went to see a psychiatrist he knew nothing about, picked the
> shrink out of the yellow pages. After three months without any real sleep 
and
> being severely depressed and totally demented, he saw his Pdoc's female so
cial
> worker for the first time. By this time Eric was a physical and mental wre
ck,
> had been neglected in his condition by his doctors and his family, had los
t a
> huge amount of weight, had dark rings under his eyes, couldnt sleep, could
nt
> get an erection and could barely move or walk out of his house.
>
> He tells the social worker "wow you have no idea what Ive been thru in the
 past
> three months. Ive been sick as a dog and I cant sleep and Ive lost all thi
s
> weight without trying. I have no appetite anymore. I have no sex drive any
more
> and I cant even get an erection anymore. I try to jack off and I have dry
> ejaculations..its really weird. Pamela Anderson could walk by me nude in
> spiked heels and a black thong and I wouldnt even be able to get it up. I 
cant
> even get turned on anymore. I cant do my job because I cant concentrate or
> remember anything and Im really confused all the time.
>
> Oh, I also cry a lot for no reason and feel real guilty and hopeless and
> "numb." I cant feel any emotion anymore. Im real irritable but feel sad an
d
> hopeless at the same time. And I feel suicidal a lot but I also think abou
t
> killing people." Then, Eric rolled his eyes around in his head and gave a 
Jack
> Nicholson grin and gave a sick, psycho laugh..hehehe.
>
> The female social worker sat there and gripped the armchair of her chair r
eal
> tight and asked Eric "are you having any hallucinations or delusions?" And
 Eric
> looked at her and calmly, matter of factly said "how the hell would I know
?"
>
> So the next day, Eric saw his psychiatrist for an "emergency" meeting and 
was
> put on a psycho drug for crazy lunatics called risperdal. Jason and Freddi
e
> should have been on risperdal..it might have helped them a lot. But all i
t did
> for Eric was give him this hellacious headache and cause his muscles to ti
ghten
> up and pop and twitch. It made his tongue really numb and tight feeling. H
e
> still couldnt sleep at all. His cognition improved only mildly. His appeti
te
> and mood didnt improve. He still couldnt concentrate good.
>
> So the antidepressant Remeron was added to the half a mg of risperdal and
> things got even worse. Eric experienced a brief near total remission of hi
s
> depression from the Remeron that lasted a few days, then the muscle tighte
ning
> took over again and worsened. It got worse and worse and worse every singl
e
> day. It got so bad Eric would lay in his bed and grit his teeth and cry an
d
> scream in physical agony. He would almost crack his teeth from biting down
 so
> hard the pain was so bad. Once he had to pull his car over on the side of 
the
> road because of the risperdal induced muscle tightness on the back of his 
head
> and neck. Painkillers didnt relieve it.
>
> Finally, the risperdal achieved its effect and Eric was left a demented, b
rain
> burned out zombie. He was left with terrible EPS symptoms on the back of h
is
> head and neck after he went off the risperdal after two months. Nobody car
ed to
> investigate what had happened to Eric and his psychiatrist didnt or wouldn
t
> recognize he had experienced two months of risperdal induced EPS and acute
> dystonia.
>
> Later, Eric was formally diagnosed with testosterone deficiency by an
> endocrinologist and mild tardive dystonia by a movement disorders speciali
st.
> No wonder I couldnt get it up good and was so irritable.
>
> So, maybe you can dress up like Eric on risperdal for Halloween and scare 
the
> shit out of all the kids in your neighborhood. Or if youre really sick and
> twisted and want to give them a lifetime trauma..dress up as a psychiatri
st
> and carry a box of risperdal around in your hand and say to the kiddies "w
ant
> some candy little girl?"
>
> BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! <Evil Laugh>
>
> Happy Halloween and make sure you visit a psychiatrist!!
>
> Eric
>

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