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clarissa



oxycontin or codiene contin
Hi I am new to this group.  I take codiene contin for daily
headaches/migraines and wonder what is the difference between cod contin and
oxycontin - does anyone know?  I would be interested because there seems to
be such a worry about addiction over oxycontin and yet I am not at all
addicited to what I am taking, although I am somewhat physically dependent
on it.  I would have to withdraw slowly from it but am not psychologically
attached to it, I use it only for pain.  Thanks for hearing me out.
Blessings   Jean





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Re: oxycontin or codiene contin
Hi Jean,

The difference I would assume is the active ingredient..codeine is in Codei
ne
Contin and morphine is in MS Contin.  I'm not familiar with Codeine Contin, 
so
I can't say more than this on the difference.

The difference in someone psychologically addicted and physically addicted i
s
the reason the medication is taken.  If someone is taking it for pain, they 
do
not become addicted..they are dependant on it, which is not a bad
thing..think of it this way..a Diabetic is dependant on Insulin or oral m
eds
so they can lead a normal life.  On the other hand, when you have someone wh
o
uses the drugs for recreational purposes, they are psychologically
addicted..they can't be without their drugs or they feel sick, shaky, etc.,
etc., etc.  They will do anything to get their drug of choice.

I hope this makes sense to you and I have been able to help.

Robin

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>Hi I am new to this group.  I take codiene contin for daily
>headaches/migraines and wonder what is the difference between cod contin an
d
>oxycontin - does anyone know?  I would be interested because there seems to
>be such a worry about addiction over oxycontin and yet I am not at all
>addicited to what I am taking, although I am somewhat physically dependent
>on it.  I would have to withdraw slowly from it but am not psychologically
>attached to it, I use it only for pain.  Thanks for hearing me out.
>Blessings   Jean




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Re: oxycontin or codiene contin
if your well enough to worry about addicition i don't think you would need
that heavy a med.. imho..

"clarissa" <clarissa@telus.net> wrote in message
news:13bcd.9049$cr4.2025@edtnps84..
> Hi I am new to this group.  I take codiene contin for daily
> headaches/migraines and wonder what is the difference between cod contin
and
> oxycontin - does anyone know?  I would be interested because there seems
to
> be such a worry about addiction over oxycontin and yet I am not at all
> addicited to what I am taking, although I am somewhat physically dependent
> on it.  I would have to withdraw slowly from it but am not psychologically
> attached to it, I use it only for pain.  Thanks for hearing me out.
> Blessings   Jean
>
>





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Re: oxycontin or codiene contin
On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 15:24:45 GMT, "clarissa" <clarissa@telus.net>
wrote something wonderfully witty:

>Hi I am new to this group.  I take codiene contin for daily
>headaches/migraines and wonder what is the difference between cod contin an
d
>oxycontin - does anyone know?  I would be interested because there seems to
>be such a worry about addiction over oxycontin and yet I am not at all
>addicited to what I am taking, although I am somewhat physically dependent
>on it.  I would have to withdraw slowly from it but am not psychologically
>attached to it, I use it only for pain.  Thanks for hearing me out.
>Blessings   Jean
>
Basically the major difference is the active ingredients.  The Oxy
being stronger then the Codeine.  Some people can take one effectively
and not the other.  For me personally, Codeine gives me a headache.
Do it isn't a very effective pain reliever for anything since it
causes such a wicked headache.  I've also heard of people being
allergic to Codeine.
--

You can run, but you'll only die tired.

ZombyWoof



Old Post 10-17-04 12:09 AM
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~NortH~



Re: oxycontin or codiene contin

"ZombyWoof" <Zomby-Woof@Zappa.net> wrote in message
news:rus2n01017c8h01hs5i979bvmht2ag32m4@4ax.com..
> On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 15:24:45 GMT, "clarissa" <clarissa@telus.net>
> wrote something wonderfully witty:
> 
> Basically the major difference is the active ingredients.  The Oxy
> being stronger then the Codeine.  Some people can take one effectively
> and not the other.  For me personally, Codeine gives me a headache.
> Do it isn't a very effective pain reliever for anything since it
> causes such a wicked headache.  I've also heard of people being
> allergic to Codeine.

they started me, wat back when, on percs then on to something stronger,
forget now but was in the same family.. codeine/codone and i found taking
them made me horribly itchy.. i mean i would scratch and break the sking it
itched that bad.. my doctor said some people react that way. it is a mild
allergy to it.. so he then started me in the morphine/morphone based family
of drugs.. it is a little better, still get a little itchy, but then again
the strength since i started has risen tremedously.

~NortH~

> --
>
> You can run, but you'll only die tired.
>
> ZombyWoof





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Joe_Z



Re: oxycontin or codiene contin
weird, i took codeine for close to 20 years off and on with no noticable
headache, different system chem i guess, it did upset my stomach now and
then, it finally started losing it's effect a few years ago..

i've never (knock on wood) had an issue with headaches in my life, the few
bad ones i had put me down completely.. my youth hangovers just made me
numb and drag, i did have a few bangers though..

if the pains something you can not get away from go for different relief
imho, best luck though..

"ZombyWoof" <Zomby-Woof@Zappa.net> wrote in message
news:rus2n01017c8h01hs5i979bvmht2ag32m4@4ax.com..
> On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 15:24:45 GMT, "clarissa" <clarissa@telus.net>
> wrote something wonderfully witty:
> 
and[vbcol=seagreen] 
to[vbcol=seagreen] 
dependent[vbcol=seagreen] 
psychologically[vbcol=seagreen] 
> Basically the major difference is the active ingredients.  The Oxy
> being stronger then the Codeine.  Some people can take one effectively
> and not the other.  For me personally, Codeine gives me a headache.
> Do it isn't a very effective pain reliever for anything since it
> causes such a wicked headache.  I've also heard of people being
> allergic to Codeine.
> --
>
> You can run, but you'll only die tired.
>
> ZombyWoof





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ZombyWoof



Re: oxycontin or codiene contin
On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 17:34:42 -0400, "Joe_Z" <yaya@naha.org> wrote
something wonderfully witty:

>weird, i took codeine for close to 20 years off and on with no noticable
>headache, different system chem i guess, it did upset my stomach now and
>then, it finally started losing it's effect a few years ago..
>
>i've never (knock on wood) had an issue with headaches in my life, the few
>bad ones i had put me down completely.. my youth hangovers just made me
>numb and drag, i did have a few bangers though..
>
As with most pain issues it is real hard to related to another's pain
issues without having experienced them first hand.  Many researchers
feel that women have a higher tolerance to pain then men, yet will
search out for relief of it more often.  Imagine the worse headache
you've ever had, square it and then deal with it everyday.  That is
how some migraine patients go through daily life.

>if the pains something you can not get away from go for different relief
>imho, best luck though..
>
>"ZombyWoof" <Zomby-Woof@Zappa.net> wrote in message
>news:rus2n01017c8h01hs5i979bvmht2ag32m4@4ax.com.. 
>and 
>to 
>dependent 
>psychologically 
>

--

You can run, but you'll only die tired.

ZombyWoof



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NW Blue Penguin



Re: oxycontin or codiene contin
>Subject: Re: oxycontin or codiene contin
>From: "Joe_Z" yaya@naha.org
>Date: 10/16/2004 9:51 AM Pacific


Not necessarily...when first hit with this "suicidal level" of chronic pai
n,
I was very concerned about addiction.  It was my doctor who put those worrie
s
to rest for me and that took some time.

I was completely naive about taking opiates long term, other than cancer
patients.  I had no idea how safe it was for me to be taking such large dose
s
of opiates...especially since I would be taking them for the rest of my li
fe.
Unless of course medical research finds a solution for me.



>if your well enough to worry about addicition i don't think you would need
>that heavy a med.. imho..
>



"The family is the nucleus of civilization"
-Ariel and Will Durant



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Re: oxycontin or codiene contin
codeine-contin is metabolized in the liver to morphine or norcodeine.
Codeine controlled relase is absorbed to an equivalent extent as
immediate-release tablet , in single  dose studies in fasting, healthy
volunteers, the maximum plasma codeine concenttration is approximately 56%
of that from immediate-release formulations and is achieeved approximately
2.6 times later-at 3.3 post-dosing., and should be given with caution  other
opiod analgesics, phenothiazines, or other tranquoizers, sedative=hypnotics,
triculic anti depress.,a dn other cns depressants(including alcohol)
Rspiratory depression, hypotension and profound sedation or coma may result.
as with other opiates, constipation, alcohol, and if you have a condition
like asthma, it slowly your breathing. i am not a dr. and got this info.
from a cps(the book the dr.s use, and noticed it's faster onset, where it
says it's absorbed as quickly as immediate release. you may want to check
that out for accuracy with your dr. or pharmacy.
pinkrainbow

"clarissa" <clarissa@telus.net> wrote in message
news:13bcd.9049$cr4.2025@edtnps84..
> Hi I am new to this group.  I take codiene contin for daily
> headaches/migraines and wonder what is the difference between cod contin
> and
> oxycontin - does anyone know?  I would be interested because there seems
> to
> be such a worry about addiction over oxycontin and yet I am not at all
> addicited to what I am taking, although I am somewhat physically dependent
> on it.  I would have to withdraw slowly from it but am not psychologically
> attached to it, I use it only for pain.  Thanks for hearing me out.
> Blessings   Jean
>
>


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Re: oxycontin or codiene contin
i would question that Joe(no offence intended), even if your in suicidal
pain as penquin says, she questioned the use of opiates(as until the last
decade it was only prescribed for cancer patients).
pinkrainbow
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> if your well enough to worry about addicition i don't think you would need
> that heavy a med.. imho..
>
> "clarissa" <clarissa@telus.net> wrote in message
> news:13bcd.9049$cr4.2025@edtnps84.. 
> and 
> to 
>
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