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Time for a auto kill switch!
It's about time auto makers installed a "kill switch" that
would allow police officers to disrupt the ignition of
a suspect's vehicle .. instead of chasing the suspect
along interstate highways and through congested cities,
placing everyone at risk for serious injury or death.

The technology is there .. why not do it?

In this particular chase that began near my home, the
police officer ended up hitting a Toyota in Washington, DC
and the two, innocent occupants ended up in critical condition.

The suspect, as usual, got away.

----------------------------------------------------
Police from two jurisdictions are still investigating a police chase
that started in Montgomery County and ended in a crash in Northwest
DC.

http://www.wusatv9.com/news/news_ar..x?storyid=33890
<http://www.wusatv9.com/news/news_ar..x?storyid=33890>
----------------------------------------------------

(KM)



Old Post 10-10-04 07:11 AM
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Ry-On



Re: Time for a auto kill switch!

What would you expect? Put a dummy in a uniform,
give him a driver's license and they kill innocent people.

Better than a kill switch would be to hire educated people
to be police men. But then, educated people wouldn't want
a job compared to a garbologists.






On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 18:44:27 -0400, poboxdc@ix.netcom.com wrote:

>It's about time auto makers installed a "kill switch" that
>would allow police officers to disrupt the ignition of
>a suspect's vehicle .. instead of chasing the suspect
>along interstate highways and through congested cities,
>placing everyone at risk for serious injury or death.
>
>The technology is there .. why not do it?
>
>In this particular chase that began near my home, the
>police officer ended up hitting a Toyota in Washington, DC
>and the two, innocent occupants ended up in critical condition.
>
>The suspect, as usual, got away.
>
>----------------------------------------------------
>Police from two jurisdictions are still investigating a police chase
>that started in Montgomery County and ended in a crash in Northwest
>DC.
>
>http://www.wusatv9.com/news/news_ar..x?storyid=33890
><http://www.wusatv9.com/news/news_ar..x?storyid=33890>
>----------------------------------------------------
>
>(KM)




Old Post 10-10-04 07:11 AM
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Paul



Re: Time for a auto kill switch!

<poboxdc@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:416869CB.F8612AC4@ix.netcom.com..
> It's about time auto makers installed a "kill switch" that
> would allow police officers to disrupt the ignition of
> a suspect's vehicle .. instead of chasing the suspect

<snip>

Maybe the cops ought to put them in their cars first before people like
you mandate them for us...
http://tinyurl.com/5jtal

BTW, where does governmental abuse of this system stop? I can just see
some shit for brains politician deciding to use such technology to
restrict the law abiding's ability to get around.





Old Post 10-10-04 07:11 AM
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James C. Reeves



Re: Time for a auto kill switch!
I disagree..abuse of the technology would become rampant.

<poboxdc@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:416869CB.F8612AC4@ix.netcom.com..
| It's about time auto makers installed a "kill switch" that
| would allow police officers to disrupt the ignition of
| a suspect's vehicle .. instead of chasing the suspect
| along interstate highways and through congested cities,
| placing everyone at risk for serious injury or death.
|
| The technology is there .. why not do it?
|
| In this particular chase that began near my home, the
| police officer ended up hitting a Toyota in Washington, DC
| and the two, innocent occupants ended up in critical condition.
|
| The suspect, as usual, got away.
|
| ----------------------------------------------------
| Police from two jurisdictions are still investigating a police chase
| that started in Montgomery County and ended in a crash in Northwest
| DC.
|
| http://www.wusatv9.com/news/news_ar..x?storyid=33890
| <http://www.wusatv9.com/news/news_ar..x?storyid=33890>
| ----------------------------------------------------
|
| (KM)





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poboxdc@ix.netcom.com



Re: Time for a auto kill switch!
"James C. Reeves" wrote:
>
> I disagree..abuse of the technology would become rampant.

Oh, do speeding criminals and drunk drivers have "rights?"

(KM)



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poboxdc@ix.netcom.com



Re: Time for a auto kill switch!
Ry-On wrote:
>
> What would you expect? Put a dummy in a uniform,
> give him a driver's license and they kill innocent people.

Uh? Did you read and understand any of this problem? A
common, drunken criminal led police on a high speed chase.


> Better than a kill switch would be to hire educated people
> to be police men. But then, educated people wouldn't want
> a job compared to a garbologists.

Are you assuming an "educated" officer wouldn't chase
the suspect?

Just what is your point?

(KM)



Old Post 10-10-04 07:11 AM
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Scott en Aztlán



Re: Time for a auto kill switch!
On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 18:44:27 -0400, poboxdc@ix.netcom.com wrote:

>It's about time auto makers installed a "kill switch" that
>would allow police officers to disrupt the ignition of
>a suspect's vehicle .. instead of chasing the suspect
>along interstate highways and through congested cities,
>placing everyone at risk for serious injury or death.
>
>The technology is there .. why not do it?

I agree - I'd *love* to have a remote kill switch to get those goddamn
LLBs out of my way!

Now before you give me your naive protestations about how only the
police will be authorized to use it, recall how controllers forthe
system that turns traffic signals green for emergency vehicles were
recently being sold to the public on the Internet.

>In this particular chase that began near my home, the
>police officer ended up hitting a Toyota in Washington, DC
>and the two, innocent occupants ended up in critical condition.

And that is somehow the chasee's fault? Seems to me the crash was the
fault of the incompetent XXXX behind the wheel of the police car; if
he can't handle a car at high speed, he shouldn't be chasing suspects
through congested city streets. In fact, this is *precisely* why many
police departments have policies against chasing suspects.

--
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Old Post 10-10-04 07:11 AM
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maradcliff@UNLISTED.com



Re: Time for a auto kill switch!
Do you really think a criminal would keep the kill switch in working
order?  I know that I could easily bypass such a device, of course I
am trained in electronics, but criminals have friends who can work on
cars too.

And what about the guy that decides to build a "stop box" and drives
around killing everyones cars for fun.  Yes, the technology is there,
but so are the "hackers".  Look at all the viruses on the internet and
you'll understand the problem.



On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 18:44:27 -0400, poboxdc@ix.netcom.com wrote:

>It's about time auto makers installed a "kill switch" that
>would allow police officers to disrupt the ignition of
>a suspect's vehicle .. instead of chasing the suspect
>along interstate highways and through congested cities,
>placing everyone at risk for serious injury or death.
>
>The technology is there .. why not do it?
>
>In this particular chase that began near my home, the
>police officer ended up hitting a Toyota in Washington, DC
>and the two, innocent occupants ended up in critical condition.
>
>The suspect, as usual, got away.
>
>----------------------------------------------------
>Police from two jurisdictions are still investigating a police chase
>that started in Montgomery County and ended in a crash in Northwest
>DC.
>
>http://www.wusatv9.com/news/news_ar..x?storyid=33890
><http://www.wusatv9.com/news/news_ar..x?storyid=33890>
>----------------------------------------------------
>
>(KM)




Old Post 10-10-04 07:11 AM
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poboxdc@ix.netcom.com



Re: Time for a auto kill switch!
maradcliff@UNLISTED.com wrote:
>
> Do you really think a criminal would keep the kill switch in working
> order?  I know that I could easily bypass such a device, of course I
> am trained in electronics, but criminals have friends who can work on
> cars too.
>
> And what about the guy that decides to build a "stop box" and drives
> around killing everyones cars for fun.  Yes, the technology is there,
> but so are the "hackers".  Look at all the viruses on the internet and
> you'll understand the problem.

I fully understand there will be all sorts of abusers in
society. They abuse guns, drugs, people, and the list goes
on and on.

But what is worse .. regarding the engine kill switch, a
few people inconveienced ... or a few dead people from
a chase?

(KM)



Old Post 10-10-04 07:11 AM
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poboxdc@ix.netcom.com



Re: Time for a auto kill switch!
"Scott en Aztlán" wrote:
>
> On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 18:44:27 -0400, poboxdc@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> 
>
> I agree - I'd *love* to have a remote kill switch to get those goddamn
> LLBs out of my way!
>
> Now before you give me your naive protestations about how only the
> police will be authorized to use it, recall how controllers forthe
> system that turns traffic signals green for emergency vehicles were
> recently being sold to the public on the Internet.

So what?
 
>
> And that is somehow the chasee's fault? Seems to me the crash was the
> fault of the incompetent XXXX behind the wheel of the police car; if
> he can't handle a car at high speed, he shouldn't be chasing suspects
> through congested city streets. In fact, this is *precisely* why many
> police departments have policies against chasing suspects.

If a "kill switch" had been properly used we wouldn't be having this
conversation .. would we? For God's sake, grow up!

(KM)



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