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Any alternative treatments for gout?
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| pcorrente00@gmail.com 2006-08-04, 4:30 pm |
| Hi Guys.
I've been lurking here for awhile and wanted to chime in.
Other than the drugs on offer, I was wondering whether any of you know
of any alternative remedies to resolve the gout or deaden the pain of
gout.
Thanks.
Paul.
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| Jason Johnson 2006-08-04, 4:30 pm |
| In article <1154706096.940715.158910@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
pcorrente00@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Guys.
I've been lurking here for awhile and wanted to chime in.
Other than the drugs on offer, I was wondering whether any of you know
of any alternative remedies to resolve the gout or deaden the pain of
gout.
Thanks.
Paul.
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Paul,
I just checked the index of the following book and gout is
discussed on 8 pages of the book.
COPING WITH KIDNEY DISEASE--A 12 STEP TREATMENT PROGRAM TO HELP
YOU AVOID DIALYSIS
by Mackenzie Walser, M.D. (nephrologist and college professor)
I hope this helps,
Jason
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| In article <1154706096.940715.158910@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
pcorrente00@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi Guys.
>
> I've been lurking here for awhile and wanted to chime in.
>
> Other than the drugs on offer, I was wondering whether any of you know
> of any alternative remedies to resolve the gout or deaden the pain of
> gout.
Well, it's a drug, but not as well-known as some of the others:
colchicine. I don't have true gout, but have everything but the pain in
the big toe, and colchicine was the only drug I didn't have a serious
reaction to.
Aside from that, there's the usual dietary measures of which I am sure
you are aware; if not, it's to avoid high-purine foods (organ meats) and
foods such as strawberries. (Ask your doctor for a more complete dietary
guide if s/he hasn't provided you one; anonymous internet yahoos such as
me are not reliable for medical advice.)
--
"Did Father shoot him? I will eat Grandfather for dinner."
- Helen Keller, on learning of the death of her grandfather
email: aripee at inanna.com
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| pcorrente00@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi Guys.
>
> I've been lurking here for awhile and wanted to chime in.
>
> Other than the drugs on offer, I was wondering whether any of you know
> of any alternative remedies to resolve the gout or deaden the pain of
> gout.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Paul.
>
Have you been tested yet to determine if you are an over-producer of
uric acid; or an under-excretor ?? It makes a difference. I take regular
dose of allopurinol as an over-producer. Colchicine is for under-excretors.
There are all sorts of suggested alternatives, like cherry extract for
one. Some work for some people, some don't.
see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gout for some decent basic info on the
above.
--reed
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| In article <ECTAg.9784$157.1757@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
Reed <reedh@rmi.net> wrote:
> pcorrente00@gmail.com wrote:
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> Have you been tested yet to determine if you are an over-producer of
> uric acid; or an under-excretor ?? It makes a difference. I take regular
> dose of allopurinol as an over-producer. Colchicine is for under-excretors.
Are you sure about that? I am a super-excretor (1287 mg; normal range
250 - 750 mg) and I was given colchicine when I had a horrible allergic
reaction to Allopurinol. So far as I know, my doctor isn't actively
trying to kill me ... ! I'm also extremely acidic otherwise, and failed
(horrible allergic reactions or other ghastly things) all other
attempts to raise urinary pH.
--
"Did Father shoot him? I will eat Grandfather for dinner."
- Helen Keller, on learning of the death of her grandfather
email: aripee at inanna . com
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| REP wrote:
> In article <ECTAg.9784$157.1757@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
> Reed <reedh@rmi.net> wrote:
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> Are you sure about that? I am a super-excretor (1287 mg; normal range
> 250 - 750 mg) and I was given colchicine when I had a horrible allergic
> reaction to Allopurinol. So far as I know, my doctor isn't actively
> trying to kill me ... ! I'm also extremely acidic otherwise, and failed
> (horrible allergic reactions or other ghastly things) all other
> attempts to raise urinary pH.
>
Well, it's what my doc told me, and if the point of gout prevention is
to reduce the uric acid level, I not clear how being a "super-excretor"
is a cause of gout. Unless maybe your condition is more unusual, and has
it's own set of causes and problems. Also, it is my understanding that
colchicine is normally only taken during an attack, not as an on-going
prevention like allopurinol is.
The one time I was given colchicine was for an especially bad attack.
Otherwise Indomethacin was used to stop an attack. This was before I
went on the allopurinol (300mg daily for rest of life). Before when I
would have mild "twinge" bouts, ibuprofen worked most times, with
occasional need for indomethacin.
From my experience, and research, gout seems to be one of those
diseases that effects different people differently. What works for one
does nothing for others. I tried most of the "home" remedys, like
cherries, with mixed results, trying to avoid taking Rx drugs. At age
62, it's the only drug I'm on (so far :-)
Good luck with your treatment,
Reed
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| In article <iyWAg.4775$0e5.715@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
Reed <reedh@rmi.net> wrote:
> REP wrote:
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> Well, it's what my doc told me, and if the point of gout prevention is
> to reduce the uric acid level, I not clear how being a "super-excretor"
> is a cause of gout. Unless maybe your condition is more unusual, and has
> it's own set of causes and problems. Also, it is my understanding that
> colchicine is normally only taken during an attack, not as an on-going
> prevention like allopurinol is.
The uric acid builds up in the joints, causing the inflammation and
pain. As I think I mentioned, I don't have classic gout, but most of the
symptoms - high uric acid, uric acid stones, swollen peripheral joints,
etc - and was tried on a bunch of things, including Allopurinol and then
colchicine. I was given colchicine daily, which I know is uncommon, but
it did help.
> I tried most of the "home" remedys, like
> cherries, with mixed results, trying to avoid taking Rx drugs. At age
> 62, it's the only drug I'm on (so far :-)
Show off! I'm 41, and I won't mention how many I'm on (mostly for the
kidney disease and migraines). Good on ya, though!
--
"Did Father shoot him? I will eat Grandfather for dinner."
- Helen Keller, on learning of the death of her grandfather
email: aripee at inanna . com
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