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| thame@dialstart.net 2006-06-04, 9:34 am |
| I seem to remember a while back someone requesting what each food
contains for example, how much pottassium, phospate etc. Someone came
up with a book or website you could look up such information. Could
someone please help me as I'm really struggling with the renal diet
and the dietician at the hospital is useless! This is for someone on
hemodialysis on a 500ml fliud restriction who's also diabetic! Any
information gratefully received.
Christine
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| Larry Krzewinski 2006-06-04, 9:34 am |
| On Wed, 17 May 2006 18:18:43 +0100, thame@dialstart.net wrote:
>I seem to remember a while back someone requesting what each food
>contains for example, how much pottassium, phospate etc. Someone came
>up with a book or website you could look up such information. Could
>someone please help me as I'm really struggling with the renal diet
>and the dietician at the hospital is useless! This is for someone on
>hemodialysis on a 500ml fliud restriction who's also diabetic! Any
>information gratefully received.
>Christine
The book "Bowes & Church's Food Values of Portions Commonly Used" is
the dieticians' bible and it's what I used when I was on a renal diet.
You can find it at Amazon.com here:
http://tinyurl.com/ooanl
I used TinyURL.com to make a short link that will not be broken by
linefeeds for those who are interested. I find it invaluable when
posting long links in Usenet.
Larry
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| Mickey Zalusky 2006-06-04, 9:34 am |
| I've found the USDA Nutrient Database extremely helpful. There are only
a few foods I haven't been able to find. In addition to typically
measured amounts of a particular food, I like the flexibility of being
able to enter a measured amount I'm interested in and having it
calculate the nutrient values for that specific amount.
Mickey
http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/
thame@dialstart.net wrote:
> I seem to remember a while back someone requesting what each food
> contains for example, how much pottassium, phospate etc. Someone came
> up with a book or website you could look up such information. Could
> someone please help me as I'm really struggling with the renal diet
> and the dietician at the hospital is useless! This is for someone on
> hemodialysis on a 500ml fliud restriction who's also diabetic! Any
> information gratefully received.
> Christine
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| thame@dialstart.net 2006-06-04, 9:34 am |
| Thanks to both of you for your help, I'll try both of them!
I need all the help I can get!
On Wed, 17 May 2006 23:20:54 -0700, Mickey Zalusky
<mickey@zalusky.com> wrote:
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>I've found the USDA Nutrient Database extremely helpful. There are only
>a few foods I haven't been able to find. In addition to typically
>measured amounts of a particular food, I like the flexibility of being
>able to enter a measured amount I'm interested in and having it
>calculate the nutrient values for that specific amount.
>Mickey
>
>http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/
>
>
>thame@dialstart.net wrote:
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| thame@dialstart.net 2006-06-04, 9:34 am |
| I looked up the USDA one - I have never been told by the hospital how
to calculate what foods are high in potassium or phospate. They are
not very helpful, Could you tell me how you work it out please - I am
looking a things per 100 grms to try and give me some sort of guide.
Thanks
On Wed, 17 May 2006 23:20:54 -0700, Mickey Zalusky
<mickey@zalusky.com> wrote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
>I've found the USDA Nutrient Database extremely helpful. There are only
>a few foods I haven't been able to find. In addition to typically
>measured amounts of a particular food, I like the flexibility of being
>able to enter a measured amount I'm interested in and having it
>calculate the nutrient values for that specific amount.
>Mickey
>
>http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/
>
>
>thame@dialstart.net wrote:
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| Mickey Zalusky 2006-06-04, 9:34 am |
| There are two approaches you can take.
First, you can simply look up the kinds of foods you normally eat to see
what values each of them has. For example, I like to eat corn. So, I
search for corn, select the specific type (i.e., "Corn, sweet, yellow,
frozen, kernals cut off cob, boiled, drained, without salt". The next
page allows you to choose the specific amount. By default, this page
always has the 100 grams checkbox checked. I uncheck the 100 grams box
and check the amount I am interested in eating (I check the 0.5 cup
amount since 1/2 cup of corn is a reasonable amount for me). The
resulting page shows me all the nutrient quantities including those I
needs to watch for my renal diet.
From this information I can deduct each nutrient value I'm interested
(for me it's the protein, carbs, calcium, phosphrous, potassium, sodium
and cholesterol values). My dietician has given me specific amounts for
each of these to not exceed during the day. I simply deduct each of the
corn nutrient values so I know if I am within, or exceeding that amount.
If there is a food that I like a lot but is high in one of the nutrients
I need to monitor, I sometimes go back and instead of a 1/2 cup amount,
I will see what the numbers are for a 1/4 cup. This way I can still
have that food but in a smaller amount.
This is pretty tedious at first until you build up the list of foods and
values that you typically eat. I've built up a set of meal plans
specific to my nutirent limits that I can rely on to guide my choices.
The advantage here is that you are choosing foods you typically eat and
learning how to combine them in a way that satisfies the nutrient
limitations of your diet.
The second way to us the nutrient database is to download the entire
database into Excel. The website give you instructions on how to do
this. Once you have it in Excel, you can then sort by any nutrient
column you wish. So, if you want to see all the foods that are highest
in potasium, just sort by the potassium column.
Hope this helps. If you are interested in seeing one my personal daily
menu plans as an example, email me and I'll share what I have with you.
Hope this helps...
Mickey
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thame@dialstart.net wrote:[vbcol=seagreen]
> I looked up the USDA one - I have never been told by the hospital how
> to calculate what foods are high in potassium or phospate. They are
> not very helpful, Could you tell me how you work it out please - I am
> looking a things per 100 grms to try and give me some sort of guide.
> Thanks
>
> On Wed, 17 May 2006 23:20:54 -0700, Mickey Zalusky
> <mickey@zalusky.com> wrote:
>
>
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| charles 2006-06-04, 9:34 am |
| On Wed, 17 May 2006 18:18:43 +0100, thame@dialstart.net wrote:
>I seem to remember a while back someone requesting what each food
>contains for example, how much pottassium, phospate etc. Someone came
>up with a book or website you could look up such information. Could
>someone please help me as I'm really struggling with the renal diet
>and the dietician at the hospital is useless! This is for someone on
>hemodialysis on a 500ml fliud restriction who's also diabetic! Any
>information gratefully received.
>Christine
If you're comfortable with doing stuff on the computer and more than a
little compulsive, like me, you might try this software.
NutriGenie Kidney Disease Nutrition for Windows
http://nutrigenie.biz/ngkdn46.html
It's not cheap at $89 but I used it and thought it helped me. There is
an evaluation version available.
Good luck.
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| In article <126ppf12if7ht0c@corp.supernews.com>,
Mickey Zalusky <mickey@zalusky.com> wrote:
> The second way to us the nutrient database is to download the entire
> database into Excel. The website give you instructions on how to do
> this. Once you have it in Excel, you can then sort by any nutrient
> column you wish. So, if you want to see all the foods that are highest
> in potasium, just sort by the potassium column.
Very cool. Thanks for the information!
--
"Did Father shoot him? I will eat Grandfather for dinner."
- Helen Keller, on learning of the death of her grandfather
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| thame@dialstart.net 2006-06-04, 9:34 am |
| Thanks all of you for being so helpful - Chris
On Thu, 18 May 2006 23:36:09 -0400, charles <someone@somewhere.org>
wrote:
>On Wed, 17 May 2006 18:18:43 +0100, thame@dialstart.net wrote:
>
>
>If you're comfortable with doing stuff on the computer and more than a
>little compulsive, like me, you might try this software.
>
>NutriGenie Kidney Disease Nutrition for Windows
>http://nutrigenie.biz/ngkdn46.html
>
>It's not cheap at $89 but I used it and thought it helped me. There is
>an evaluation version available.
>
>Good luck.
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