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Sando

2006-10-18, 4:34 pm

I have not replied to any of the barbs tossed my way as I have been
waiting for lab results. I get a blood test each month. When my
Creatnine and BUN soared I read here about the dietary approach and I
bought the books.(Walsers and The Kidney Patient)

This was 3 months ago. I started then on the low protein/supplement
regimen. Last month there was improvement (I also take Procrit)

I talked to my nurse just now and last weeks test came back
fantastic! My BUN was done 32 points, Hemocrit was NORMAL and
Creatnine was down another 2 points (still high). Overall very good
news for me.

Now people can just take this for what it's worth. I was nearing
the panic zone on Creatnine and BUN and stared the dietary approach.
To what else can I ascribe this improvement?

That is my input here, hardly a rant!

Procrit worked so well on the Anemia I was today instructed to go
from 20,000 units EOW to that many every 3 weeks.(that stuff is
EXPENSIVE)

PS: My EX, with whom I get along fine, works in the health field (a
Group) and she has observed that MOST of the dieticians with whom she
has contact are themselves lard asses nearing morbid obesity.

Obviously they have never heard of Dr. Walser either as his option
would preclude obesity as well as, hopefully, slowing the progression
of CRF.

Jason Johnson

2006-10-18, 9:33 pm

In article <lrpcj2148vqfr19t4nc26jdco6lv2jigkh@4ax.com>, Sando
<sando!@cox.com> wrote:

I have not replied to any of the barbs tossed my way as I have been
waiting for lab results. I get a blood test each month. When my
Creatnine and BUN soared I read here about the dietary approach and I
bought the books.(Walsers and The Kidney Patient)

This was 3 months ago. I started then on the low protein/supplement
regimen. Last month there was improvement (I also take Procrit)

I talked to my nurse just now and last weeks test came back
fantastic! My BUN was done 32 points, Hemocrit was NORMAL and
Creatnine was down another 2 points (still high). Overall very good
news for me.

Now people can just take this for what it's worth. I was nearing
the panic zone on Creatnine and BUN and stared the dietary approach.
To what else can I ascribe this improvement?

That is my input here, hardly a rant!

Procrit worked so well on the Anemia I was today instructed to go
from 20,000 units EOW to that many every 3 weeks.(that stuff is
EXPENSIVE)

PS: My EX, with whom I get along fine, works in the health field (a
Group) and she has observed that MOST of the dieticians with whom she
has contact are themselves lard asses nearing morbid obesity.

Obviously they have never heard of Dr. Walser either as his option
would preclude obesity as well as, hopefully, slowing the progression
of CRF.

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Sando,
Excellent post. I was pleased to learn that the treatment program
discussed in Doctor Walser's book was helpful for you. Your case reminded
me of the some of the case studies mentioned in Dr. Walser's book. I doubt
that hardly any of the critics of Dr. Walser's treatment program have
taken the time needed to read Dr. Walser's book. You mentioned that the
dieticians that your EX works with do not know about Dr. Walser's book.
The sad truth is that many nephrologists also do not know about Dr.
Walser's treatment program. In addition, most GPs also don't know about
it. My doctor (an internist) told me that he will not refer a patient to a
nephrologist unless they already had ESRD.
Jason
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Dave

2006-10-18, 9:33 pm

I don't doubt your blood results. One question. I may have missd this
previously, but What is the cause of your CRF? Getting some causes under
control by themselves can help to lower both BUN and Creatinine. The
biggest two that come to mind are the biggest two causes, Diabetes and High
Blood Pressure. With Diabetes, getting the blood glucase back into tight
control will lessen the stress on the kidneys allowing them to recover a
bit. The same goes for High Blood Pressure. Getting these two under very
good control can push off the need for dialysis for years, and in some
cases prevent the progression altogether.

Dave.
Sando

2006-10-19, 9:36 pm

On 19 Oct 2006 02:21:56 GMT, Dave <Someboby@someplace.com> wrote:

Dave:
My CRF has been caused by a lifetime of hypertension. Now the
renal function exacerbates high blood pressure. It's a Catch-22. I
take three BP pills a day plus diuretics. Still my systolic seems to
be glued high. The diastolic can be pretty good and for a long time,
doctors said that number was the most important. That has now changed
(Maybe doctors were WRONG for years, oh my!) and they think the
systolic is just as important.
My nurse just gave me a brief report yesterday. I will receive the
complete report in the mail today. There are some 30 markers, My
lab, and labs vary in their criteria, show the range (in which your
numbers should be) as Interval. I thinks range would be more
descriptive. Anyway, a very large number of my range numbers fall
properly. This includes serum albumin which is the indicator for
protein nutrition. It has actually IMPROVED with protein restriction,
a paradox addressed by Dr. Walser.

>I don't doubt your blood results. One question. I may have missd this
>previously, but What is the cause of your CRF? Getting some causes under
>control by themselves can help to lower both BUN and Creatinine. The
>biggest two that come to mind are the biggest two causes, Diabetes and High
>Blood Pressure. With Diabetes, getting the blood glucase back into tight
>control will lessen the stress on the kidneys allowing them to recover a
>bit. The same goes for High Blood Pressure. Getting these two under very
>good control can push off the need for dialysis for years, and in some
>cases prevent the progression altogether.
>
>Dave.


Jason Johnson

2006-10-19, 9:36 pm

In article <kgvfj29o6ql4jm1smj36jmjj9grqrp4m79@4ax.com>, Sando
<sando!@cox.com> wrote:

On 19 Oct 2006 02:21:56 GMT, Dave <Someboby@someplace.com> wrote:

Dave:
My CRF has been caused by a lifetime of hypertension. Now the
renal function exacerbates high blood pressure. It's a Catch-22. I
take three BP pills a day plus diuretics. Still my systolic seems to
be glued high. The diastolic can be pretty good and for a long time,
doctors said that number was the most important. That has now changed
(Maybe doctors were WRONG for years, oh my!) and they think the
systolic is just as important.
My nurse just gave me a brief report yesterday. I will receive the
complete report in the mail today. There are some 30 markers, My
lab, and labs vary in their criteria, show the range (in which your
numbers should be) as Interval. I thinks range would be more
descriptive. Anyway, a very large number of my range numbers fall
properly. This includes serum albumin which is the indicator for
protein nutrition. It has actually IMPROVED with protein restriction,
a paradox addressed by Dr. Walser.

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Sando,
Dave is correct about the importance of keeping your BP under control.

However, by following Dr. Walser's treatment program and keeping your
blood pressure under control, you may be able to avoid dialysis or at
least avoid dialysis for many years. Doctor Walser discusses the
importance of keeping your blood pressure under control in his book.

You are on the right track.

I wonder how many thousands of people have avoided dialysis as a result
of reading Dr. Walser's book?

Hang in there.

Jason
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>I don't doubt your blood results. One question. I may have missd this
>previously, but What is the cause of your CRF? Getting some causes under
>control by themselves can help to lower both BUN and Creatinine. The
>biggest two that come to mind are the biggest two causes, Diabetes and High
>Blood Pressure. With Diabetes, getting the blood glucase back into tight
>control will lessen the stress on the kidneys allowing them to recover a
>bit. The same goes for High Blood Pressure. Getting these two under very
>good control can push off the need for dialysis for years, and in some
>cases prevent the progression altogether.
>
>Dave.


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