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| Hello. I an new to this group. I have recently been diagnosed with
kidney failure. I am already on dialisis and I am told I will need
kidney transplant. I am also receiving chemotherapy. My questions are
what type of foods can I eat? What brand of butter do I buy? What type
of bread? Does anybody have a safe pasta sauce recipe as I cannot have
tomatoes. I seem to be living on soups and jelly as I cannot digest
food properly. What are your thoughts on using a Naturapath for kidney
failure? I live in Rural SA and do not find the support very good.
Thank you for helping me. I know I will have more questions to ask
later if you do not mind? Thank you for all of your much appreciated
assistance. Gypsy.
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| charles381@webtv.net 2006-10-05, 2:33 am |
| Hello, I am a former chemo patient and have kidney failure. I too am on
dialysis.
When on chemo, I ate whatever would stay down, lots of protein to keep
up my strength. Now that I am on dialysis, its soups, pasta(plain) with
parma-cheese.
Lots of fish, pork, chicken,turkey....no organ meats!
Light colored drinks(soft). Breads are ok.
Take your binders to clear out the phosperous.
And wait in line for a kidney. Ask a family member if they are suitable.
GOOD LUCK and take care.
Charles
Mich
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| Thank you Charles! Good luck and take care to you also! Can I ask you
what bread you have? Breads leave me feeling rotten. I have tried white
bread, gluten free. Gypsy.
charles381@webtv.net wrote:
> Hello, I am a former chemo patient and have kidney failure. I too am on
> dialysis.
> When on chemo, I ate whatever would stay down, lots of protein to keep
> up my strength. Now that I am on dialysis, its soups, pasta(plain) with
> parma-cheese.
> Lots of fish, pork, chicken,turkey....no organ meats!
> Light colored drinks(soft). Breads are ok.
> Take your binders to clear out the phosperous.
> And wait in line for a kidney. Ask a family member if they are suitable.
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> GOOD LUCK and take care.
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> Charles
> Mich
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| Objective_Man 2006-10-05, 4:28 pm |
| Greetings,
Something I have tried with great success is the Blood Type Diet.
http://www.dadamo.com
Being on dialysis is difficult in regards to food and the blood type
diet allowed me to understand why some things make me ill and others
worked so well for me even when they seemed like they should not.
The best part of the blood type diet is that almost all the information
is online and freely available. I would suggest his book just as a
reference but you can get started right away online. And for those of
us on dialysis it is very easy to learn out blood type so that saves a
lot of hassle. Most people do not know their our type.
Good Luck!
Gypsy wrote:
> Hello. I an new to this group. I have recently been diagnosed with
> kidney failure. I am already on dialisis and I am told I will need
> kidney transplant. I am also receiving chemotherapy. My questions are
> what type of foods can I eat? What brand of butter do I buy? What type
> of bread? Does anybody have a safe pasta sauce recipe as I cannot have
> tomatoes. I seem to be living on soups and jelly as I cannot digest
> food properly. What are your thoughts on using a Naturapath for kidney
> failure? I live in Rural SA and do not find the support very good.
> Thank you for helping me. I know I will have more questions to ask
> later if you do not mind? Thank you for all of your much appreciated
> assistance. Gypsy.
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| Dennis R. 2006-10-06, 2:33 am |
| In article <1160062685.354247.98330@c28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
Jim@JimCales.com says...
> Greetings,
> Something I have tried with great success is the Blood Type Diet.
> http://www.dadamo.com
>
> Being on dialysis is difficult in regards to food and the blood type
> diet allowed me to understand why some things make me ill and others
> worked so well for me even when they seemed like they should not.
>
> The best part of the blood type diet is that almost all the information
> is online and freely available. I would suggest his book just as a
> reference but you can get started right away online. And for those of
> us on dialysis it is very easy to learn out blood type so that saves a
> lot of hassle. Most people do not know their our type.
>
> Good Luck!
>
You might as well determine a diet by reading chicken entrails. The only
so-called proof that suppposedly validates this quacks theories was
conducted by him (surprise!), but has never been replicated by anybody
else in the entire world (even bigger surprise). People are so gullible.
Google: blood type diet nonsense
If you cannot have access to a renal dietitian, try
Google: dialysis diets
http://kidneyschool.org
http://kidney.niddk.nih.gov/kudisea...right/index.htm
http://www.nwkidney.org/images/webs...on/diabetes.htm
Dennis (Kidney Transplant 1995)
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| Objective_Man 2006-10-06, 4:28 pm |
| Have you ever tried the Blood Type Diet? Or do you simply condemn it
on the words of others? I have tried it and found great success with
it. Perhaps you should try it for a month before you allow others to
think for you?
Jim
Dennis R. wrote:
> You might as well determine a diet by reading chicken entrails. The only
> so-called proof that suppposedly validates this quacks theories was
> conducted by him (surprise!), but has never been replicated by anybody
> else in the entire world (even bigger surprise). People are so gullible.
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| Dennis R. 2006-10-08, 9:29 pm |
| In article <1160150591.019126.229390@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
Jim@JimCales.com says...
> Have you ever tried the Blood Type Diet? Or do you simply condemn it
> on the words of others? I have tried it and found great success with
> it. Perhaps you should try it for a month before you allow others to
> think for you?
>
> Jim
> Dennis R. wrote:
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1. Why would I try something that nobody in the scientific world finds
remotely plausible or provable, except the quack who pushes it? Even Dr.
Weil, who pushes the limits of credibility, thinks that it total
garbage.
http://www.drweil.com/drw/ecs/forum...THR41444&catid=
592&page=1
"Nonsense. In the first place, I know of no evidence that prehistoric
people ate diets that somehow were dictated by their individual blood
types. Furthermore, humans aren't the only animals with blood types, and
there is absolutely nothing in scientific literature to suggest that
blood types governed how either animals or humans ate during prehistoric
times.
It's worth noting that the "studies" D'Adamo cites have been published
only by him and not in any scientific journals whatsoever. In fact, once
you get past the gimmicks and carefully evaluate D'Adamo's instructions,
you'll see ultimately that his diets are actually just low in calories.
Undoubtedly, if you take in fewer calories than usual, you'll lose
weight regardless of their source and absolutely regard"
2. How long were you on dialysis? What were your numbers like?
3. Did any certified Renal Dietitian ever tell you that this was
anything other than a crock of horse manure? Not some "nutritionist",
which anybody off the street can call themself, and not even a regular
Dietitian, but a real specialist?
4. Dialysis diets involve a constant balancing of electrolytes and
minerals between food intake and dialysis cleansing. There is no
differnce between blood types on the dialysis chair. There may be a
difference when it comes to getting a transplant.
5. Newbies need real advice, not patent nonsense.
Dennis (Kidney Transplant 1995)
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| Judanne 2006-10-12, 2:32 am |
| Hi Gypsy,
In answer to your questions, the shorthand version I used for remembering
what NOT to eat is:
low dairy, no stone fruit, no tropical fruit, no organ meats, no potatoes.
Eat everything else, but in moderation (except chocolate - don't have any).
I was also limited to 500ml of fluid a day on top of whatever amount you
manage to pass. The trouble is that as the failure progresses you pass less
and less, so that eventually you have just 500ml a day.
Your local renal support group or kidney health organisation should have
easy-to-follow guidelines for diet. I used to have mine on the fridge. Is
rural SA South Australia? If so then Kidney Health Australia has a very
good cookbook for renal patients. You can find them on www.kidney.org.au
As far as naturopaths go, I have found no problems with them, just don't
change medications or take any herbal remedies on their advice. Some herbal
remedies react badly to meds or increase your phosphate levels.
Regards,
Judanne
(now on her 2nd renal transplant!)
"Gypsy" <zachary.jasmine.pusspuss@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1159848261.622575.205880@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Hello. I an new to this group. I have recently been diagnosed with
> kidney failure. I am already on dialisis and I am told I will need
> kidney transplant. I am also receiving chemotherapy. My questions are
> what type of foods can I eat? What brand of butter do I buy? What type
> of bread? Does anybody have a safe pasta sauce recipe as I cannot have
> tomatoes. I seem to be living on soups and jelly as I cannot digest
> food properly. What are your thoughts on using a Naturapath for kidney
> failure? I live in Rural SA and do not find the support very good.
> Thank you for helping me. I know I will have more questions to ask
> later if you do not mind? Thank you for all of your much appreciated
> assistance. Gypsy.
>
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| Judanne 2006-10-12, 2:32 am |
| It has been roundly criticised by dieticians and food scientists as having
no basis in fact or science. The only difference in one blood type from
another seems to be a small glycoprotein at the end of the molecule change.
Not big enough to warrant a different diet for each blood type. Also if all
the world were to follow that 'logic' then most of the world would be on the
one diet (the O's) and logic tells you that hasn't and wont happen.
Anyway, why would you take the risk of following a diet that may end up
causing more harm than good? Are there guidelines for low phosphate and low
potassium eating in that diet? If not, then you definitely WILL cause harm
by following it.
The best diet to follow is one that has been determined to be safest for
renal patients and they are the ones recommended by your renal dietician or
national kidney association.
Judanne
Tasmania
"Objective_Man" <Jim@JimCales.com> wrote in message
news:1160150591.019126.229390@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Have you ever tried the Blood Type Diet? Or do you simply condemn it
> on the words of others? I have tried it and found great success with
> it. Perhaps you should try it for a month before you allow others to
> think for you?
>
> Jim
> Dennis R. wrote:
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