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| thame@dialstart.net 2005-10-11, 11:16 am |
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Where can I get a diet book for a diabetic on hemodialysis, that is
low in potasium, phosphate and allows 500ml fluid allowance per day?
The hospital dietician is of no help and we have got to the stage
where everything we pick up is not suitable. We have a basic list of
foods that are high in potasium, phosphate but thats all wev'e been
given. I'd be grateful for any sugestions for a sort of healthy renal
diet if there is such a thing.
Thanks
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| Larry Krzewinski 2005-10-11, 11:16 am |
| On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 13:04:52 +0100, thame@dialstart.net wrote:
>Where can I get a diet book for a diabetic on hemodialysis, that is
>low in potasium, phosphate and allows 500ml fluid allowance per day?
>The hospital dietician is of no help and we have got to the stage
>where everything we pick up is not suitable. We have a basic list of
>foods that are high in potasium, phosphate but thats all wev'e been
>given. I'd be grateful for any sugestions for a sort of healthy renal
>diet if there is such a thing.
>Thanks
There is a book that you can buy which will allow you to eat anything.
In order to stay within the guidelines of a renal diet all you really
need to know is exactly what is in anything you'd like to eat and
adjust the portion size accordingly. I bought it and have recommended
it to many others on dialysis. You can buy it directly from
Amazon.com here:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/03...=books&v=glance
All dieticians use "Bowes & Church's Food Values of Portions Commonly
Used" as their bible on nutrition. It breaks down exactly what is in
all foods, even frozen food and fast foods.
In order for you to be able to use the book correctly you will need to
ask your renal dietician exactly how many milligrams of potassium,
phosphorus, and sodium you are allowed to consume on a daily basis.
Then, by using the book you can plan your meals accordingly. I ate
everything I wanted to eat once I had the book. It can make a world
of difference by removing any confusion about what you can and can't
eat. Once again, you can eat anything as long as you adjust portion
size to remain within your renal guideline limits.
Good luck to you. Bon appetite!
Larry
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| Dennis Rekuta 2005-10-12, 1:05 am |
| Larry Krzewinski wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 13:04:52 +0100, thame@dialstart.net wrote:
>
>
>
>
> There is a book that you can buy which will allow you to eat anything.
> In order to stay within the guidelines of a renal diet all you really
> need to know is exactly what is in anything you'd like to eat and
> adjust the portion size accordingly. I bought it and have recommended
> it to many others on dialysis. You can buy it directly from
> Amazon.com here:
>
> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/03...=books&v=glance
>
> All dieticians use "Bowes & Church's Food Values of Portions Commonly
> Used" as their bible on nutrition. It breaks down exactly what is in
> all foods, even frozen food and fast foods.
>
> In order for you to be able to use the book correctly you will need to
> ask your renal dietician exactly how many milligrams of potassium,
> phosphorus, and sodium you are allowed to consume on a daily basis.
> Then, by using the book you can plan your meals accordingly. I ate
> everything I wanted to eat once I had the book. It can make a world
> of difference by removing any confusion about what you can and can't
> eat. Once again, you can eat anything as long as you adjust portion
> size to remain within your renal guideline limits.
>
> Good luck to you. Bon appetite!
>
> Larry
The makers of E.P.O. (Epogen) also have some ready made menus available
for download at:
http://www.epogen.com/patient/patie...ntroduction.jsp
Here is a list of some Renal Diet Resources at:
http://www.diet-i.com/renal-diet-support.htm
Dennis (Kidney Transplant 1995)
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| Charles Torrisi 2005-10-13, 11:05 am |
| Look on website for daVita.com. They have some recipes and suggest some
books that are available for this diet of low potassium and phosphate.
they also have alot of other information that may be helpful to you.
Charlie
Have a great day!!
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| Personally, I've never found renal diet recipes that useful. There's really
no substitute for potassium, so, you just have to limit the amount you eat.
The big thing with renal diet recipes is mainly with regard to phosphorus.
There are ways you can make things with cream sauces, for example, without
using dairy. And there are ways to use spices and stuff to make food that's
tasty but low in sodium.
I've tried some recipes, but in the end, I just make food the same way I
always did, but I avoided extra salt, potassium and phosphorus. I say
"avoided" because now that I'm on daily nocturnal hemodialysis, I actually
have to make an effort to eat more of those things or else my numbers will
be too low :-)
Pierre
"Charles Torrisi" <CTORRISI56@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:27696-434E0EAB-148@storefull-3313.bay.webtv.net...
> Look on website for daVita.com. They have some recipes and suggest some
> books that are available for this diet of low potassium and phosphate.
> they also have alot of other information that may be helpful to you.
> Charlie
>
> Have a great day!!
>
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| thame@dialstart.net 2005-10-13, 6:03 pm |
| Thanks for all your comments - I will certainly look into all of it
and hopefully I can keep the figures low. Shame I can't control his
fluid intake!. Having Hypo's every day doesn't help. I am also going
to look into daily nocturnal hemodialysis to see if this is available
in the UK - it sounds better than this three times a week crap! Im
very grateful. Thank you
On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 09:54:24 -0400, "Pete" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>Personally, I've never found renal diet recipes that useful. There's really
>no substitute for potassium, so, you just have to limit the amount you eat.
>
>The big thing with renal diet recipes is mainly with regard to phosphorus.
>There are ways you can make things with cream sauces, for example, without
>using dairy. And there are ways to use spices and stuff to make food that's
>tasty but low in sodium.
>
>I've tried some recipes, but in the end, I just make food the same way I
>always did, but I avoided extra salt, potassium and phosphorus. I say
>"avoided" because now that I'm on daily nocturnal hemodialysis, I actually
>have to make an effort to eat more of those things or else my numbers will
>be too low :-)
>
>Pierre
>
>
>"Charles Torrisi" <CTORRISI56@webtv.net> wrote in message
>news:27696-434E0EAB-148@storefull-3313.bay.webtv.net...
>
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| Pierre 2005-10-13, 6:03 pm |
| You're welcome.
This may or may not apply to you, I don't know, but, many people don't
realize that fluid intake is directly related to sodium intake. It can be a
losing battle to try and control drinking if you don't strictly control
sodium intake. I mean, it's almost impossible not to drink when you're
thirsty, and it's the sodium that makes you thirsty. Daily hemodialysis
greatly improves this, of course, because you don't have that extra day in
between treatments.
Pierre
<thame@dialstart.net> wrote in message
news:bndtk1pc2t9ks4v8d4hj1haga54kep4ehn@4ax.com...
> Thanks for all your comments - I will certainly look into all of it
> and hopefully I can keep the figures low. Shame I can't control his
> fluid intake!. Having Hypo's every day doesn't help. I am also going
> to look into daily nocturnal hemodialysis to see if this is available
> in the UK - it sounds better than this three times a week crap! Im
> very grateful. Thank you
>
>
> On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 09:54:24 -0400, "Pete" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>
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| avjoel@yahoo.co.uk 2005-11-11, 3:24 pm |
| can anybody name what kind of food may be eaten by pre dialysis patient
? i.e. what foods are low in protien
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| In article <1130445103.740236.41830@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
"avjoel@yahoo.co.uk" <avjoel@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> can anybody name what kind of food may be eaten by pre dialysis patient
> ? i.e. what foods are low in protien
Ask your nephrologist. When I became nephrotic and told I'd have to
start a renal diet, I thought it meant low-protein, but apparently
low-protein diets are no longer standard. My restrictions are calcium,
potassium, phosphate and sodium. Your doctor may have something else in
mind for you so be sure to ask.
Miner Electrolyte Metab. 1999 Jul-Dec;25(4-6):311-6
EDTNA ERCA J. 2001 Apr-Jun;27(2):101-4
Kidney Int. 2000 Oct;58(4):1381-8
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"Did Father shoot him? I will eat Grandfather for dinner."
- Helen Keller, on learning of the death of her grandfather
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