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Allan

2006-03-22, 4:25 pm



What can cause "nerves" even when there is nothing to make one
nervous?

My nerves are a mess. They have been for most of my life. And that is
weird because I am leading a very unstressed life. I live alone and
only go out about once a day. I work from home.

A few weeks ago, after a romantic disappointment, I came down with
severe debility and was unable to stay relaxed or sleep at night
except with drugs.

I get tension headaches and ocular migraines quite frequently.

Some days (every other day, on average), I just want to doze on my bed
most of the day).

I have been to GPs about it many times throughout my life but none
have ever helped. One prescribed attivan (lorazepam) which helped but
it makes me so abscent minded and is addictive so I don't like taking
them.

Some days I feel like I need a good tranquillizer. Other days I feel
like I need a good stimulant.

I've had all the usual blood tests and nothing shows up as wrong.

A few weeks ago, a doc tried me on an SSRI. It gave me horrible
side-effects and didn't sem to help. He tried me on a different SSRI.
That still didn't help.

What could be wrong?

Thank you,

Allan
(PeteCresswell)

2006-03-22, 4:25 pm

Per Allan:
>Some days I feel like I need a good tranquillizer. Other days I feel
>like I need a good stimulant.
>
>I've had all the usual blood tests and nothing shows up as wrong.
>
>A few weeks ago, a doc tried me on an SSRI. It gave me horrible
>side-effects and didn't sem to help. He tried me on a different SSRI.
>That still didn't help.
>
>What could be wrong?


Haven't got a clue what might be wrong, but I've been sort of like that most of
my life.

One of my workarounds has been regular exercise. I try for an hour per day and
wind up with more like 2 hours 3-4 times per week.

If you don't do that, I'd advise giving it a try. To me, the secret is that
the pleasure has to exceed the pain. You need to experiment and find something
you can live with. Definitely don't hit it too hard until you feel in complete
control and find yourself looking forward to it each day.

Swimming gave me the best mind set overall but took a lot of time (drive to the
pool, change....and all that) and I got sinus problems from the chlorine.

If my legs were still good, running would be my #1 choice. Minimal foreplay,
can be done almost anywhere....

Currently I ride a mountain bike. Not hard and not crazy... An MTB mainly just
to stay away from cars.

My experience is that no matter how I feel going into a workout (great, lousy,
somewhere in-between) I come out feeling about the same each time: sort of
"even"...
--
PeteCresswell
Allan

2006-03-22, 4:25 pm

On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:01:54 -0500, "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid>
wrote:


>My experience is that no matter how I feel going into a workout (great, lousy,
>somewhere in-between) I come out feeling about the same each time: sort of
>"even"...


Hello Pete, Thanks for the input. Sorry to hear you've had the same
long-term problem. I wish your above statement were true for me.
Unfortunately, when my energies are depleted from
whatever-my-problem-is, exercise is just make me worse for the next
few days. The only thing that helps is to spend a day lying around
napping at home. Then I might feel somewhat better the next day.

I actually was jogging twice a week when I came down with my current
bout of severe debility - the worst I've ever experienced. It has been
going on now for about 6 weeks, with pretty bad debility about every
other day, on average.

Regards,
Allan

Allan WW

2006-03-24, 11:35 am

On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 21:53:06 +0000, Allan <wmfgfgfg81@aol.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:01:54 -0500, "(PeteCresswell)" <x@y.Invalid>
>wrote:
>
>
>
>Hello Pete, Thanks for the input. Sorry to hear you've had the same
>long-term problem. I wish your above statement were true for me.
>Unfortunately, when my energies are depleted from
>whatever-my-problem-is, exercise is just make me worse for the next
>few days. The only thing that helps is to spend a day lying around
>napping at home. Then I might feel somewhat better the next day.
>
>I actually was jogging twice a week when I came down with my current
>bout of severe debility - the worst I've ever experienced. It has been
>going on now for about 6 weeks, with pretty bad debility about every
>other day, on average.
>
>Regards,
>Allan


PS. I seem to have solved the anxiety symptoms (e.g., the shakes) with
propanolol, a beta-blocker. But I'm still desparately tired most of
the time.

Allan

Jerry Story

2006-03-25, 1:34 am

Allan wrote:
> What can cause "nerves" even when there is nothing to make one
> nervous?
>
> My nerves are a mess. They have been for most of my life. And that is
> weird because I am leading a very unstressed life. I live alone and
> only go out about once a day. I work from home.
>
> A few weeks ago, after a romantic disappointment, I came down with
> severe debility and was unable to stay relaxed or sleep at night
> except with drugs.
>
> I get tension headaches and ocular migraines quite frequently.
>
> Some days (every other day, on average), I just want to doze on my bed
> most of the day).
>
> I have been to GPs about it many times throughout my life but none
> have ever helped. One prescribed attivan (lorazepam) which helped but
> it makes me so abscent minded and is addictive so I don't like taking
> them.
>
> Some days I feel like I need a good tranquillizer. Other days I feel
> like I need a good stimulant.
>
> I've had all the usual blood tests and nothing shows up as wrong.
>
> A few weeks ago, a doc tried me on an SSRI. It gave me horrible
> side-effects and didn't sem to help. He tried me on a different SSRI.
> That still didn't help.
>
> What could be wrong?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Allan

By only half-thinking, it is possible to come up with a long list of
possible causes. But deficiency of a drug is not among the causes. With
the resources on the internet you probably can figure it out.

First, you can Google a list of neurological diseases (if that's what
you think it is). Then go thru each disease one by one, and find the
best fit. That's your self-diagnosis. You can also get a doctor's
independent diagnosis. The doctor probably will reach the same
conclusion. If not, then yours might be more accurate.

Second, get info about the disease or health problem. If you work at it
properly you will almost certainly end up with more -practical-
knowledge about your condition than the doctors. I emphasize
*practical* knowledge as opposed to impractical knowledge.

Do not assume (like most people assume) that people with an MD after
their name know it all. How could they know it all when:
1. Typically (according to Dr. Blaylock) they learn biochemistry and
nutrition in only their first year in medical school and after that
nothing about biochemistry and nutrition.
2. Typically doctors are overworked and understaffed and simply don't
have time to keep up with their studies. (Even if they wanted to.)
3. Typically doctors have much pressure on them to prescribe drugs
rather than health.
4. There are many diseases and health problems. Tens of thousands. It
is not possible for a doctor, even with the best of intentions, to be
an expert on all of them. But you can become an expert on your own one
disease or health problem.

If you insist on doing drugs prescribed by a Medical Deity, then at
least you should do some searches on those drugs. Find out the horrible
facts about drugs that doctors don't tell you. You will be shocked by
the truth about SSRIs. Think for yourself.

Allan WW

2006-03-25, 1:26 pm

On 24 Mar 2006 22:01:53 -0800, "Jerry Story" <jstory@ocii.com> wrote:

>By only half-thinking, it is possible to come up with a long list of
>possible causes. But deficiency of a drug is not among the causes. With
>the resources on the internet you probably can figure it out.
>
>First, you can Google a list of neurological diseases (if that's what
>you think it is). Then go thru each disease one by one, and find the
>best fit. That's your self-diagnosis. You can also get a doctor's
>independent diagnosis. The doctor probably will reach the same
>conclusion. If not, then yours might be more accurate.
>
>Second, get info about the disease or health problem. If you work at it
>properly you will almost certainly end up with more -practical-
>knowledge about your condition than the doctors. I emphasize
>*practical* knowledge as opposed to impractical knowledge.
>
>Do not assume (like most people assume) that people with an MD after
>their name know it all. How could they know it all when:
>1. Typically (according to Dr. Blaylock) they learn biochemistry and
>nutrition in only their first year in medical school and after that
>nothing about biochemistry and nutrition.
>2. Typically doctors are overworked and understaffed and simply don't
>have time to keep up with their studies. (Even if they wanted to.)
>3. Typically doctors have much pressure on them to prescribe drugs
>rather than health.
>4. There are many diseases and health problems. Tens of thousands. It
>is not possible for a doctor, even with the best of intentions, to be
>an expert on all of them. But you can become an expert on your own one
>disease or health problem.
>
>If you insist on doing drugs prescribed by a Medical Deity, then at
>least you should do some searches on those drugs. Find out the horrible
>facts about drugs that doctors don't tell you. You will be shocked by
>the truth about SSRIs. Think for yourself.


Hi Jerry,
That seems like good advice. Thanks. I'd like to know how to find out
the "truth" about SSRIs though. It doesn't seem a simple matter for
the layman to form a reliable picture about the risks of taking them.

Allan
Jerry Story

2006-03-26, 12:44 am

Allan WW wrote:
> Hi Jerry,
> That seems like good advice. Thanks. I'd like to know how to find out
> the "truth" about SSRIs though. It doesn't seem a simple matter for
> the layman to form a reliable picture about the risks of taking them.
>
> Allan

Search <antidepressants>.
You will find:
http://www.antidepressantsfacts.com/
Here you will find facts. Facts are facts. Facts take precedence over
authority.
A layman can understand these facts.

For an intelligent alternative to drugs, check out:
http://naturalhygienesociety.org/

And:
http://www.soilandhealth.org/
Probably the biggest and best collection of health ebooks on the
internet.

And I am somewhat partial to this sort of thing:
http://www.juicingbook.com/vegetables/

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