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steve@tropheus.demon.co.uk

2004-10-03, 10:17 pm

My wife is suffering from neuropathic pain. The sides of her feet are
so painful that she has to rest with them on a sheepskin. The touch or
any fabric is too painful.

The latest theory from the doctor is a lack of vitamin B6 in her diet.
She is now on a B complex supplement.

She is also on Gabapentin for the pain.

Any ideas of other possible ways to help?


Chakolate

2004-10-03, 10:17 pm

steve@tropheus.demon.co.uk wrote in
news:grook01fcd0h4ouk3ejhc5hp82pk9c14h2@4ax.com:

> My wife is suffering from neuropathic pain. The sides of her feet are
> so painful that she has to rest with them on a sheepskin. The touch or
> any fabric is too painful.
>
> The latest theory from the doctor is a lack of vitamin B6 in her diet.
> She is now on a B complex supplement.
>
> She is also on Gabapentin for the pain.
>
> Any ideas of other possible ways to help?
>
>
>


Alpha Lipoic Acid? I take an extended release form, 300 mg/day (although
I've heard 600 as a better dose) and I have definitely noticed an
improvement.

My neuropathy is from diabetes, and getting my blood glucose under control
was a big step in repairing the damage, but I have to say that my feet hurt
*more* once my sugar went down. At least for a while. The nerves waking
up and repairing themselves can get pretty bad.

Does foot massage help? Lots of people think that they would hate to have
anything touching the painful feet, but it really helped me.

Chakolate

--
Science is facts; just as houses are made of stones, so is science made of
facts; but a pile of stones is not a house and a collection of facts is not
necessarily science.
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steve@tropheus.demon.co.uk

2004-10-03, 10:17 pm

On 18 Sep 2004 17:30:16 GMT, Chakolate
<chakolateDeathToSpammers@allvantage.com> wrote:

>Alpha Lipoic Acid? I take an extended release form, 300 mg/day (although
>I've heard 600 as a better dose) and I have definitely noticed an
>improvement.


She has tried it but it made her feel worse.

>
>My neuropathy is from diabetes, and getting my blood glucose under control
>was a big step in repairing the damage, but I have to say that my feet hurt
>*more* once my sugar went down. At least for a while. The nerves waking
>up and repairing themselves can get pretty bad.
>


She has been checked for diabetes and she does not have it. We can't
think of any cause other than perhaps Cellulitis last year.

The waking nerves is something to think about.

>Does foot massage help? Lots of people think that they would hate to have
>anything touching the painful feet, but it really helped me.
>


That's risky at the moment. Hopefully it will be possible in the
future.

Steve


Herb

2004-10-03, 10:17 pm

I just started taking Alpha Lipoic Acid. Too early to tell if it helps.
I also have been massaging my feet with a vibrator. If eel that
intuitively it should help, but haven't noticed much change.

I thought I read that a shortage of B-12 may be a problem. I hadn't
heard about B-6.

--

hnm




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> steve@tropheus.demon.co.uk wrote in
> news:grook01fcd0h4ouk3ejhc5hp82pk9c14h2@4ax.com:
>
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>
> Alpha Lipoic Acid? I take an extended release form, 300 mg/day

(although
> I've heard 600 as a better dose) and I have definitely noticed an
> improvement.
>
> My neuropathy is from diabetes, and getting my blood glucose under

control
> was a big step in repairing the damage, but I have to say that my feet

hurt
> *more* once my sugar went down. At least for a while. The nerves

waking
> up and repairing themselves can get pretty bad.
>
> Does foot massage help? Lots of people think that they would hate to

have
> anything touching the painful feet, but it really helped me.
>
> Chakolate
>
> --
> Science is facts; just as houses are made of stones, so is science

made of
> facts; but a pile of stones is not a house and a collection of facts

is not
> necessarily science.
> --Henri Poincare


steve@tropheus.demon.co.uk

2004-10-03, 10:17 pm

On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 17:03:30 GMT, "Herb" <herbiem@ phony.com> wrote:

>I just started taking Alpha Lipoic Acid. Too early to tell if it helps.
>I also have been massaging my feet with a vibrator. If eel that
>intuitively it should help, but haven't noticed much change.
>


She has tried ALA but it made her ill.

>I thought I read that a shortage of B-12 may be a problem. I hadn't
>heard about B-6.


It may be something to do with all the B vitamins working together.
I'm not certain but I think B12 needs B6 to work. Even if the B12
level is normal it may not be working properly if the B6 level is low.

I need to read more about B vitamins.

Steve

(Pete Cresswell)

2004-10-03, 10:17 pm

RE/
> neuropathic pain. The sides of her feet are
>so painful that she has to rest with them on a sheepskin. The touch or
>any fabric is too painful.


>Any ideas of other possible ways to help?


This might or might not be realistic in some people's cases, but I believe that
regular exercise has kept mine from getting worse than it is over the last 10
years.

I can't walk - period - unless I want to be up half the night...but I can pedal
a bike and swim.

Swimming at first seemed like a bad idea because the water moving across the
feet was pretty bad - but either I got used to it or was exaggerating it in the
first place because it became a non-issue after about six months. This is pool
swimming...and wearing surf shoes helped a lot too. My wife swims
continuously for about an hour a day. I can't stand the slogging, so I swim
intervals on the clock that add up to about a mile when I go.

"When I go" because I've quit temporarily because of sinus problems from the
chlorinated water.


Which brings me to biking. This is really my one remaining form of exercise.
I pay a price for riding - say 1 hour during lunch or 3 hours on a Saturday or
Sunday...but it's nothing that I can't stand and it doesn't keep me up at night.
On the whole it seems worth it. If anything, my tender butt is the limiting
factor. If I stop riding - like I did when I messed up my back for two weeks,
the residual pain from daily riding goes away completely, but pain when just
sitting around increases noticibly.


My theory is that whatever the root cause, circulation has to play a role in it
somehow, and the more circulation I can impose on my legs/feet the slower the
nerve death will be. I also think that enough exercise keeps the endorphin
system up and running - which probably lets the body tolerate more pain with
less distress.



--
PeteCresswell
OurInnerLight

2004-12-16, 9:26 am

Hi, I posted this elsewhere, but it certainly applies to your situation
because wherever there is pain in the body there are acids... acid = pain
and pain = acids...
Hello and good luck...I hope this information brings light to your
situation..
All neurological disorders are the cause of a poorly balanced environment.
To much acid in the system wears the mylan sheath on the nerves... you see
acid burns.... What is your diet like? Ask yourself...are you drinking
coffee, eating high carbs and sugar...fruit or refined process foods???
The body has difficulty neutralizing acids ingested if in greater
abundance than buffers available. The body has to park these
acids...Where are your weakest areas?
Balance the ph of the blood and tissue and the body will heal itself. Give
the body what it is molecularly structured have to maintain the internal
terrain and disease will subside. Disease is something we do to ourselves
through our lifestyles...i.e. eating, living and thinking....Please read
thru the following:
William Howard Hay states The concept of acid alkaline imbalance as the
cause of disease is not new. In 1933 a New York doctor named William
Howard Hay published a ground-breaking book, A New Health Era in which he
maintains that all disease is caused by autotoxication (or
"self-poisoning") due to acid accumulation in the body:
Now we depart from health in just the proportion to which we have allowed
our alkalies to be dissipated by introduction of acid-forming food in too
great amount... It may seem strange to say that all disease is the same
thing, no matter what its myriad modes of expression, but it is verily so.
William Howard Hay, M.D.

More recently, in his remarkable book Alkalize or Die Dr. Theodore A.
Baroody says essentially the same thing:
The countless names of illnesses do not really matter. What does matter
isthat they all come from the same root cause...too much tissue acid waste
in the body! Theodore A. Baroody, N.D., D.C., Ph.D.

An excerpt from the book, The pH Miracle by Robert O. Young, Ph.D. From
chapter one. "The pH level of our internal fluids effects every cell in
our bodies. The
entire metabolic process depends upon an alkaline environment. Chronic
acidity corrodes body tissue, and if left unchecked will interrupt all
cellular activities and functions, from the beating of your heart to the
neuron firing of your brain. In other words, over acidity interferes with
life itself."

Over-acidification of the cellular systems leads to the overgrowth of
micro-organisms in the systems. These organisms eat your glucose and
nutrition and expel waste products further polluting this environment with
acid wastes, thus creating the cycle of imbalance.

We see these organisms in the live blood, we see the damage to the cells
in the live blood, we know that when the environment is changed, turning
the fluids from acid to more alkaline these organisms can no longer
survive and therefore dibilitating toxins are no longer a problem....
Sounds like you need to flush out all your rivers, oceans and streams so
the acid loving bugs in the system can no longer survive...killing them
and not changing the environment just keeps you getting more toxic,
resulting in sick and tired... want to know more?
In truth and inner light....jerireid@hotmail.com

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