| Tom Lucas 2006-07-27, 4:28 pm |
| "Ace" <acemanvx@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Tom Lucas said:
>
> You got a point. I am supprised how many old people I see reading
> without glasses. Ive asked a few and they smiled at me and said they
> are nearsighed and blessed their luck! You may not understand because
> its different in England but over here, we dread readers.
Perhaps I've hit the nail on the head then? The British culture is much
less about looks, particularly once middle age sets in, but you live in
the land of face lifts and eternal youth. It stands to reason that
things that age you such as reading glasses or grey hair are dreaded.
Admittedly our class divide is more defined and middle to upper class
women would be more likely to take the American approach.
> I find any guy who likes bony women to be strange and abnormal even.
> Most people in the world want a real woman who looks like a real woman
> with real curves in the right place and a figure you can cuddle with.
> Bony women look like 12 year old boys. They look nothing like the type
> of women us men find desirable. Alot of models you see in magazines
> are
> just ugly and look starved.
I was speaking to a girl at work the other day and was suprised to find
that she still believed that men preferred the sterotypical magazine
model. I pointed out how much better long hair is (I've never found a
guy who disagreed) and apparently girls don't know about this. One of
the reasons guys are frightened to get married is that most girls cut
their hair short the day after the honeymoon.
> Well you see good enough and yet you arent happy and wished for better
> results and hope an enhancement will get you there. Everyone wants the
> best vision with lasik.
I don't think that that is unrealistic. If I can get better sight with
an enhancement then I'd be crazy not to.
> They get lasik early on in their training so little money is invested.
They still have to pay his salary for three years and the cost of the
surgery is a hefty sum. If 1 soldier in a 1000 gets stuck in the
backroom then it might be worth a risk but if it is really 2 in 100 like
the doomsayers say then they would throw the idea out immediately.
>
> There is a calculated risk which no one can seem to agree on.
There is a risk that has been calculated that all the people who are
qualified to assess the risk agree on - the FDA (and NHS) assessment.
All the other quarrels and protests are from people no more qualified
than you or eye to assess the risk and from people who have a vested
interest in overplaying it.
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> I believe those two people are visabily unhappy with lasik, no probing
> was needed. Maybe its just a coincidence both of them "lost" the lasik
> lottery, the odds turned against them.
Pretty unlikely. It is statistically almost impossible. There is more
likely to be a common factor like same clinic/surgeon or both not giving
enough respect to the aftercare procedure. i.e "Oh I forgot to do my
drops today", "You'll be alright, I quite often miss mine" or some such
thing.
> Its like rolling a dice, once in
> a while you will get a one several times in a row and curse your luck.
But you have to wait a very long time. A dice is 1 in 6. The odds of
serious problems are way way lower than that.
> But dont you still think it was a bad omen(do you believe in omens?)
> that a soothsayer who had a bad lasik result herself warned you so
> clearly and said youll regret it?
I don't believe in omens and it is far more likely there is a common
factor amongst them that has damaged their surgery. We are not talking
witchcraft here, if you warn enough people one day you will get someone
who is not happy - conveniently ignoring the 1000's you warned who are.
> Its almost as if she was psychic! She
> warned over 50 and the fact only two of them didnt heed her warning
> shows the power in her warning and the power of omens and even some
> sort of psychic ability to predict.
Woah fella, come back from the edge! There's no magic and sorcery going
on in this tale. Firstly, is it even true - it's not so easy to be sure.
Assuming that it is true then had all fifty had surgery then 48 may well
have turned out fine. If all fifty had problems then I might agree that
you were onto something but it is still highly unlikely to be a
supernatural premonition/curse/alien abduction scenario. Remember
Occam's Razor - the simplest solution is normally the correct one. I'm
certain that that is not the full story and their complications are all
related.
> That sure scared off all but two
> who changed their mind! Ive had about 30 people warn me against lasik,
> all over the internet. Theres a difference when someone in *person*
> you
> meet face to face warns you very *strongly* and warns you repeatedly
> which no one has yet.
I've had many people warn me against it online but I've never found
anyone in reality who would recommend against it - even after short term
complications.
> He could be persisant, urgent and direct to the point like that lady
> was who warned over 50 people. Dont underestimate the power some
> people
> have in warning and persuing others. You can thank your friends who
> urged you to stop smoking those cancer sticks  as for eating, go
> ahead, just take up working out and youll look much better How many
> others do you know that got lasik anyhow?
No one wants a friend who whines at you constantly and once I'd made my
decision I would expect them shut up about it even if they didn't like
it. Actually, knowing my friends they would always go the opposite of
what I decided anyway, just to be awkward ;-)
>
> Its a way to quantify how much blur a given prescription causes. There
> is indeed a close relationship and I do know that most -1 myopes see
> 20/40 to 20/50 so this gives me an idea of how little blur -1 is(I
> have
> alot of -1 friends that go without glasses)
The only accurate method of knowing is with an eye exam so I can only
advocate that method of linking the snellen to the refractive index for
that individual.
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