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| Hi,
what's the difference between normal pre-surgery test and "personalized (or
customized) pre-surgery test"?
I got in touch with a clinic that sent me a document stating their
conditions, prices, etc. Normal test is 100 EUR, while personalized (or
customized) is 160 EUR.
What's the difference?
Mark
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| Tom Lucas 2006-07-27, 8:26 am |
| "mark" <jjoyce1973@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns980D930B8B8BCjjoyce1973hotmailcom@149.204.49.80...
> Hi,
>
> what's the difference between normal pre-surgery test and
> "personalized (or
> customized) pre-surgery test"?
>
> I got in touch with a clinic that sent me a document stating their
> conditions, prices, etc. Normal test is 100 EUR, while personalized
> (or
> customized) is 160 EUR.
>
> What's the difference?
>
> Mark
I would imagine that in the customised test they put you on a wavefront
scanner to do a full map of the cornea whereas with the normal then they
just do a thorough eye exam. There are plenty of places you can go that
don't charge for the consultation so I wouldn't be putting my hand in my
pocket unless there was a very good reason.
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| Trulytelling@yahoo.com 2006-07-27, 9:26 pm |
| Mark,
Before you do anything drastic to your corneas (like letting a surgeon
with a big financial incentive to lure you in slice them and vaporize
them with a laser) please go read for a bit at
http://lasikflap.com/forum
All forms of corneal refractive surgery damage corneal nerves which can
lead to permanent dry eye (A MISERABLE CONDITION), thin and weaken your
cornea, and INDUCE corneal distortions that can't be fixed with
glasses. Even those 'custom' treatments induce distortions in your
cornea.
Those customized treatments are a hoax. They don't fix the aberrations
you have, typically, and give you new ones. Normal people have such low
levels of higher order aberrations they don't need fixing with
wavefront. The only thing customized is the price, jacked up JUST for
YOU.
I know people who have had their vision RUINED with wavefront. Going to
an 'experienced' surgeon is no guarantee of safety. There are patients
out there legally blinded by the supposed 'best'.
Contact lens technology is really improving. Have you tried contact
lenses?
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| serebel 2006-07-27, 9:26 pm |
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Trulytelling@yahoo.com wrote:
> Mark,
>
> Before you do anything drastic to your corneas (like letting a surgeon
> with a big financial incentive to lure you in slice them and vaporize
> them with a laser) please go read for a bit at
>
> lead to permanent dry eye (A MISERABLE CONDITION), thin and weaken your
> cornea, and INDUCE corneal distortions that can't be fixed with
> glasses. Even those 'custom' treatments induce distortions in your
> cornea.
>
> Those customized treatments are a hoax. They don't fix the aberrations
> you have, typically, and give you new ones. Normal people have such low
> levels of higher order aberrations they don't need fixing with
> wavefront. The only thing customized is the price, jacked up JUST for
> YOU.
>
> I know people who have had their vision RUINED with wavefront. Going to
> an 'experienced' surgeon is no guarantee of safety. There are patients
> out there legally blinded by the supposed 'best'.
>
No surprise to see the loony tunes chime in with the sky is falling.
"Hoax", the only hoax is that how these loons lie about everything.
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| Ragnar 2006-07-28, 8:29 am |
| Mark.. you need to ignore Trulytelling completely.
Better yet.. have your surgeon go take a look at www.lasikflap.com and
see how he reacts.
I did that with my surgeon and lasikdisaster and he was shaking his
head and said there was not one correct statement on that entire
website.
On 27 Jul 2006 17:36:42 -0700, Trulytelling@yahoo.com wrote:
>Mark,
>
>Before you do anything drastic to your corneas (like letting a surgeon
>with a big financial incentive to lure you in slice them and vaporize
>them with a laser) please go read for a bit at
>
>http://lasikflap.com/forum
>
>All forms of corneal refractive surgery damage corneal nerves which can
>lead to permanent dry eye (A MISERABLE CONDITION), thin and weaken your
>cornea, and INDUCE corneal distortions that can't be fixed with
>glasses. Even those 'custom' treatments induce distortions in your
>cornea.
>
>Those customized treatments are a hoax. They don't fix the aberrations
>you have, typically, and give you new ones. Normal people have such low
>levels of higher order aberrations they don't need fixing with
>wavefront. The only thing customized is the price, jacked up JUST for
>YOU.
>
>I know people who have had their vision RUINED with wavefront. Going to
>an 'experienced' surgeon is no guarantee of safety. There are patients
>out there legally blinded by the supposed 'best'.
>
>Contact lens technology is really improving. Have you tried contact
>lenses?
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Trulytelling@yahoo.com said:
> Mark,
>
> Before you do anything drastic to your corneas (like letting a surgeon
> with a big financial incentive to lure you in slice them and vaporize
> them with a laser) please go read for a bit at
>
> http://lasikflap.com/forum
Its a good idea for Mark to be informed of the risks. I am not
anti-lasik so I am not gonna tell Mark what to do, only he can decide.
Its just a good idea to research so a good decision can be made.
> All forms of corneal refractive surgery damage corneal nerves which can
> lead to permanent dry eye (A MISERABLE CONDITION), thin and weaken your
> cornea, and INDUCE corneal distortions that can't be fixed with
> glasses. Even those 'custom' treatments induce distortions in your
> cornea.
Dry eyes appear to be commonplace after lasik(prk is more forgiving) so
people with existing dry eyes arent candidates unless they consider
IOLs. Those with thin corneas likewise arent candidates. Youd be
supprised even wavefront induces more aberrations, I was when I first
learned this.
> Those customized treatments are a hoax. They don't fix the aberrations
> you have, typically, and give you new ones. Normal people have such low
> levels of higher order aberrations they don't need fixing with
> wavefront. The only thing customized is the price, jacked up JUST for
> YOU.
Customized is more forgiving than standard. Some people do have
significent HOA's on their virgin corneas so you may actually end up
with only a slight additional increase after wavefront. Those with
pristine, nearly aberration free corneas end up with lots of
aberrations.
> I know people who have had their vision RUINED with wavefront. Going to
> an 'experienced' surgeon is no guarantee of safety. There are patients
> out there legally blinded by the supposed 'best'.
There is a calculated risk only Mark can decide if its "worth" it. I
wish him luck in his decision 
> Contact lens technology is really improving. Have you tried contact
> lenses?
They arent risk free either, but safer than lasik. Also alot of people
cant tolerate contacts very well, just ask Ragnar. I also hate contacts
and wear glasses instead. I am getting atropine next week to see how
myopic I really am under cycloplegia, hopefully its much less than my
manifest. This will make my life alot easier to be something like a -3
instead of -5 or near that.
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| serebel 2006-07-29, 2:28 am |
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Ace wrote:
>
> Dry eyes appear to be commonplace after lasik(prk is more forgiving) so
> people with existing dry eyes arent candidates unless they consider
> IOLs. Those with thin corneas likewise arent candidates. Youd be
> supprised even wavefront induces more aberrations, I was when I first
> learned this.
>
Wrong!
>
> Customized is more forgiving than standard. Some people do have
> significent HOA's on their virgin corneas so you may actually end up
> with only a slight additional increase after wavefront. Those with
> pristine, nearly aberration free corneas end up with lots of
> aberrations.
Also very wrong!
>
>
> There is a calculated risk only Mark can decide if its "worth" it. I
> wish him luck in his decision
Total lie.
>
>
> They arent risk free either, but safer than lasik. Also alot of people
> cant tolerate contacts very well, just ask Ragnar. I also hate contacts
> and wear glasses instead. I am getting atropine next week to see how
> myopic I really am under cycloplegia, hopefully its much less than my
> manifest. This will make my life alot easier to be something like a -3
> instead of -5 or near that.
More bull and who cares what you are going to do?
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