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serebel

2006-07-23, 9:25 pm


The above post is total crap. The retard is just regurgitating
"flappie" garbage.

Ace

2006-07-24, 2:25 am


serebel wrote:
> The above post is total crap. The retard is just regurgitating
> "flappie" garbage.



In defense of lasik and prk, hopefully oneday in the future, they find
a way to actually *remove* aberrations without inducing lots more
aberrations. What they need is a laser a micron in size because thats
how small the aberrations are. Todays flying spot laser is half a
milimeter and only good for refractive errors.

Ace

2006-07-25, 2:27 am


Ragnar wrote:
> You have a very thick skull.. let's try this again..
>
> To correct the refractive error in the eye, wavefront intentionally
> creates "aberrations" which re-direct the light coming into the eye to
> focus upon the retina. The aberrations compensate for the other
> errors in the shape of the eye that cannot be modified.
>
> Do you get it now?




Then explain why all forms of lasik induce aberrations and if you say
aberrations are not a bad thing then *why* are people choosing
wavefront? Also why are all the websites speaking against high order
aberrations as a bad thing if you disagree? You are confusing high
order aberrations with low order aberrations. Low order aberrations are
sphere and cylindar which lasik induces in the opposite direction to
correct your refractive error. High order aberrations are NEVER good.
Its like the aberrations in an old pair of banged up scratched glasses.

Ragnar

2006-07-25, 8:26 am

do you just make this stuff up?

Actually.. the LASIK procedre is just about the ONLY way to REMOVE the
most severe and common aberration known as ASTIGMATISM you idiot.

And as for "all the websites speaking against HOA"... what websites
might that be? Lasikfraud, lasikflap, lasiksucks,
lasikmademydickshrink, lasikholocaust ?


You don't have a clue of what you speak of. Go flip some burgers.

On 24 Jul 2006 20:28:49 -0700, "Ace" <acemanvx@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>Ragnar wrote:
>
>
>
>Then explain why all forms of lasik induce aberrations and if you say
>aberrations are not a bad thing then *why* are people choosing
>wavefront? Also why are all the websites speaking against high order
>aberrations as a bad thing if you disagree? You are confusing high
>order aberrations with low order aberrations. Low order aberrations are
>sphere and cylindar which lasik induces in the opposite direction to
>correct your refractive error. High order aberrations are NEVER good.
>Its like the aberrations in an old pair of banged up scratched glasses.

Ace

2006-07-25, 8:26 am


Ragnar wrote:
> do you just make this stuff up?
>
> Actually.. the LASIK procedre is just about the ONLY way to REMOVE the
> most severe and common aberration known as ASTIGMATISM you idiot.
>
> And as for "all the websites speaking against HOA"... what websites
> might that be? Lasikfraud, lasikflap, lasiksucks,
> lasikmademydickshrink, lasikholocaust ?
>
>
> You don't have a clue of what you speak of. Go flip some burgers.




astigmatism is a low order aberration. I was talking about *high* order
aberrations. Of course lasik removes astigmatism, but it makes high
order aberrations worse. high order aberrations are sphere, coma,
trefoil, tetrafoil, pentafoil, secondary astigmatism, etc lots of
polynominals. They are the reason why most humans see only 20/20,
20/25, even 20/30 with glasses. Some humans have less aberrations and
can see very well like 20/15. Do away with every aberration and humans
will see like a hawk in the day and like an owl(almost?) at night!

Ragnar

2006-07-25, 9:25 pm

Here's some more news for you... low order aberrations are the ones
that really matter. HOAs are trivial by comparison.

A low order aberration is like a mountain.. whereas a high order
aberration is like a molehill.

On 25 Jul 2006 02:00:20 -0700, "Ace" <acemanvx@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>Ragnar wrote:
>
>
>
>astigmatism is a low order aberration. I was talking about *high* order
>aberrations. Of course lasik removes astigmatism, but it makes high
>order aberrations worse. high order aberrations are sphere, coma,
>trefoil, tetrafoil, pentafoil, secondary astigmatism, etc lots of
>polynominals. They are the reason why most humans see only 20/20,
>20/25, even 20/30 with glasses. Some humans have less aberrations and
>can see very well like 20/15. Do away with every aberration and humans
>will see like a hawk in the day and like an owl(almost?) at night!

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