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| serebel 2006-04-17, 1:25 am |
| Typical self diagnosis from Ace.
avoidlasik (Ace)
sorry to hear of her bad experience! Has she tried glasses or RGP
contacts? what was her pre-op pescription and her pescription now?
Surgeons lie and exaggerate about how well your seeing. I never had
lasik, wont have lasik but was told I was seeing 20/20 with glasses
even though I only guessed one or two letters on that line! I am more
in the region of 20/30. I also understand whats its like not to see
perfect, I have irregular astigmastim and high order aberrations, more
so in the right eye. Lasik would make everything much worse, especially
at night
How would a virgin cornea have irregular astig and be bothered by
HOA's? Apparently he's an idiot as well as a hypocondriac.
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Lasik damages every eye! Lasik induces more aberrations, even so called
"wavefront!" Stick to glasses!
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| Like this guy, I also have irregular astigmastim and high order
aberrations. Everyone has HOA's but some people have more than others.
Look this up in google.
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| Ragnar 2006-04-17, 1:25 am |
| Looking things up in Google is not a bad idea... but understanding
what you look up is still an issue. AT this point, you seem to be
very naive - innocently.. but annoyingly.
Here's a place to begin your journey to wisdom. First, instead of
condemning things you don't have knowlege of, determine what your own
problem is and build from there.
If you have irregular astigmatism and HOA, then you should know that
glasses, nor soft contacts, nor IOLs, nor the Bates method are going
to be effective for you. Your options are refractive surgery OR rigid
contacts. You obviously have some bias against surgery - I don't
know why - but if that is the case, you need to start with RGP lenses
which are fairly cheap. If you do well with them, THEN consider Ortho
K.
Until then, you can take a break from posting your nonsense.
Frankly, the only solution that has a chance of being free of side
effects enough to please you is the surgical option.
On 16 Apr 2006 18:36:28 -0700, "Ace" <acemanvx@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Like this guy, I also have irregular astigmastim and high order
>aberrations. Everyone has HOA's but some people have more than others.
>Look this up in google.
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| serebel 2006-04-18, 1:26 am |
| Ace wrote:
"Like this guy, I also have irregular astigmastim and high order
aberrations. Everyone has HOA's but some people have more than others.
Look this up in google."
Look you simpleton, only an eye doctor can diagnose irreg astig or
bothersome HOA. Doing a google search is useless. Are you really this
stupid, Ace?
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| My doctor diagonized me with those symptoms after checking my
topography. That and I only correct to 20/30 is proof.
RGP contacts probably will get me 20/20 or even 20/15 but ill need the
customized z-wave wavefront ones so they fit me right and correct me
properly. Those cost $300 per pair but its $600 to make them, $300 each
replacement. If my eyes change, I may need to spend another $600 for
all the testing to make a new design. Frankly wavefront glasses is
looking good or perhaps there will be something new or maybe lasik will
be so advanced and as safe as contacts that even the malcontents will
reccomend it like they reccomend glasses and contacts and orthoK now.
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| Ragnar 2006-04-18, 11:26 am |
| I'm more interested in hearing the diagnosis you get from your
psychiatrist.
On 17 Apr 2006 20:22:14 -0700, "Ace" <acemanvx@yahoo.com> wrote:
>My doctor diagonized me with those symptoms after checking my
>topography. That and I only correct to 20/30 is proof.
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>RGP contacts probably will get me 20/20 or even 20/15 but ill need the
>customized z-wave wavefront ones so they fit me right and correct me
>properly. Those cost $300 per pair but its $600 to make them, $300 each
>replacement. If my eyes change, I may need to spend another $600 for
>all the testing to make a new design. Frankly wavefront glasses is
>looking good or perhaps there will be something new or maybe lasik will
>be so advanced and as safe as contacts that even the malcontents will
>reccomend it like they reccomend glasses and contacts and orthoK now.
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Ace wrote:
> RGP contacts probably will get me 20/20 or even 20/15 but ill need the
> customized z-wave wavefront ones so they fit me right and correct me
> properly. Those cost $300 per pair but its $600 to make them, $300 each
> replacement. If my eyes change, I may need to spend another $600 for
> all the testing to make a new design. Frankly wavefront glasses is
> looking good or perhaps there will be something new or maybe lasik will
> be so advanced and as safe as contacts that even the malcontents will
> reccomend it like they reccomend glasses and contacts and orthoK now.
I was curious about this comment regarding 'wavefront glasses', so I
did a quick search and came up with:
http://vision.about.com/od/contactl...sses/a/izon.htm
Its very light on details, but essentially this tech was announced last
fall. I have no idea how it works. It would seem that your glasses
would have to be somehow locked to your head in a set position to
correct such higher order aberrations. Does anyone actually sell these
things? What happens if you scratch such precise lenses?
Also Ace, remember that decent frames will cost you another $300-400 on
top of the lenses... so you are looking at a cost of around $1k per set
of glasses... each time your prescription changes. Or you break/lose
them. Wavefront contacts seem to make a lot more sense to me although I
don't know if these are available as wavefront-designed AND daily wear.
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| Ragnar 2006-04-19, 1:25 am |
| The idea of wavefront glasses is just a gimmick.
On 18 Apr 2006 08:38:26 -0700, "Ryan" <nerfgun@gmail.com> wrote:
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>Ace wrote:
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>I was curious about this comment regarding 'wavefront glasses', so I
>did a quick search and came up with:
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>http://vision.about.com/od/contactl...sses/a/izon.htm
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>Its very light on details, but essentially this tech was announced last
>fall. I have no idea how it works. It would seem that your glasses
>would have to be somehow locked to your head in a set position to
>correct such higher order aberrations. Does anyone actually sell these
>things? What happens if you scratch such precise lenses?
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>Also Ace, remember that decent frames will cost you another $300-400 on
>top of the lenses... so you are looking at a cost of around $1k per set
>of glasses... each time your prescription changes. Or you break/lose
>them. Wavefront contacts seem to make a lot more sense to me although I
>don't know if these are available as wavefront-designed AND daily wear.
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