Lasik Eyes Surgery - Hagele subsidizes his own critics

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Hagele subsidizes his own critics

Trulytelling@yahoo.com

2006-02-25, 9:55 pm

People who elect to allow ads on their sites don't get to choose the
ads that show up... they are matched by content using a key words
system. What amuses me is that Glenn is in effect PAYING Cofer or
Keller, and everybody is currently having fun going to
Lasikdisaster.com to click on Glenn's ad as many times as possible so
that Glenn will get a really big bill. From which Cofer/Keller make
money...it's a beautiful thing!

How much does Google bill you per click, Glenn? Ten bucks? Twenty
bucks? More?

Glenn Hagele is threatening to publish the divorce records of Sandy
Keller who has not been divorced - while he himself had a very messy
divorce that IS a matter of public record.

And Glenn Hagele is threatening to publish Sandy Keller's bad business
dealings... which are nonexistent. While Glenn Hagele himself went
bankrupt and had some serious problems with the IRS, all of which ARE a
matter of public record.

How smart is this?

Glenn Hagele claims that Brent Hanson is going to Jail next December
(?) What kind of nonsense will he come up with for an excuse when this
doesn't happen? We should start a countdown and place wagers on what
Glenn Hagele will do to wriggle out of this one...

CR$QA surgeons must feel confident that they are in Glenn's capable
hands. He demonstrates such good judgement. If I were a refractive
surgeon searching for a bastion of credibility to attest to my
competence, Glenn would surely be my man.

Glenn - USAEyes.org

2006-02-25, 9:55 pm

On 24 Feb 2006 18:26:50 -0800, Trulytelling@yahoo.com wrote:

>Re: Hagele subsidizes his own critics

Yes Nell, that is the price one must pay to have one's own message on
LasikDisaster.com. But since it is just about the only way (short of
litigation) that I can mitigate at least some of the damage caused, it
seems like a reasonable investment.

>People who elect to allow ads on their sites don't get to choose the
>ads that show up... they are matched by content using a key words
>system.

I don't use a keyword system for our ad on LasikDisaster.com. That ad
is specific to LasikDisaster.com and only for LasikDisaster.com.

>What amuses me is that Glenn is in effect PAYING Cofer or
>Keller, and everybody is currently having fun going to
>Lasikdisaster.com to click on Glenn's ad as many times as possible so
>that Glenn will get a really big bill. From which Cofer/Keller make
>money...it's a beautiful thing!

It appears that you have direct knowledge of what is called
click-through fraud. That will undoubtedly be handy later.

Every IP address of every person who clicks through the Google ad is
recorded, so I'll have no trouble tracing back to whomever and
wherever. I'm sure that certain employers will be very interested to
hear the justification from their employee for click-through fraud on
company bandwidth.

>How much does Google bill you per click, Glenn? Ten bucks? Twenty
>bucks? More?

That is a state secret! 8^)

>Glenn Hagele is threatening to publish the divorce records of Sandy
>Keller who has not been divorced - while he himself had a very messy
>divorce that IS a matter of public record.

Read my statement, Nell. I made no such threat.

>And Glenn Hagele is threatening to publish Sandy Keller's bad business
>dealings... which are nonexistent.

Half true. I did not make such a threat, and bad dealings do existent.

>While Glenn Hagele himself went
>bankrupt and had some serious problems with the IRS, all of which ARE a
>matter of public record.

And I have responded to both issues, but do you see that guy sharing
your home? He's bankrupted twice.

>How smart is this?

How smart is it to share one's home with someone who makes threats
against people that require a restraining order, lies (proven,
documented), defames, is scheduled to go to jail in a few months, and
has a weapon permit in two states?

>Glenn Hagele claims that Brent Hanson is going to Jail next December
>(?)

I don't claim it, Nell. The court in Texas does.
http://glennhagele.com/brenthanson/..._Jail_Order.pdf

>What kind of nonsense will he come up with for an excuse when this
>doesn't happen?

It is not my responsibility whether or not he surrenders to the court
as ordered. That's up to Hanson.

>We should start a countdown and place wagers on what
>Glenn Hagele will do to wriggle out of this one...

I've got nothing to wiggle out of. The court's order is clear and it
is that order to which I refer. It is the court's decision if Hanson
should be in jail, not mine. I'm just reporting the fact.

>CR$QA surgeons must feel confident that they are in Glenn's capable
>hands. He demonstrates such good judgement.

Well, I can only take credit for demonstrating the judgment of the
court.

>If I were a refractive
>surgeon searching for a bastion of credibility to attest to my
>competence, Glenn would surely be my man.

I'll assume that is sarcasm. Hard to tell with the Internet. If not,
thanks.

Glenn Hagele
Executive Director
USAEyes.org

"Consider and Choose With Confidence"

Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org

http://www.USAEyes.org
http://www.ComplicatedEyes.org

I am not a doctor.

serebel

2006-02-25, 9:55 pm

Now if you start advertising on "lasikflap", SE, or LME, or even
Minarik's site, "you da man!"

Ragnar

2006-02-25, 9:55 pm

I find it interesting that these malcontents have their silly
playgrounds where they can freely post nonsense.. yet they keep coming
back here.

On 24 Feb 2006 19:53:30 -0800, "serebel" <serebel@aol.com> wrote:

>Now if you start advertising on "lasikflap", SE, or LME, or even
>Minarik's site, "you da man!"

Sandy

2006-03-22, 4:20 pm

How's your vision these days, Christopher/Ragnar? I recall that you
were having issues way back when you joined this group, and even
scanned your topographies and asked DrG to evaluate them for you. I
would guess your interest in this group is sustained by your own
less-than-perfect LASIK result. Having that wavefront enhancement you
were hoping for any time soon, or are you still eating dog food in
order to save up the cash?

Ragnar

2006-03-22, 4:20 pm

You are some insane hellhound. My vision is spectacular by the way.

As for the one eye that might benefit further from a wavefront
enhancement... wavefront was not available at the time I had my
surgery done. Since my eyes were 20/800 and virtually blind before
surgery, perfection was not expected. One eye DID come out
astonishingly perfect. My eyes are extremely myopic - so much so that
I was almost unable to have surgery.
LASIK essentially gave me normal vision when I used to be virtually
blind.

Thanks again for asking witch.

On 6 Mar 2006 21:51:31 -0800, "Sandy" <sandy@savvysneaks.com> wrote:

>How's your vision these days, Christopher/Ragnar? I recall that you
>were having issues way back when you joined this group, and even
>scanned your topographies and asked DrG to evaluate them for you. I
>would guess your interest in this group is sustained by your own
>less-than-perfect LASIK result. Having that wavefront enhancement you
>were hoping for any time soon, or are you still eating dog food in
>order to save up the cash?

Sandy

2006-03-22, 4:20 pm

"Virtually blind", huh? Now why doesn't Hagele take his usual
self-righteous offense to a statement like that?

I have trouble with calling someone with correctible vision--no matter
how bad--"legally blind" and I think it's very misleading when surgeons
sell LASIK by stating that they've brought someone from "legally blind"
to "having their life back again".

serebel

2006-03-22, 4:20 pm

What's misleading to Keller really doesn't matter.
Going from needing correction to no longer needing is miraculous.

serebel

2006-03-22, 4:20 pm

What's misleading to Keller really doesn't matter.
Going from needing correction to no longer needing is miraculous.

Brent Hanson - LASIKFRAUD.com

2006-03-22, 4:20 pm

"Glenn Hagele is threatening to publish the divorce records of Sandy
Keller who has not been divorced - while he himself had a very messy
divorce that IS a matter of public record. "

Correction, his divorce is not a matter of public record. I talked to
a document retrieval service today and they said the files are sealed
due to "paternity issues", whatever that means.

Perhaps Hagele can enlighten us on the details of his family tree.

Ragnar

2006-03-22, 4:20 pm

To drive, one must see at least 20/40 out of one eye. That
requirement is not very well enforced though.

Legally blind is being 20/200 or worse with correction. In other
words, the best that person can see with all methods of correciton is
20/200.

My pre-lasik vision was 20/800 which is virtually blind - however not
legally blind since with correction I could see much better. My point
is that everytime I would take out my contacts for whatever reason, I
was essentially blind. No more of that with LASIK.

My biggest eye problem now is allergies due to the pollen in the air.
There is a toxic tree that sheds pollen near my residence in someone
else's yard. The tree is a known health hazard and it is illegal to
own or plant them. There were 8 of them around here.. and I forced
the county to remove 7 of them. The 8th one is on property where the
owner refused to allow the county to remove the tree - and they didn't
fight her on it. That owner and his wife are now both dead due to
respiratory failure even though neither of them smoked.

Anyway.. that tree is pollinating the air and irritating my eyes. One
drop of Alcon Naphcon A clears up that problem within 5 seconds.

On 7 Mar 2006 17:49:35 -0800, "Sandy" <sandy@savvysneaks.com> wrote:

>"Virtually blind", huh? Now why doesn't Hagele take his usual
>self-righteous offense to a statement like that?
>
>I have trouble with calling someone with correctible vision--no matter
>how bad--"legally blind" and I think it's very misleading when surgeons
>sell LASIK by stating that they've brought someone from "legally blind"
>to "having their life back again".

Ragnar

2006-03-22, 4:20 pm

What kind of a freak are you to be even looking up Hagele's ancient
divorce records? Are you his illegiti
mate son? Is that why you hate him so much?

I recall Keller itself mentioning a divorce of hers.. or was that
another joke of her's? I wonder how many titty bars Mr. Keller goes
to when visiting his "family" in Florida without her.

On 7 Mar 2006 20:11:31 -0800, "Brent Hanson - LASIKFRAUD.com"
<administrator@lasikcourt.com> wrote:

>"Glenn Hagele is threatening to publish the divorce records of Sandy
>Keller who has not been divorced - while he himself had a very messy
>divorce that IS a matter of public record. "
>
>Correction, his divorce is not a matter of public record. I talked to
>a document retrieval service today and they said the files are sealed
>due to "paternity issues", whatever that means.
>
>Perhaps Hagele can enlighten us on the details of his family tree.

Sandy

2006-03-22, 4:20 pm

>There is a toxic tree that sheds pollen near my residence in someone
else's yard.

Well, if you didn't live in someone else's yard, maybe you wouldn't
have these problems.

Ragnar

2006-03-22, 4:20 pm

That remaining tree killed the two people who lived under it. I live
a few hundred yards from it and it still bothers me.

I have some advice for people... whenever taking up residence
someplace... take note of trees in the neighborhood. They can often
be pollen factories. The trees I am talking about are actually toxic
- however these trees can not only be removed, the local government
will remove them for free. Oak trees are illegal to remove, and while
not toxic, a lot of people are allergic to the pollen they produce.

On 8 Mar 2006 09:34:21 -0800, "Sandy" <sandy@savvysneaks.com> wrote:

>else's yard.
>
>Well, if you didn't live in someone else's yard, maybe you wouldn't
>have these problems.

Sandy

2006-03-22, 4:21 pm

Ragnar wrote:
>That remaining tree killed the two people who lived under it. I live
a few hundred yards from it and it still bothers me.

So, it's just a matter of time... will you be requiring some shade this
summer?