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Glenn Hagele Publishes More False Accusations on the Internet
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Glenn - USAEyes.org wrote:
> Lasik Surgeons Advertise On LasikDisaster.com. Integrity For Sale
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> What can you see at LasikDisaster.com? Stories of patients with poor
> outcomes? Keller's sad, sad tale? Advertisements of Lasik surgeons?
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> Yea, that's right,, Sandy Keller and Paula Cofer can deride the
> refractive surgery industry, but when they can put some money in their
> pockets they don't have a problem with advertising that same industry.
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> Can you say, "hypocrite"?
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> Who advertises on LasikDisaster.com? Well, how about Lasik Vision
> Institute who promotes both 500,000 successful surgeries AND $299 per
> eye. Keller, how nice of you to let people who visit LasikDisaster.com
> know about those cheap Lasik deals.
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> Could this be why Keller published Dr. Rothman's curriculum vitae in
> response to Ragnar's complaints about him? Wouldn't want to interfere
> with your income now would you Keller?
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> You will also see Dr. Kawesch advertised there too! Naw, not that one,
> but his brother. Just click the ad on LasikDisaster.com and you are at
> the website of "Northern California's expert" in refractive surgery.
> Aww Cofer, it is swell of you to let LasikDisaster.com visitors know
> who is Northern California's expert.
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> Not to be outdone by Lasik Vision Institute, Keller/Cofer are making
> money off of Lasik Plus too. Learn all about their "state of the art
> technology & facilities". I guess Keller and Cofer were just kidding
> all those times they derided "Lasik Mills".
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> And look at THIS: Keller/Cofer even accept advertising from a CRSQA
> Certified Refractive Surgeon on LasikDisaster.com. Maybe our
> organization should buy an ad on LasikDisaster.com, since it is
> obviously for sale. I had better first look at that all important
> Return On Investment (ROI) that has Keller so concerned in regard to
> CRSQA certification.
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> So tell us Keller; come clean Cofer; how much are you making on
> selling ad space for Lasik? Hundreds? Thousands? Tens of thousands?
> How much does this income influence who you vilify and who you ignore?
> Gosh Keller, what are you going to do if Dr. Maloney buys an ad on
> LasikDisaster.com? Perhaps Dr. Hawley should sign up too. Good grief,
> Keller/Cofer, what are you going to do if CRSQA buys an ad on
> LasikDisaster.com?
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> It looks like that sanctimonious "I don't make anything off of Lasik"
> line is the window.
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> Bottom line: Keller/Cofer will sell their integrity for the few
> shekels an ad on LasikDisaster.com will bring in. Excuse my bluntness,
> but the term that comes to my mind rhymes with "boars".
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> Shame on you Keller. Shame, shame, shame.
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> Glenn Hagele
> Executive Director
> USAEyes.org
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> "Consider and Choose With Confidence"
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> Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org
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> http://www.USAEyes.org
> http://www.ComplicatedEyes.org
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> I am not a doctor.
I don't derive a single penny from anything that has to do with
http://www.lasikdisaster.com
Get your facts straight BEFORE you make accusations, Glenn. THINK
before you post. Your comments are disgusting, (not to mention
libelous), and quite frankly, so are you!
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| Glenn - USAEyes.org 2006-02-25, 9:53 pm |
| On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 16:03:01 GMT, Glenn - USAEyes.org
<glenn.hageleSTOPSPAM@USAEyes.org> wrote:
>You are such a liar, Keller. And an easily proven liar at that.
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>http://www.lasikdisaster.com/What_is_CRSQA.htm
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>And for when you rush to take down the advertising, the proof will
>remain at:
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>http://glennhagele.com/sandykeller/LasikDisasterAds.jpg
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>These ads have been her since long before Keller started denying
>ownership of LasikDisaster.com.
Come on Keller. Where are all your denials? Where is your righteous
indignation? Where are all your accusations that I have defamed you?
Probably in the same place your credibility has disappeared to.
And where is "Broken Eyes" (or whatever alias she is using today)
Paula Cofer? Where are her denials? Perhaps she is just willing to
accept in silence that she sells her credibility along with ads for
Lasik.
What a couple of hypocrites.
Glenn Hagele
Executive Director
USAEyes.org
"Consider and Choose With Confidence"
Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org
http://www.USAEyes.org
http://www.ComplicatedEyes.org
I am not a doctor.
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| I will repeat myself. I do not receive a single penny from
http://www.lasikdisaster.com. You have no idea when ownership/control
of the site changed, so give it a rest, Hagele. You don't even know
who owns it now, do you?
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| Ragnar 2006-02-25, 9:53 pm |
| Sure we do.. it didn't change at all. Cofer owns the two sites and
made them anonymous within days of Brent pointing out who owned those
sites.
Do you ever tell the truth about anything?
On 22 Feb 2006 12:40:55 -0800, "Sandy" <sandy@savvysneaks.com> wrote:
>I will repeat myself. I do not receive a single penny from
>http://www.lasikdisaster.com. You have no idea when ownership/control
>of the site changed, so give it a rest, Hagele. You don't even know
>who owns it now, do you?
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| Glenn - USAEyes.org 2006-02-25, 9:53 pm |
| On 22 Feb 2006 12:40:55 -0800, "Sandy" <sandy@savvysneaks.com> wrote:
>I will repeat myself. I do not receive a single penny from
>http://www.lasikdisaster.com. You have no idea when ownership/control
>of the site changed, so give it a rest, Hagele. You don't even know
>who owns it now, do you?
As for who admits to ownership of LasikDisaster.com and when, that
will be determined in a different forum. Considering the liabilities
there, I'm not surprised that Keller would attempt to distance
herself. Who is responsible for the authorship of the defamation at
LasikDisaster.com is another matter altogether. Again, that is
something for a different forum.
So now we see Keller attempting to absolve herself of all
responsibility for the website she created, which puts the
consequences squarely on Paula Cofer. Keller, are you saying Cofer is
solely responsible for what is on LasikDisaster.com? Did she accept
all liability for the website from you? On what date did this
momentous event occur, Keller? Did she specifically accept the legal
liability for the defamation you created, but she perpetuates? That
will be an interesting document to see.
If Keller wants to say only Cofer is making money off of Lasik ads at
LasikDisaster.com and only Cofer is responsible for the content at
LasikDisaster.com, then that's fine with me. Let's see you point the
finger at your accomplic-...er...buddy Cofer.
Glenn Hagele
Executive Director
USAEyes.org
"Consider and Choose With Confidence"
Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org
http://www.USAEyes.org
http://www.ComplicatedEyes.org
I am not a doctor.
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| Glenn Hagele, these are NOT the words of a gentleman:
"Glenn - USAEyes.org" <glenn.hageleSTOPSPAM@USAEyes.org> wrote in message
news:qk2pv1duq905ekv8qb1mqkmvnjllfo1jt8@4ax.com...
> You are such a liar, Keller. And an easily proven liar at that.
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| Glenn - USAEyes.org 2006-02-25, 9:54 pm |
| On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 22:11:14 -0500, "Wendy" <Wendy@nospam_ aol.com>
wrote:
>Glenn Hagele, these are NOT the words of a gentleman:
[vbcol=seagreen]
The problem, "Wendy" is that I am not talking about a lady.
Glenn Hagele
Executive Director
USAEyes.org
"Consider and Choose With Confidence"
Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org
http://www.USAEyes.org
http://www.ComplicatedEyes.org
I am not a doctor.
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| Like I posted in another thread, I have no way to access the site to
make any changes.
You didn't prove a thing.
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| Ragnar 2006-02-25, 9:54 pm |
| How does a gentleman describe a malicious liar such as Keller?
On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 22:11:14 -0500, "Wendy" <Wendy@nospam_ aol.com>
wrote:
>Glenn Hagele, these are NOT the words of a gentleman:
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| Glenn - USAEyes.org 2006-02-25, 9:54 pm |
| On 22 Feb 2006 23:30:34 -0800, "Sandy" <sandy@savvysneaks.com> wrote:
>Like I posted in another thread, I have no way to access the site to
>make any changes.
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>You didn't prove a thing.
I have proved that LasikDisaster.com, the website which Keller
created, the website that carries her story on its home page, the
website that she now desperately is attempting to distance herself
from, carries paid Lasik advertising.
Glenn Hagele
Executive Director
USAEyes.org
"Consider and Choose With Confidence"
Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org
http://www.USAEyes.org
http://www.ComplicatedEyes.org
I am not a doctor.
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| Unless one is blind, one can see that for themselves. Why do you try to
hard to prove something that doesn't need proving to begin with?
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| Glenn - USAEyes.org 2006-02-25, 9:54 pm |
| On 23 Feb 2006 10:19:55 -0800, "Sandy" <sandy@savvysneaks.com> wrote:
>Unless one is blind, one can see that for themselves. Why do you try to
>hard to prove something that doesn't need proving to begin with?
Because certain people go on and on and on and on and on about how
they are not responsible for what is on a website they created, are
included in, and continuously defend. Of course, you also don't bother
to say who - if not you - is responsible.
Glenn Hagele
Executive Director
USAEyes.org
"Consider and Choose With Confidence"
Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org
http://www.USAEyes.org
http://www.ComplicatedEyes.org
I am not a doctor.
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| Ragnar 2006-02-25, 9:54 pm |
| Well... one minor correction there.. Those websites were created for
her by Copher. People like Hanson know how ot create a website with
one hand tied behind his back and blindfolded - he's had a lot of
practice creating websites... a LOT of practice. Keller couldn't
create a website if her life depended on it.
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 17:42:14 GMT, Glenn - USAEyes.org
<glenn.hageleSTOPSPAM@USAEyes.org> wrote:
>On 22 Feb 2006 23:30:34 -0800, "Sandy" <sandy@savvysneaks.com> wrote:
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>I have proved that LasikDisaster.com, the website which Keller
>created, the website that carries her story on its home page, the
>website that she now desperately is attempting to distance herself
>from, carries paid Lasik advertising.
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>Glenn Hagele
>Executive Director
>USAEyes.org
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>"Consider and Choose With Confidence"
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>Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org
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>http://www.USAEyes.org
>http://www.ComplicatedEyes.org
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>I am not a doctor.
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| All I said was that I no longer own the website, have no access to it
nor control over it, and don't collect a penny from it. All of that is
true.
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| Oh, I don't know about that. Glenn states that I created the site....
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| Glenn - USAEyes.org 2006-02-25, 9:54 pm |
| On 23 Feb 2006 12:43:21 -0800, "Sandy" <sandy@savvysneaks.com> wrote:
>All I said was that I no longer own the website, have no access to it
>nor control over it, and don't collect a penny from it. All of that is
>true.
To quote myself: "Of course, you also don't bother to say who - if not
you - is responsible."
Glenn Hagele
Executive Director
USAEyes.org
"Consider and Choose With Confidence"
Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org
http://www.USAEyes.org
http://www.ComplicatedEyes.org
I am not a doctor.
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| Glenn - USAEyes.org 2006-02-25, 9:54 pm |
| On 23 Feb 2006 12:43:57 -0800, "Sandy" <sandy@savvysneaks.com> wrote:
>Oh, I don't know about that. Glenn states that I created the site....
Selective memory, Keller, or are you just trying to split hairs again?
The LasikDisaster.com website previously stated "This site is owned by
Sandy Keller" just below her photograph, but acknowledged "Website
design by Roger Davis, PhD."
http://web.archive.org/web/20040621...ikdisaster.com/
Glenn Hagele
Executive Director
USAEyes.org
"Consider and Choose With Confidence"
Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org
http://www.USAEyes.org
http://www.ComplicatedEyes.org
I am not a doctor.
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| You twist everything around. Christopher Ragnar is the one who keeps
writing that I didn't create the site. I was responding to him.
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| Glenn - USAEyes.org 2006-02-25, 9:54 pm |
| On 23 Feb 2006 15:02:35 -0800, "Sandy" <sandy@savvysneaks.com> wrote:
>You twist everything around. Christopher Ragnar is the one who keeps
>writing that I didn't create the site. I was responding to him.
Keller, read your own writing before you make meritless accusations
about me.
In your response to Ragnar you said, "Glenn states that I created the
site...."
You mentioned me by name. I responded factually. I realize facts are
not your strong suit, but don't complain that I'm twisting "everything
around".
Glenn Hagele
Executive Director
USAEyes.org
"Consider and Choose With Confidence"
Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org
http://www.USAEyes.org
http://www.ComplicatedEyes.org
I am not a doctor.
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| Oh my gosh!!! Glenn, you are nutso! Did you or did you not
acknowledge that I created http://www.lasikdisaster.com?
It was not an accusation! Christopher has gone on and on and on about
how I did not create that site and I was pointing out to him that even
YOU state that I did, hoping that would convince Christopher once and
for all that I DID CREATE THE SITE.
You know, this would be really sad if it weren't so darned funny. What
are you smokin'?
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| Glenn - USAEyes.org 2006-02-25, 9:54 pm |
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Keller, get a grip. Take a pill. Breathe in, breath out. Do whatever
it takes to come back to reality...at least for the time it takes you
to read this.
I responded you your statement, Keller, that mentioned me by name. I
factually responded that you had published on LasikDisaster.com just
below your photo that LasikDisaster.com was your website. I also
factually stated that design credit was given to Roger Davis.
Your response was to accused me of "twisting everything". I have not
twisted anything. I have only reiterated what you have said yourself.
I also provided a link to an archive of LasikDisaster.com to affirm my
statement.
Heavens Keller, you can't even handle it when I agree with you.
Glenn Hagele
Executive Director
USAEyes.org
"Consider and Choose With Confidence"
Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org
http://www.USAEyes.org
http://www.ComplicatedEyes.org
I am not a doctor.
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Glenn - USAEyes.org wrote:
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> These ads have been her since long before Keller started denying
> ownership of LasikDisaster.com.
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> Glenn Hagele
> Executive Director
> USAEyes.org
Exactly how long have they been there, Hagele?
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| Glenn - USAEyes.org 2006-02-25, 9:54 pm |
| On 23 Feb 2006 19:16:59 -0800, "Sandy" <sandy@savvysneaks.com> wrote:
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>Glenn - USAEyes.org wrote:
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>Exactly how long have they been there, Hagele?
You could tell us all right here and now. Why wait for the subpoena?
You could tell us when (if) you transferred ownership and
responsibility of LasikDisaster.com to someone else, who that someone
else is, and when the ads started.
That seems real simple, Keller.
Glenn Hagele
Executive Director
USAEyes.org
"Consider and Choose With Confidence"
Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org
http://www.USAEyes.org
http://www.ComplicatedEyes.org
I am not a doctor.
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