| Bassslapper 2006-10-19, 4:27 pm |
| Since I had the Lasik procedure done and have had much success, I have
really had no need to go out of my way to contact my surgeon or eye
doctor regarding what my prescriptions are. I give guestimates because
I am not going to jump on the phone and call to verify the exact
prescription just to post it here. They did tell me but, again, I
cannot with 100% certainty quote it exactly. Next time I get checked
out I'll obtain a copy.
Vision can fluctuate and I am sure the times I was faithful to NVI
showed me th most improvements but when I backed off things may have
regressed. It's like training for peak competition, that ideal may only
be temporairly attainable before regression to a more homeostatic
position occurs.
Your point of not getting Lasik because of potential complications vs.
cost are correct and dulely noted. My point was there is a cost
associated with any form of eye correction and anyone can present the
numbers in a light favorable to their arguement.
You need to experience Ortho-K firsthand to really get a feel for all
the pros and cons. It is not the utopia you seem to believe but I hope
it works for you. If you can tolerate Ortho-K it will be less of a
hassle then glasses but unfortunately there are a lot of "ifs" involved
and you won't know until you try it.
You prefer distance glasses to readers, I prefer the potential for
readers over distance. We agree to disagree. I do lots of things thaqt
require distance vision to where it is profoundly inconvenient and
annoying to wear glasses, more so then things I do up close. Given
that, I did what I felt I neede to do to rid myself of the
inconvenience of corrective eyeware.
The fact that you have the time to research previous posts to find out
what my quote vision was on a given day makes me wonder if you are
independently wealthy and have too much time on your hands  Your
resilience and passion are comendable but, speaking from personal
experience, after banging your frustrated head against the wall there
is only so much you can take before you finally give in. That is how it
was for me with myopia and Lasik. 6 years of NVI and 23 of myopia were
enough. I still do NVI for my strabismus but now I can see the beads on
the string.
Ace wrote:
> Bassslapper:
>
> Reading below, you last believed it to be at -2.5 which was low enough
> that you only wore glasses for driving. You *did* used to be -3.75 and
> -4.25 but NVI reduced your prescription. You should have your
> prescription records you got at your lasik clinic. Do you feel your
> vision got worse between the time you used NVI and the time you got
> lasik?
> My prescription is -5 and -4.5, worse than yours has ever been. If it
> was -2.5
> id be much happier. I know exactly what -2.5 vision is and for the
> matter, most other prescriptions. I have several pairs of older glasses
> to test this out. I am not sure if ill even be talking about orthoK if
> I was only -2.5 my dependency on glasses wouldnt be very high. At -1.5
> id only depend on glasses to drive and maybe watch movies.
>
>
>
> I know what presbyopia is like and even more so under cycloplegia. It
> becomes a problem for most people around the age 40 and I dont know a
> single 50 year old at plano that could see squat from near. I am glad I
> know what presbyopia is like, it puts me in the mindset and relization
> how valuable my near vision is. I can simply take my distance glasses
> off to read and eat. Yes im only 24 but presbyopia can happen well
> before 40 and I know a bunch of people like that. One college
> woman(about 20) wears progressives so she can see clearly to read, she
> said her doctor prescribed them to her when she begin to have trouble
> seeing from near. I told her I just take my glasses off to read rather
> than get progressives.
>
>
>
> If I can physically tolerate orthoK, the inconvinences is much
> preferred to full time glasses wear. Its either glasses or orthoK with
> todays techology. I would *not* need readers after orthoK because I
> will still be mildly myopic. I however will need glasses for driving. I
> read about 20x more than I drive so you can "see" its a good tradeoff.
> Mild myopia will keep me out of glasses at least 90% of the time like
> it did for you when you were -2.5(did your eyes get worse than that
> prior to your lasik?) I was supprised when you first mentioned you got
> lasik but I can see your reasons why, one of them comparing your UCVA
> vs. whatever lasik gave you. In my case, ill be comparing against
> orthoK and no I dont want to lose my near vision but orthoK cant and
> wont fully correct me and(so) its a nonissue.
>
>
>
> Lasik has a very long way to go. Theres 34 challenges to wavefront
> lasik that need to be met for lasik to be good for "prime time"
> Probably something else entirely will be out long before and lasik will
> just get abandoned alltogether like RK did. Being informed does not
> change the risks of lasik, it just lets you know and be aware of the
> risks. I dont accept the risks of lasik, if this means I must deal with
> glasses(or orthoK) for many, many more years, then be it. Way, way too
> much to risk with lasik to the point glasses look very good in
> comparsion. I guess you hate glasses ten times more than I do and you
> are far more tolerant of risks.
>
>
>
> Lasik here costs $4000 to $6000 for the "best" discount lasik would be
> $1000 to $2000 but at higher risk and more damage to the eyes, you cant
> place a price on your eyes. OrthoK is gonna cost around $1500 to $2000
> initally plus $300 a year or every other year for new retainer lenses
> because they wear out and my eyes may change a bit in that time.
> I can get glasses on the net very cheap. I already know orthoK is gonna
> end up costing more, but this is a fair price to pay for reduced
> glasses dependency. When I have the money, why not? Even the price of
> lasik doesnt dissaude me, its the risks and damage that does.
>
>
> The below is what you said in previous posts before you got lasik.
> Again I am supprised as you had expected to improve to -2 with NVI and
> only need glasses for driving.
>
>
>
> You should know your own prescription and your lasik surgeon(probably
> one of his technicians/optometrists) should have told you when he
> tested you prior to getting lasik. I have dug back in your posts and
> found this:
>
>
> I have done the same things you have and my behavioral OD thinks with
> persistence we can get to -2.0 diopters. BTW, my clear point using a
> ruler is about 15 inches. I am down to -2.50 and only wear glasses to
> drive.
>
>
> My vision flaots around -3.50 OS and -2.75 OD. My original
> prescriptions for lenses had me -4.25 OS and -3.75 OD so something
> positive has happened since I stopped wearing all forms of vision
> correction back in May of 2005. I do exercises and attend therapy to
> help with strabismus and focusing and maybe that has helped some with
> myopia. My mindset without my glasses is that I can still see, just not
>
> clearly at distances.
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