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| holdencain@yahoo.com 2005-07-31, 11:52 am |
| I live a couple hours from Richmond/Charlottesville...45mins from
Roanoke. I am looking for a top surgeon in the region. I am willing to
travel a few hrs for LASIK...even down to NC..Charlotte, Raleigh,
Winston... Any recomendations? All the major med centers are close
by...Duke, UNC, etc.
Thanks,
HC
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| Tabby 2005-07-31, 11:52 am |
| HI HC,
I know three professional people who had their eyes permanently damaged
by a major medical center you mentioned within the span of about a
month.
New research by the Mayo Clinic and Emory university show that LASIK
damages every eye. Perhaps you should explore some of the cooler
glasses frames that are recently on the market and spend the extra
2,500 on an unforgettable vacation.
I see worse with glasses after LASIK than I did before LASIK with
glasses. Much worse. My vision is a waking nightmare. Plus, my eyes
always hurt from the dry eye that was induced when they cut the corneal
nerves to make the LASIK flap. I will never have comfortable eyes or
comfortable vision again. I am not alone in this complaint... my
optometrist, my hairdresser, a lady at the vet's my dental hygenist...
business associates... have had problems with their LASIK. Don't do it.
It's a bad surgery.
holdencain@yahoo.com wrote:
> I live a couple hours from Richmond/Charlottesville...45mins from
> Roanoke. I am looking for a top surgeon in the region. I am willing to
> travel a few hrs for LASIK...even down to NC..Charlotte, Raleigh,
> Winston... Any recomendations? All the major med centers are close
> by...Duke, UNC, etc.
> Thanks,
> HC
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| Glenn - USAEyes.org 2005-07-31, 6:01 pm |
| Please do visit the websites posted by Hanson and read several
different pages. If you believe that the information there is
credible, accurate, and objective, then by all means DO NOT seek the
care of a surgeon certified by our organization.
Glenn Hagele
Executive Director
USAEyes.org
"Consider and Choose With Confidence"
Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org
http://www.USAEyes.org
http://www.ComplicatedEyes.org
I am not a doctor.
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| Holden 2005-07-31, 6:01 pm |
| Thanks for the replies.
The caveat to this is that I am not only a physician myself, but also a
surgeon(but not an eye surgeon...). I have several friends that are
opthamologists and have followed the technology for many years. My
interest comes from wanting to free myself from contacts/glasses as I
pursue an active lifestyle as an ironman triathlete and distance
swimmer. My concern, however, is that my vision would be affected such
that it would cause difficulty in the O.R....particularly needing to
see clearly at the O.R. table(waist level), and seeing the TV monitors
during laparoscopic cases. If I had a bad outcome it would be
DEVASTATING to my career.
That said, I have friends(MD's) that have had outstanding results and
say it is the "best thing I ever did...and I wish I had done it years
ago..."??
Surely a dilemma......
HC
Brent Hanson - LASIKFRAUD.com wrote:
> Avoid CRSQA "certified" surgeons, as these are among the worst surgeons
> in the industry.
>
> http://www.lasikfraud.com/crsqa_sur..._hazardous.html
> http://www.lasikinfocenter.net/Webp...s%20Webpage.htm
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| Holden. Read these words from a surgeon who had LASIK last year:
"I had "Custom Wavefront" LASIK on both eyes last January which puts me
at about eight months. I have severe dry eye and had to have both my
lower puncta cauterized three months ago. I've also developed erratic
visual acuity and loss of contrast sensitivity; glasses and contacts
can't help since refraction for me is a moving target. I also now have
terrible accommodative dysfunction which no one seems to be able to
explain. I guess this generates a lot of the eye pain that I
experience.
I am in a procedure-intensive specialty and I have some knowledge of
the informed consent. The consent form offered up by most refractive
surgeons is a sorry document which is guided by legal standards and
doesn't give the patient realistic information by which to make their
decision. I fully believe that that constitutes malpractice in the
setting of an elective procedure. There is also too much reliance on
patient satisfaction surveys and not enough emphasis on real science.
Sure, if you were trying to market an expensive surgical procedure,
glowing patient testimonials are better for the bottom line than
evidence-based medicine. Not even a marketing 101 flunkie would submit
a brochure which lists these real, possible outcomes...
-likely decrease in low light and night vision
-definite decrease in tear quantity and/or quality...no real way to
estimate if you will be symptomatic or not -eye fatigue and/ or eye
pain -unpredictable quantities of metallic debris left behind
-permanent denervation or paresthesias of the cornea -retinal
detachment or ischemia during surgery
If I would have suspected that any of the above outcomes were possible,
I'd be sitting here right now CLEARLY viewing my computer screen with
my old trustworthy glasses on.
Sorry for the long rant..I'm having a particularly bad "eye day"
today."
And read this:
"I genuinely believe that RS is a crime in its present form. LASIK may
be the worst of the offenders. It "cheapens" the field of medicine and
is perpetuated by greed. I don't consider refractive surgeons
colleagues...these people aren't healers. I've also given lots of
thought on how to reach potential victims of the RS industry. At least
patients deserve accurate information before making such a potentially
life-altering decision."
And this:
"It's frightening to think of all the potential complications which
haven't yet happened. There are thousands of people out there who will
follow you and I into the 5% heap...patients that the ophthalmologists
would like to forget...patients marketing types don't even consider
when pressing out their glossy brochures. I really feel for these
unsuspecting myopes. I'd give almost anything to have it back, to be in
the pre-surgical decision phase. Next best thing is to keep others
from making the catastrophic mistake that I did."
And this:
"My conjunctivochalasis didn't exist to any degree
before LASIK. With the severe dryness, my conjunctiva has thinned and
degenerated and has now become an additional contributing factor to my
eye pain."
And this:
"I'm still struggling with accommodation dysfunction and wild variance
in acuity. Night driving is Hell. I've developed alternate routes to
and from work based on day vs night driving. My night route puts me on
the roads with the brightest street lights but is the least direct."
And here is some more:
"Accidental altruism is what I call my experience. I couldn't
save myself from the bad outcome, but I am determined to save others
from it. I see that in you. Sure, everyone is angry with bad RS
outcomes, but it is clear to me that what sustains your passion is
altruism. The only way to avoid degraded low light vision, weakened
corneas,
and dry eyes is - "don't get LASIK!" If you bury this procedure,
you'll have created more healthy eyes than a city of ophthalmologists."
Another excerpt:
"I was using drops as prescribed every 1-2 hours for the first month.
At month two, I had severe eye pain, shitty vision, and accommodative
dysfunction. My lame refractive surgeon and lamer yet co-managing OD
said these were transient symptoms. At month six, they basically
abandoned my case because the transient nature of my symptoms seemed
more tenacious than they were able to deal with. I found a better OD
who tried everything to help with my accommodation problems. Reading
glasses just gave me horrendous headaches.( I love to read and this
"benefit" of LASIK has caused me great hardship). His diagnosis was
irregular astigmatism, accommodative spasm with gross refractive
fluctuations as a result of dry eye.
Christmas is tough. I'm coming up on my year anniversary of the char
and scar, sometimes referred to as LASIK."
Read on:
The medical board answers to no one.... the board's function is to
monitor, review and police substandard care and non-professional
behavior of the licensed physican. As a medical professional, I can
assure you that your butcher's actions are unethical. Well, any
ophthalmologist performing LASIK is unethical by reasonable standards."
More:
"I do find that eyestrain is now a way of life. The headaches
get me down sometimes.The OR is brutal since the relative humidity is
kept below 20% for infection control-so dryness is always an issue. I
blast in a couple of drops of Freshkote before a case. My colleagues
know about my ordeal with refractive surgery. I've managed to scare off
a number of potential LASIK candidates who've asked if I was pleased
with my results. My answer to that one usually renews their affection
for their glasses or contacts."
"I'm not religious by any means, but if there is a Hell, there is a
special place in it for Refractive surgeons.
I've been trying to understand the phenomenon of LASIK surgery's
tenacity despite all the clear indications that it should be abolished.
I believe that there are several key elements that refractive surgeons
consciously or inadvertently exploit. First, we all hated our glasses
and contact lenses. The promise of "perfect", unaided vision is so very
seductive. The lure took away much of my objectiveness so I was hearing
and reading only the propaganda and little of the real science. The
dense marketing overwhelms the objective information on RS. Next,
vision is poorly quantitated. Visual acuity is a subjective report by
the patient..."yeah, one looks clearer than two...wait, let me see two
again". No none really assesses how light is refracted by the anterior
eye then interpreted by the retina and brain. The optics of the human
eye are not static either. So the patient, ecstatic to be free of
lenses, believes he or she is now seeing great just because the 20/20
line can be resolved without glasses. Never mind the loss of contrast
sensitivity, loss of night acuity, loss of accommodation, corneal
derangement, dry eye...........etc. Now you have a population of LASIK
patients who want to believe their vision has been improved. They go on
to be poster children for LASIK and tell their friends and the vicious
cycle perpetuates. The "1%" of us that get the complications are
written off as unlucky bastards. Like the crazy aunt in the basement,
no one wants to acknowledge us because of our small numbers. After all,
would a reasonable person avoid going outside because of the
infinitesimally small risk of being hit by lightening? That's what we
are up against.
The FDA is a joke. They obstruct good medications, devices and
procedures and seem to bless the crap. Physicians on those panels are
notoriously the bottom 5% of their medical school classes. Most
couldn't critically read a peer reviewed journal if their lives
depended on it. It may take a class action lawsuit to stop the
butchering of eyes. [Deleted name of physician's lasik surgeon] is big
here in [deleted city of surgeon's residence]...the TLC equivalent.
What about this- "LASIK special $499, red-tipped cane included!" Or
maybe "LASIC-Lost Acuity Since I Came." It would get some righteous
publicity.
Getting physicians to organize a campaign might be a start. Let's get
the PhD's involved too.
I do have a wonderful wife who has helped me through all this. I don't
think she can ever comprehend the magnitude of the damage LASIK has
caused me. She has witnessed my decline into the darkest depression
that I have ever experienced. I do understand what [deleted name of
University of Michigan Psychiatrist who committed suicide in 2004 over
his bad LASIK outcome] was dealing with. I believe that I came
frighteningly close to his fate."
And read this:
"I was contemplating life in general today. It's amazing how
drastically
the LASIK has altered my life. I know you are experiencing that as
well. I realize that for me, I'm waging two battles. The obvious one is
the post-LASIK eye damage with all the associated treatments and daily
misery. But possibly more debilitating is the way that this outcome has
screwed up my psyche. At first, pure regret and anger wore me down
until I was clinically depressed. Then medication helped me out of that
dark state but I haven't yet regained my previous self. I still feel
kind of dazed. Have you felt this? It seems everything about my daily
experience has recentered on my eyes and vision. If my eyes feel better
one day, it's a good day. If I'm seeing particularly bad one day,
getting through a day is Hell. Every activity from reading to driving
at night reminds me of what I once had but have no more. I hate having
my mental state and moods hard-wired to my eyes...know what I mean?"
More:
"You are more than welcome to use anonymous excerpts from my emails. If
we can save a single potential LASIK victim, we've given someone an
invaluable gift for life."
And please read this pearl of wisdom:
One of the things that really irritated me about USA eyes and LME was
that idiot Glenn Hagle (sp.?) What a bag man for the LASIK industry. He
tries to come off as some patient advocate but he shamelessly promotes
the butchers. His stupid disclaimer "I am not a doctor" at the end of
every posting should read "I am not in any way reputable." Patient's
with real injuries are simply referred to the "links". I watched a long
thread where some guy with serious complications was communicating with
Glenn. Glenn's advice was so pathetically worthless. Those
generic "links" and canned advice Glenn was touting were going to get
him nowhere, and might delay some needed intervention. Turns out that
the guy was sitting on an overlooked retinal detachment. NICE!"
On people who won't express dissatisfaction with bad LASIK outcomes:
""Too negative," now that's rich. Someone nearly blinds you, curses you
with unrelenting eye pain, and robs you of essential tears and you are
angry? I wouldn't pay much attention to the lemmings. After all, they
dilute the visible dissatisfaction with the procedure which allows more
victims to be injured."
On LASIK suicide:
"It really sucks about your friend's vision. Her dry eye sounds
miserable too. I know that pain all too well. LASIK will not only
damage your vision and ocular health, it can be poison to your psyche.
Her suicidal ideations ARE scary. I was there once. Looking back, I was
dangerously close. By telling you, she may be seeking help. I didn't
tell anyone. If she gets silent about it, it's time to worry."
More on LASIK suicide:
"Wow, the suicidal times seem like a dream now (nightmare of course). I
was really thinking about driving over to the [Deleted name of LASIK
surgeon] clinic in the early AM hours, putting a sign on the windshield
"NICE RESULTS [surgeon name deleted]", and blowing my brains out with a
pistol.
The media coverage would've dinged the bastard pretty good.
I actually had the sign made. I came
so close it now gives me the creeps to think about it. You are the only
one I've told that to. I'm like you though. There is a threshold of
debilitation above which I will not accept. That would be an unfair
life sentence."
" I spent five months in the deepest, major
depression. Only in the last month have I felt that I might not end up
as a suicide statistic. There were many, many nights where I would lie
down in bed at night, hoping for an arrythmia or ruptured cerebral
aneurysm to keep me from waking up to another day. Every morning when I
drove to work, I wished for a big truck to T-bone me in an
intersection...living was certainly more painful than dying. I first
though about inert gas asphyxiation with nitrogen, cheap, painless and
easy. I thought about carbon monoxide but levels from new cars with
catalytic converters isn't enough to give you more than a headache.
KCL, good if given through a central line, but caustic to veins...so
you inject it in an arm vein and get pain and a quickly clotted vein.
Later, I bought a gun, Glock 9mm.
It was the knowledge that I would destroy my wife's life that
kept me from aerating my skull. I was really messed up!
The one thing that the psychiatrists don't realize is that
nothing follows you around like your vision. We are constantly reminded
of the damage which wears your psyche down in the most effective, cruel
way. It takes extra effort and strength to come up out of that type of
depression."
On a movie theater experience after LASIK:
"My first post-LASIK movie experience sucked. I was in the nasty part
of my depression and went to see that pathetic film "The terminal."
The low light, ambient light aberrations were horrendous. I was so
dizzy from them that I barfed thirty minutes into the flick."
On vision after LASIK and pain:
"My irregular astigmatism seems to be minimized when my eyes are moist
with natural tears. If they are dry, my vision, day or night, stinks.
Night vision can be
really bad with halos. Dryness also gives my a wierd haze during the
day, as if I were looking through a glass of skim milk. The best
artificial tears don't alleviate this regardless of how often I use
them. Natural tears really resolve the haze.
I still have constant eye burning, but it's now a 5 rather than my
prior 9's. The accomodative spasm only occurs once a week or so,
usually after reading or a demanding case at work. Reading glasses are
a no-no. In an optimistic fugue a couple of days ago, I tried them on
to read and was rewarded with a Gozilla of a headache and really
blurred vision for about 24 hours."
Hey Holden, after reading about what happend to this surgeon,
do you still want LASIK? I know other physicians with bad LASIK
outcomes. One of them is on disability and is quite depressed years
after his botched surgery.
Holden wrote:[vbcol=seagreen]
> Thanks for the replies.
>
> The caveat to this is that I am not only a physician myself, but also a
> surgeon(but not an eye surgeon...). I have several friends that are
> opthamologists and have followed the technology for many years. My
> interest comes from wanting to free myself from contacts/glasses as I
> pursue an active lifestyle as an ironman triathlete and distance
> swimmer. My concern, however, is that my vision would be affected such
> that it would cause difficulty in the O.R....particularly needing to
> see clearly at the O.R. table(waist level), and seeing the TV monitors
> during laparoscopic cases. If I had a bad outcome it would be
> DEVASTATING to my career.
> That said, I have friends(MD's) that have had outstanding results and
> say it is the "best thing I ever did...and I wish I had done it years
> ago..."??
>
> Surely a dilemma......
>
> HC
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Brent Hanson - LASIKFRAUD.com wrote:
| |
|
| Holden. Read these words from a surgeon who had LASIK last year:
"I had "Custom Wavefront" LASIK on both eyes last January which puts me
at about eight months. I have severe dry eye and had to have both my
lower puncta cauterized three months ago. I've also developed erratic
visual acuity and loss of contrast sensitivity; glasses and contacts
can't help since refraction for me is a moving target. I also now have
terrible accommodative dysfunction which no one seems to be able to
explain. I guess this generates a lot of the eye pain that I
experience.
I am in a procedure-intensive specialty and I have some knowledge of
the informed consent. The consent form offered up by most refractive
surgeons is a sorry document which is guided by legal standards and
doesn't give the patient realistic information by which to make their
decision. I fully believe that that constitutes malpractice in the
setting of an elective procedure. There is also too much reliance on
patient satisfaction surveys and not enough emphasis on real science.
Sure, if you were trying to market an expensive surgical procedure,
glowing patient testimonials are better for the bottom line than
evidence-based medicine. Not even a marketing 101 flunkie would submit
a brochure which lists these real, possible outcomes...
-likely decrease in low light and night vision
-definite decrease in tear quantity and/or quality...no real way to
estimate if you will be symptomatic or not -eye fatigue and/ or eye
pain -unpredictable quantities of metallic debris left behind
-permanent denervation or paresthesias of the cornea -retinal
detachment or ischemia during surgery
If I would have suspected that any of the above outcomes were possible,
I'd be sitting here right now CLEARLY viewing my computer screen with
my old trustworthy glasses on.
Sorry for the long rant..I'm having a particularly bad "eye day"
today."
And read this:
"I genuinely believe that RS is a crime in its present form. LASIK may
be the worst of the offenders. It "cheapens" the field of medicine and
is perpetuated by greed. I don't consider refractive surgeons
colleagues...these people aren't healers. I've also given lots of
thought on how to reach potential victims of the RS industry. At least
patients deserve accurate information before making such a potentially
life-altering decision."
And this:
"It's frightening to think of all the potential complications which
haven't yet happened. There are thousands of people out there who will
follow you and I into the 5% heap...patients that the ophthalmologists
would like to forget...patients marketing types don't even consider
when pressing out their glossy brochures. I really feel for these
unsuspecting myopes. I'd give almost anything to have it back, to be in
the pre-surgical decision phase. Next best thing is to keep others
from making the catastrophic mistake that I did."
And this:
"My conjunctivochalasis didn't exist to any degree
before LASIK. With the severe dryness, my conjunctiva has thinned and
degenerated and has now become an additional contributing factor to my
eye pain."
And this:
"I'm still struggling with accommodation dysfunction and wild variance
in acuity. Night driving is Hell. I've developed alternate routes to
and from work based on day vs night driving. My night route puts me on
the roads with the brightest street lights but is the least direct."
And here is some more:
"Accidental altruism is what I call my experience. I couldn't
save myself from the bad outcome, but I am determined to save others
from it. I see that in you. Sure, everyone is angry with bad RS
outcomes, but it is clear to me that what sustains your passion is
altruism. The only way to avoid degraded low light vision, weakened
corneas,
and dry eyes is - "don't get LASIK!" If you bury this procedure,
you'll have created more healthy eyes than a city of ophthalmologists."
Another excerpt:
"I was using drops as prescribed every 1-2 hours for the first month.
At month two, I had severe eye pain, shitty vision, and accommodative
dysfunction. My lame refractive surgeon and lamer yet co-managing OD
said these were transient symptoms. At month six, they basically
abandoned my case because the transient nature of my symptoms seemed
more tenacious than they were able to deal with. I found a better OD
who tried everything to help with my accommodation problems. Reading
glasses just gave me horrendous headaches.( I love to read and this
"benefit" of LASIK has caused me great hardship). His diagnosis was
irregular astigmatism, accommodative spasm with gross refractive
fluctuations as a result of dry eye.
Christmas is tough. I'm coming up on my year anniversary of the char
and scar, sometimes referred to as LASIK."
Read on:
The medical board answers to no one.... the board's function is to
monitor, review and police substandard care and non-professional
behavior of the licensed physican. As a medical professional, I can
assure you that your butcher's actions are unethical. Well, any
ophthalmologist performing LASIK is unethical by reasonable standards."
More:
"I do find that eyestrain is now a way of life. The headaches
get me down sometimes.The OR is brutal since the relative humidity is
kept below 20% for infection control-so dryness is always an issue. I
blast in a couple of drops of Freshkote before a case. My colleagues
know about my ordeal with refractive surgery. I've managed to scare off
a number of potential LASIK candidates who've asked if I was pleased
with my results. My answer to that one usually renews their affection
for their glasses or contacts."
"I'm not religious by any means, but if there is a Hell, there is a
special place in it for Refractive surgeons.
I've been trying to understand the phenomenon of LASIK surgery's
tenacity despite all the clear indications that it should be abolished.
I believe that there are several key elements that refractive surgeons
consciously or inadvertently exploit. First, we all hated our glasses
and contact lenses. The promise of "perfect", unaided vision is so very
seductive. The lure took away much of my objectiveness so I was hearing
and reading only the propaganda and little of the real science. The
dense marketing overwhelms the objective information on RS. Next,
vision is poorly quantitated. Visual acuity is a subjective report by
the patient..."yeah, one looks clearer than two...wait, let me see two
again". No none really assesses how light is refracted by the anterior
eye then interpreted by the retina and brain. The optics of the human
eye are not static either. So the patient, ecstatic to be free of
lenses, believes he or she is now seeing great just because the 20/20
line can be resolved without glasses. Never mind the loss of contrast
sensitivity, loss of night acuity, loss of accommodation, corneal
derangement, dry eye...........etc. Now you have a population of LASIK
patients who want to believe their vision has been improved. They go on
to be poster children for LASIK and tell their friends and the vicious
cycle perpetuates. The "1%" of us that get the complications are
written off as unlucky bastards. Like the crazy aunt in the basement,
no one wants to acknowledge us because of our small numbers. After all,
would a reasonable person avoid going outside because of the
infinitesimally small risk of being hit by lightening? That's what we
are up against.
The FDA is a joke. They obstruct good medications, devices and
procedures and seem to bless the crap. Physicians on those panels are
notoriously the bottom 5% of their medical school classes. Most
couldn't critically read a peer reviewed journal if their lives
depended on it. It may take a class action lawsuit to stop the
butchering of eyes. [Deleted name of physician's lasik surgeon] is big
here in [deleted city of surgeon's residence]...the TLC equivalent.
What about this- "LASIK special $499, red-tipped cane included!" Or
maybe "LASIC-Lost Acuity Since I Came." It would get some righteous
publicity.
Getting physicians to organize a campaign might be a start. Let's get
the PhD's involved too.
I do have a wonderful wife who has helped me through all this. I don't
think she can ever comprehend the magnitude of the damage LASIK has
caused me. She has witnessed my decline into the darkest depression
that I have ever experienced. I do understand what [deleted name of
University of Michigan Psychiatrist who committed suicide in 2004 over
his bad LASIK outcome] was dealing with. I believe that I came
frighteningly close to his fate."
And read this:
"I was contemplating life in general today. It's amazing how
drastically
the LASIK has altered my life. I know you are experiencing that as
well. I realize that for me, I'm waging two battles. The obvious one is
the post-LASIK eye damage with all the associated treatments and daily
misery. But possibly more debilitating is the way that this outcome has
screwed up my psyche. At first, pure regret and anger wore me down
until I was clinically depressed. Then medication helped me out of that
dark state but I haven't yet regained my previous self. I still feel
kind of dazed. Have you felt this? It seems everything about my daily
experience has recentered on my eyes and vision. If my eyes feel better
one day, it's a good day. If I'm seeing particularly bad one day,
getting through a day is Hell. Every activity from reading to driving
at night reminds me of what I once had but have no more. I hate having
my mental state and moods hard-wired to my eyes...know what I mean?"
More:
"You are more than welcome to use anonymous excerpts from my emails. If
we can save a single potential LASIK victim, we've given someone an
invaluable gift for life."
And please read this pearl of wisdom:
One of the things that really irritated me about USA eyes and LME was
that idiot Glenn Hagle (sp.?) What a bag man for the LASIK industry. He
tries to come off as some patient advocate but he shamelessly promotes
the butchers. His stupid disclaimer "I am not a doctor" at the end of
every posting should read "I am not in any way reputable." Patient's
with real injuries are simply referred to the "links". I watched a long
thread where some guy with serious complications was communicating with
Glenn. Glenn's advice was so pathetically worthless. Those
generic "links" and canned advice Glenn was touting were going to get
him nowhere, and might delay some needed intervention. Turns out that
the guy was sitting on an overlooked retinal detachment. NICE!"
On people who won't express dissatisfaction with bad LASIK outcomes:
""Too negative," now that's rich. Someone nearly blinds you, curses you
with unrelenting eye pain, and robs you of essential tears and you are
angry? I wouldn't pay much attention to the lemmings. After all, they
dilute the visible dissatisfaction with the procedure which allows more
victims to be injured."
On LASIK suicide:
"It really sucks about your friend's vision. Her dry eye sounds
miserable too. I know that pain all too well. LASIK will not only
damage your vision and ocular health, it can be poison to your psyche.
Her suicidal ideations ARE scary. I was there once. Looking back, I was
dangerously close. By telling you, she may be seeking help. I didn't
tell anyone. If she gets silent about it, it's time to worry."
More on LASIK suicide:
"Wow, the suicidal times seem like a dream now (nightmare of course). I
was really thinking about driving over to the [Deleted name of LASIK
surgeon] clinic in the early AM hours, putting a sign on the windshield
"NICE RESULTS [surgeon name deleted]", and blowing my brains out with a
pistol.
The media coverage would've dinged the bastard pretty good.
I actually had the sign made. I came
so close it now gives me the creeps to think about it. You are the only
one I've told that to. I'm like you though. There is a threshold of
debilitation above which I will not accept. That would be an unfair
life sentence."
" I spent five months in the deepest, major
depression. Only in the last month have I felt that I might not end up
as a suicide statistic. There were many, many nights where I would lie
down in bed at night, hoping for an arrythmia or ruptured cerebral
aneurysm to keep me from waking up to another day. Every morning when I
drove to work, I wished for a big truck to T-bone me in an
intersection...living was certainly more painful than dying. I first
though about inert gas asphyxiation with nitrogen, cheap, painless and
easy. I thought about carbon monoxide but levels from new cars with
catalytic converters isn't enough to give you more than a headache.
KCL, good if given through a central line, but caustic to veins...so
you inject it in an arm vein and get pain and a quickly clotted vein.
Later, I bought a gun, Glock 9mm.
It was the knowledge that I would destroy my wife's life that
kept me from aerating my skull. I was really messed up!
The one thing that the psychiatrists don't realize is that
nothing follows you around like your vision. We are constantly reminded
of the damage which wears your psyche down in the most effective, cruel
way. It takes extra effort and strength to come up out of that type of
depression."
On a movie theater experience after LASIK:
"My first post-LASIK movie experience sucked. I was in the nasty part
of my depression and went to see that pathetic film "The terminal."
The low light, ambient light aberrations were horrendous. I was so
dizzy from them that I barfed thirty minutes into the flick."
On vision after LASIK and pain:
"My irregular astigmatism seems to be minimized when my eyes are moist
with natural tears. If they are dry, my vision, day or night, stinks.
Night vision can be
really bad with halos. Dryness also gives my a wierd haze during the
day, as if I were looking through a glass of skim milk. The best
artificial tears don't alleviate this regardless of how often I use
them. Natural tears really resolve the haze.
I still have constant eye burning, but it's now a 5 rather than my
prior 9's. The accomodative spasm only occurs once a week or so,
usually after reading or a demanding case at work. Reading glasses are
a no-no. In an optimistic fugue a couple of days ago, I tried them on
to read and was rewarded with a Gozilla of a headache and really
blurred vision for about 24 hours."
Hey Holden, after reading about what happend to this surgeon,
do you still want LASIK? I know other physicians with bad LASIK
outcomes. One of them is on disability and is quite depressed years
after his botched surgery.
Holden wrote:[vbcol=seagreen]
> Thanks for the replies.
>
> The caveat to this is that I am not only a physician myself, but also a
> surgeon(but not an eye surgeon...). I have several friends that are
> opthamologists and have followed the technology for many years. My
> interest comes from wanting to free myself from contacts/glasses as I
> pursue an active lifestyle as an ironman triathlete and distance
> swimmer. My concern, however, is that my vision would be affected such
> that it would cause difficulty in the O.R....particularly needing to
> see clearly at the O.R. table(waist level), and seeing the TV monitors
> during laparoscopic cases. If I had a bad outcome it would be
> DEVASTATING to my career.
> That said, I have friends(MD's) that have had outstanding results and
> say it is the "best thing I ever did...and I wish I had done it years
> ago..."??
>
> Surely a dilemma......
>
> HC
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> Brent Hanson - LASIKFRAUD.com wrote:
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| serebel 2005-07-31, 10:53 pm |
| Holden,
Tabby and Hanson here tend to make things up as they go along. Actually
they outright lie.
You could start with your friend's surgeon and go from there. Get a few
opinions based upon direct examination, and only then make your
decision.
Best of luck on whatever choice you make.
SErebel
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| SadbadLASIK.com 2005-08-04, 8:58 am |
| A 'top LASIK surgeon'... well that's sort of an oxymoron. An excellent
doctor would know the literature well enough to know that creation
of the LASIK flap causes perment harm to the eye and would no longer
be performing the surgery.
Would you like contact information for a young man whose vision was
completely ruined by VISX custom LASIK in Virginia so you can hear
what it is like to live with a really bad outcome?
You may also be interested to hear how this young man was treated
by many so called top doctors in the southeast. Hint. Badly.
<holdencain@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1122822928.676803.274850@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
>I live a couple hours from Richmond/Charlottesville...45mins from
> Roanoke. I am looking for a top surgeon in the region. I am willing to
> travel a few hrs for LASIK...even down to NC..Charlotte, Raleigh,
> Winston... Any recomendations? All the major med centers are close
> by...Duke, UNC, etc.
> Thanks,
> HC
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