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gospa68@aol.com

2005-07-22, 10:50 pm

>From Asia Times, July 19, 2005, Beijing Intech Eye Hospital - Zhan said
ophthalmologists there are focused on safety over speed of recovery
when it comes to laser eye surgery, which is a notion not always
embraced even in the US. For instance, the clinic advocates
laser-assisted sub-epithelial keratectomy (LASEK) for the correction of
nearsightedness and astigmatism, as opposed to the laser-assisted in
situ keratomileusis (LASIK) vision correction procedure more popular in
the US. LASEK is considered by many ophthalmologists to be safer
because it treats only the outermost surface of the eye, rather than
cutting into a more inner layer like LASIK. Despite its safety profile,
LASEK's recovery time is slower than LASIK, making many American
surgeons loath to embrace the procedure in their instant-gratification
society.

Glenn - USAEyes.org

2005-07-23, 8:50 am

Well WizKid, you finally came up with something on which we can agree
wholeheartedly.

PRK and its cousins LASIK and Epi-LASIK take significantly longer to
recover functional vision than LASIK which can be almost
instantaneous. Most westerners are unwilling or unable to be
unproductive for that period of time when all their friends had LASIK
and seem to be fine.

For more on surface ablation techniques, visit
http://www.usaeyes.org/faq/subjects/lasek.htm

Glenn Hagele
Executive Director
USAEyes.org

"Consider and Choose With Confidence"

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Sandy

2005-07-24, 1:09 pm

If US surgeons concerned themselves more with safety and the welfare of
the patient came first, they would operate on one eye at a time. They
decline to spend the extra time it would cost them to do this, in the
name of maximizing their income per hour.

Glenn - USAEyes.org

2005-07-24, 1:09 pm

Doctors have no problem doing one eye at a time - anybody can request
this - it is the patients who desire the convenience of both eyes at
the same time.

Furthermore, several studies of LASIK have shown that there is no
statistical difference in patient outcomes if one eye is done and then
the other, or both eyes are done at the same time.

There is nothing wrong with doing LASIK on both eyes at the same time,
or one at a time if the patient desires.

PRK, LASEK, and Epi-LASIK have a longer vision recovery time and the
time with limiting "functional fuzzy" vision may make it more
convenient for the patient to have one eye done at a time. However,
there is nothing statistically different between surface ablation one
eye at a time, or both at once.

RLE and P-IOLs are much more invasive than LASK or PRK/LASEK/Epi-LASIK
and can have a period of time with no vision at all during the
recovery. These techniques may require one eye at a time.

Glenn Hagele
Executive Director
USAEyes.org

"Consider and Choose With Confidence"

Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org

http://www.USAEyes.org
http://www.ComplicatedEyes.org

I am not a doctor.
Graeme Hewson

2005-07-24, 6:52 pm

There's another consideration as well. Between operations, with an
uncorrected error of +/- 2 or 3 diopters or more, there'd be a
difference in image sizes between the operated-on and uncorrected eyes
when wearing spectacles. There wouldn't be this difference if a contact
lens were worn, but the lens would still need to be left out for at
least a week before the second operation...

Ragnar

2005-07-25, 12:22 am

And just how is someone supposed to see normally with just one eye
done? Pop one lens out of their glasses? Wear one contact? That
is like mixing apples with oranges and leads to anisometropia.... I
spelled that right and didn't even have to look it up!



On 24 Jul 2005 09:11:04 -0700, "Sandy" <sandy@savvysneaks.com> wrote:

>If US surgeons concerned themselves more with safety and the welfare of
>the patient came first, they would operate on one eye at a time. They
>decline to spend the extra time it would cost them to do this, in the
>name of maximizing their income per hour.


Ragnar

2005-07-25, 12:22 am

That is the anisometropia I was mentioning earlier...

On 24 Jul 2005 18:34:31 GMT, ghewson@cix.co.REVERSE:ku (Graeme Hewson)
wrote:

>There's another consideration as well. Between operations, with an
>uncorrected error of +/- 2 or 3 diopters or more, there'd be a
>difference in image sizes between the operated-on and uncorrected eyes
>when wearing spectacles. There wouldn't be this difference if a contact
>lens were worn, but the lens would still need to be left out for at
>least a week before the second operation...


Graeme Hewson

2005-07-25, 1:36 pm

Not really... the difference in images sizes would be due to only one
spectacle lens being used, not by the eyes being anisometropic.
ycdbsoya

2005-07-25, 6:59 pm

I've heard if you wear a patch on your eye and a parrot on your
shoulder and go "Arrggh!" a lot, the size differential is not
noticeable.

Sandra

2005-07-26, 11:09 pm

American LASIK surgeons want cash, they don't care about people's eyes.
Patients need to hurt them right in the wallet by speaking out against this
surgery.



<gospa68@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1122077508.102473.5670@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> ophthalmologists there are focused on safety over speed of recovery
> when it comes to laser eye surgery, which is a notion not always
> embraced even in the US. For instance, the clinic advocates
> laser-assisted sub-epithelial keratectomy (LASEK) for the correction of
> nearsightedness and astigmatism, as opposed to the laser-assisted in
> situ keratomileusis (LASIK) vision correction procedure more popular in
> the US. LASEK is considered by many ophthalmologists to be safer
> because it treats only the outermost surface of the eye, rather than
> cutting into a more inner layer like LASIK. Despite its safety profile,
> LASEK's recovery time is slower than LASIK, making many American
> surgeons loath to embrace the procedure in their instant-gratification
> society.
>



serebel

2005-07-26, 11:09 pm

Millions of American eyes with great outcomes kinda puts Sandra's spiel
here to rest.

SErebel

Glenn - USAEyes.org

2005-07-27, 9:01 am

Apparently Sandra believes that foreign doctors provide their services
for free.

Glenn Hagele
Executive Director
USAEyes.org

"Consider and Choose With Confidence"

Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org

http://www.USAEyes.org
http://www.ComplicatedEyes.org

I am not a doctor.
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