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Problems with glasses- is Lasik a good idea?
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| For a while now I've been trying to get a good pair of glasses
prescribed to me but have not had success. I've got myopia and
astigmatism. The glasses I've been given either hurt my eyes after 15
minutes, or make me feel like they're straining my eyes and I start
feeling cross-eyed and I have to take them off. Or it seems like
they're too powerful and makes it seem like the world is spinning a
bit. The doctor always says it takes a while to get used to them, but
I never do.
I was wondering if Lasik's a good idea if you're having problems
getting a good pair of glasses prescribed. What I think the problem
with the glasses is that astigmatism makes it a little more difficult
for two lenses to combine and make a clear picture. I don't know
however how much of a problem astigmatism presents to Lasik. Could I
have the same problems if I get Lasik done?
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| CatmanX 2005-07-12, 11:12 pm |
| Yes you can well have the same problems, except for the fact they will
now be permanent.
Before you consider any form of surgery, you need to get the script
right and work oput why you get these problems.
There are a few things thaq timmediately come to mind, such as
accommodative and vergence problems, but these need to be properly
established prior to refractive surgery, or the problem can be made
worse.
dr grant
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| Ragnar 2005-07-12, 11:12 pm |
| Despite the flood of nonsense you will get in this newsgroup, LASIK is
a great idea for you from what you reveal of your condition. LASIK is
also great at reducing astigmatism since it compensates for the
irregular shape of the cornea which is the cause of your astigmatism.
HOWEVER... why not try out rigid contact lenses first? Soft
contacts don't do much, if anything for astigmatism, but rigid lenses
do. Rigid lenses are kind of like a bra for your eyes. Soft lenses
offer no "support" . Despite ads saying they have soft lenses that
treat astigmatism... don't count on it. I tried soft toric lenses
before and they were useless. 100% of people I know of that tried
soft torics were disappointed, and they are expensive.
On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 06:22:59 GMT, Buck <buck@tooth.com> wrote:
>For a while now I've been trying to get a good pair of glasses
>prescribed to me but have not had success. I've got myopia and
>astigmatism. The glasses I've been given either hurt my eyes after 15
>minutes, or make me feel like they're straining my eyes and I start
>feeling cross-eyed and I have to take them off. Or it seems like
>they're too powerful and makes it seem like the world is spinning a
>bit. The doctor always says it takes a while to get used to them, but
>I never do.
>I was wondering if Lasik's a good idea if you're having problems
>getting a good pair of glasses prescribed. What I think the problem
>with the glasses is that astigmatism makes it a little more difficult
>for two lenses to combine and make a clear picture. I don't know
>however how much of a problem astigmatism presents to Lasik. Could I
>have the same problems if I get Lasik done?
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| Lasik Complications 2005-07-12, 11:12 pm |
| Buck,
I had both myopia and astigmatism (both high) I was left with residual
astigmatism in my left eye after lasik last year. Now my left eye is
ruined as it went from being myopic to being far sighted. But
everything at a distance is blurred and I cannot see anything from the
sides even with glasses. I have to look at everything directly in
front.
I wish with all my heart and soul that I had never had lasik. I was
not a good candidate but made the mistake of trusting my doctor and not
doing research on the internet.
As for me, I would recommend not to have lasik. Think about it, why
would you want someone to cut your eyes and burn them in the hope that
you will be able to see better. Remember also, lasik is in its
infancy. First lasers were approved by FDA in 1998. Please make sure
the read the FDA's web site regarding lasik. If you are a big risk
taker and want to gamble your eyes (a big crap shoot as one of my
friends who also had lasik says), then I would not do it.
Lasik Complications
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| CatmanX 2005-07-12, 11:12 pm |
| Buck, before you listen to the prior poster, you need to know why you
are having the problems you are having. Lasik can cause permanent
double vision in some people if not pretested correctly, and I have a
few of these as patients. Their problem was they were always going to
get double vision and should not have been offered the procedure. The
doctor however did not do the right tests and now they are up for more
surgery to fix the turned eye.
While Lasik may be an option, it is NOT recommended until your vision
is stable and comfortable.
dr grant
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| Glenn - USAEyes.org 2005-07-12, 11:12 pm |
| "Lasic Complications",
You state that you were overcorrected from myopia (nearsighted,
shortsighted) to hyperopia (farsighted, longsighted) and that this
"ruined" your left eye.
Hyperopia is a refractive error that occurs naturally, with and
without astigmatism, and does not "ruin" the eyes. Refractive error is
corrected with lenses, such as glasses, contacts, bifocals, etc. The
health of your eye would not be directly compromised by refractive
error.
If your eye is, in fact, "ruined", what other physiological problem do
you have?
BTW, the FDA's web address regarding LASIK is at
http://www.fda.gov/cdrh/lasik/
Glenn Hagele
Executive Director
USAEyes.org
"Consider and Choose With Confidence"
Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org
http://www.USAEyes.org
http://www.ComplicatedEyes.org
I am not a doctor.
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| Glenn - USAEyes.org 2005-07-12, 11:12 pm |
| Also, what is your current prescription?
Glenn Hagele
Executive Director
USAEyes.org
"Consider and Choose With Confidence"
Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org
http://www.USAEyes.org
http://www.ComplicatedEyes.org
I am not a doctor.
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| serebel 2005-07-12, 11:12 pm |
| Buck,
You should get your vision stabilized before undergoing RS. Laser
surgery could be great for you once you get a handle on what's going
with your prescription and comfort.
"Lasik Complications" laid out his own case by saying that he wasn't a
good candidate,yet had lasik anyway. He said he should have done his
research on the internet, but anyone who relies on internet info alone
is a fool and deserves what they get.
He walked into RS with his head up his XXX, and now blames lasik where
he should look at himself.
Good luck and do some real research.
Serebel
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| Thanks for your input. What I'm gonna do is get a good pair of glasses
first and then move on from there.
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| Ragnar 2005-07-12, 11:12 pm |
| Let's just hope that people will realize your post is a load of
misinformation.
I guess you missed my recent post about how LASIK has nothing to do
with burning.
On 12 Jul 2005 11:31:47 -0700, "Lasik Complications"
<galin99do@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Buck,
>I had both myopia and astigmatism (both high) I was left with residual
>astigmatism in my left eye after lasik last year. Now my left eye is
>ruined as it went from being myopic to being far sighted. But
>everything at a distance is blurred and I cannot see anything from the
>sides even with glasses. I have to look at everything directly in
>front.
>I wish with all my heart and soul that I had never had lasik. I was
>not a good candidate but made the mistake of trusting my doctor and not
>doing research on the internet.
>As for me, I would recommend not to have lasik. Think about it, why
>would you want someone to cut your eyes and burn them in the hope that
>you will be able to see better. Remember also, lasik is in its
>infancy. First lasers were approved by FDA in 1998. Please make sure
>the read the FDA's web site regarding lasik. If you are a big risk
>taker and want to gamble your eyes (a big crap shoot as one of my
>friends who also had lasik says), then I would not do it.
>Lasik Complications
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| Ragnar 2005-07-12, 11:12 pm |
| I would like to know the names of these bad surgeons. I know they
exist. I took care of a few bad surgeons myself. : )
On 12 Jul 2005 13:12:16 -0700, "CatmanX" <grantm@connexus.net.au>
wrote:
>Buck, before you listen to the prior poster, you need to know why you
>are having the problems you are having. Lasik can cause permanent
>double vision in some people if not pretested correctly, and I have a
>few of these as patients. Their problem was they were always going to
>get double vision and should not have been offered the procedure. The
>doctor however did not do the right tests and now they are up for more
>surgery to fix the turned eye.
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>While Lasik may be an option, it is NOT recommended until your vision
>is stable and comfortable.
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>dr grant
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| Ragnar 2005-07-12, 11:12 pm |
| How about a good set of contacts? I don't think having a device worn
on one's head 16 hours a day is a good solution. Glasses are a poor
vision solution. Leave the glasses to history and Benjamin Franklin.
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 03:13:44 GMT, Buck <buck@tooth.com> wrote:
>Thanks for your input. What I'm gonna do is get a good pair of glasses
>first and then move on from there.
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| CatmanX 2005-07-13, 9:04 am |
| Before you get a good pair of glasses, get a good optometrist. You need
to get it done right and to have them explain what is happening to make
you feel this way.
grant
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| I wish I could  but I have some permanent blood vessels (or
something similar to vessels) around my eye near my cornea. Several
doctors have told me it's too dangerous to prescribe contacts because
if they grow into the cornea then I'm in trouble. It probably started
years ago when I would fall asleep with my contacts, and I would wake
up with them stuck to my eyes like they were bonded with glue.
I never had problems with the contacts, but also back then I didn't
have that much astigmatism. I have a lot of astigmatism in my right
eye now so I think that is part of my hardship with the glasses.
Anyway I'll keep on trying to get it done right.
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 03:52:38 GMT, Ragnar <ragnarsuomi@yahoo.com>
wrote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
>How about a good set of contacts? I don't think having a device worn
>on one's head 16 hours a day is a good solution. Glasses are a poor
>vision solution. Leave the glasses to history and Benjamin Franklin.
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>On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 03:13:44 GMT, Buck <buck@tooth.com> wrote:
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| Ragnar 2005-07-14, 8:58 am |
| Finding a good optometrist, or a good practioner in any field is
easier said than done. By the time one can make that determination,
it's usually too late.
On 13 Jul 2005 05:00:16 -0700, "CatmanX" <grantm@connexus.net.au>
wrote:
>Before you get a good pair of glasses, get a good optometrist. You need
>to get it done right and to have them explain what is happening to make
>you feel this way.
>
>grant
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| Ragnar 2005-07-14, 8:58 am |
| Oh! that explains why no contacts! That is a rare but nasty
problem you have there with the capillaries. Contacts would be bad
for you.
Glasses do a lousy job with astigmatism. LASIK just might be your
best option, but realize that your eyes are very screwed up. There is
no magic that is going to give you perfect eyes and vision. There are
only means of improving your situation.
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 13:03:25 GMT, Buck <buck@tooth.com> wrote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
>I wish I could but I have some permanent blood vessels (or
>something similar to vessels) around my eye near my cornea. Several
>doctors have told me it's too dangerous to prescribe contacts because
>if they grow into the cornea then I'm in trouble. It probably started
>years ago when I would fall asleep with my contacts, and I would wake
>up with them stuck to my eyes like they were bonded with glue.
>I never had problems with the contacts, but also back then I didn't
>have that much astigmatism. I have a lot of astigmatism in my right
>eye now so I think that is part of my hardship with the glasses.
>Anyway I'll keep on trying to get it done right.
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>On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 03:52:38 GMT, Ragnar <ragnarsuomi@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
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| CatmanX 2005-07-14, 8:58 am |
| Buck, you will find that the vessels are no longer an issue with CL's.
We now have silicone hydrogels, which allow 98.5% (PureVision) and
99.5% (Focus Night & Day) of atmospheric oxygen to get to the cornea.
This means no more oxygen deprivation. Additionally, these lenses are
characteristically worn as extanded wear lenses so are safe to be left
in. In your case I would not recommend that, but if you did fall asleep
in them occasionally, you will find that there is no issue. These
lenses are also very good with dry eyes and you would not find them
sticking if you did sleep in them.
PureVision make a toric lens for astigmatism and N&D are coming out
with one. I would suggest you find an optometrist who specialises in
contacts and talk to them about it.
dr grant
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