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Every LASIK patient has LASIK complications
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| Ilana 2005-06-28, 11:08 pm |
| It's just a matter of degree, and when they manifest.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...t_uids=15808255
Ex Vivo Confocal Microscopy of Human LASIK Corneas with Histologic and
Ultrastructural Correlation
Ophthalmology
Volume 112, Issue 4 , April 2005, Pages 634-644
Excerpts from the full text:
"All corneas (n = 22) had focal areas of basal epithelial cell hypertrophic
elongation on the surface epithelium of the flap in valleys produced by
undulations of the underlying Bowman's layer (Fig 5B), whereas many corneas
had microscopic foci or islands of epithelial cells in the scar."
"Some corneas additionally had empty spaces in the scar filled with foreign
material suspicious for plastic particles22 or had microscopic (i.e., 1-2
cells) epithelial cell implantation in the scar (Fig 6C, D). The implanted
epithelial cells varied in appearance from intact to degenerating, or even
necrotic in some cases."
"... the predominant permanent interface particles after LASIK (vacuoles in
keratocytes and implanted epithelial cells) seem to be present universally
in all corneas that have had LASIK..."
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| serebel 2005-06-28, 11:08 pm |
| You forgot the obvious complication, people can see.
SErebel
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| CatmanX 2005-06-28, 11:08 pm |
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Holy cr@p Batman, I never thought of that one.
grant
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| Fernando 2005-06-29, 10:54 pm |
| Well, post-LASIKs typically lose visual quality and some have been rendered
legally blind. And some are in constant pain for life.
I read on one forum that having realistic expectations about LASIK meant
seeing worse
with glasses or contacts than before LASIK with glasses or contacts.
"CatmanX" <grantm@connexus.net.au> wrote in message
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> Holy cr@p Batman, I never thought of that one.
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> grant
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| serebel 2005-06-29, 10:54 pm |
| Reading forums and looking at reality are two entirely different
things.
SErebel
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| Fernando 2005-07-03, 12:35 pm |
| Then I heard the same from individuals after LASIK- that the reality of
their lives is that they see worse after LASIK with glasses or contacts then
they did before LASIK with glasses or contacts. I live this reality every
day myself and I hate it. I would give anything to go back to the day I had
LASIK - and NOT have it. Rip up that consent form and walk out with healty
eyes and excellent corrected vision. Instead I have horrible vision and
daily discomfort/pain from dry eye.
Why don't you get a life?
I understand from previous posts that your vision is quite bad. Your corneas
are so thin that you get blurry vision from sleeping on a pillow, you have
to wear plugs from the dry eye that you got from LASIK (dry eye is not a
young man's problem... it's an old woman's problem unless some idiot surgeon
happens to slash your corneal nerves). You also were responding to some
woman named Ilana and you thought her name was Hana. This means you can't
see. I can even see the differnce between Ilana and Hana and my vision is
terrible.
Consider some psychotherapy to get you through this denial phase and in to a
healthier way of dealing with your visual loss.
"serebel" <serebel@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Reading forums and looking at reality are two entirely different
> things.
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> SErebel
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| Ragnar 2005-07-03, 12:35 pm |
| You are wrong.
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 19:17:34 -0400, "Fernando"
<Fernando@aol_nospam.com> wrote:
>Well, post-LASIKs typically lose visual quality and some have been rendered
>legally blind. And some are in constant pain for life.
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>I read on one forum that having realistic expectations about LASIK meant
>seeing worse
>with glasses or contacts than before LASIK with glasses or contacts.
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>
>"CatmanX" <grantm@connexus.net.au> wrote in message
>news:1119954381.768905.239280@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
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| CatmanX 2005-07-03, 12:35 pm |
| Most people who have Lasik can be argued to have worse vision than
prior to Lasik. Reduction isn contrast sensitivity, dry eye, haloes,
poor night vision.
Funny thing is that most of them are ecstatic that they had the
procedure. They have adapted and are willing to put up with the side
effects as the benefits outweigh the downside.
dr grant
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| Fernando 2005-07-03, 10:53 pm |
| Actually, I'm not wrong.
"Ragnar" <ragnarsuomi@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> You are wrong.
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> On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 19:17:34 -0400, "Fernando"
> <Fernando@aol_nospam.com> wrote:
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| serebel 2005-07-03, 10:53 pm |
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Fernando wrote:
> Then I heard the same from individuals after LASIK- that the reality of
> their lives is that they see worse after LASIK with glasses or contacts then
> they did before LASIK with glasses or contacts. I live this reality every
> day myself and I hate it. I would give anything to go back to the day I had
> LASIK - and NOT have it. Rip up that consent form and walk out with healty
> eyes and excellent corrected vision. Instead I have horrible vision and
> daily discomfort/pain from dry eye.
>
> Why don't you get a life?
>
> I understand from previous posts that your vision is quite bad. Your corneas
> are so thin that you get blurry vision from sleeping on a pillow, you have
> to wear plugs from the dry eye that you got from LASIK (dry eye is not a
> young man's problem... it's an old woman's problem unless some idiot surgeon
> happens to slash your corneal nerves). You also were responding to some
> woman named Ilana and you thought her name was Hana. This means you can't
> see. I can even see the differnce between Ilana and Hana and my vision is
> terrible.
>
> Consider some psychotherapy to get you through this denial phase and in to a
> healthier way of dealing with your visual loss.
>
>
>
Fernando,
Obviously it's you who has the vision problem. If you "get" all this
info from my previous posts, you are really a moron. Denial phase? What
the f--- have you been smoking? I'll try English for you, I SEE
FINE!!!!!
SErebel
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| Ragnar 2005-07-04, 8:59 am |
| You are wrong.
On Sun, 3 Jul 2005 20:30:58 -0400, "Fernando"
<Fernando@aol_nospam.com> wrote:
>Actually, I'm not wrong.
>
>
>"Ragnar" <ragnarsuomi@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:q0o9c198hla1hlh686aj33df2slji7pkod@4ax.com...
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| Denise 2005-07-04, 11:53 am |
| You're like preschooler, but less informed.
"Ragnar" <ragnarsuomi@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> You are wrong.
>
> On Sun, 3 Jul 2005 20:30:58 -0400, "Fernando"
> <Fernando@aol_nospam.com> wrote:
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| serebel 2005-07-05, 12:08 pm |
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Denise wrote:
> You're like preschooler, but less informed.
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>
Your post here is how a preschooler would write.
SErebel
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| Ragnar 2005-07-05, 12:08 pm |
| Denise is a new name for one of the whackos.. most likely Fern.. who
is most likely FlapMelt, etc etc etc.
Just ignore the troll if possible. Nobody is paying attention to
Denise and her misinformation.
On 4 Jul 2005 18:56:37 -0700, "serebel" <serebel@aol.com> wrote:
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>Denise wrote:
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> Your post here is how a preschooler would write.
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>SErebel
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| ycdbsoya 2005-07-05, 5:55 pm |
| Hey, I just noticed I can read the 20/12 line! But the letters are very
"hairy" and I have poor night vision that impedes my ability to drive
at night. Am I a "success" or a "failure," and why?
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| In article <1120584866.743427.312870@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"ycdbsoya" <the_boydstons@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hey, I just noticed I can read the 20/12 line! But the letters are very
> "hairy" and I have poor night vision that impedes my ability to drive
> at night. Am I a "success" or a "failure," and why?
what do you think? that's the important question.
--
~RT
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| ycdbsoya 2005-07-05, 5:55 pm |
| Hey, it's like having sex without love. There's a good analogy!
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| serebel 2005-07-05, 10:55 pm |
| Don't drive at night Frank. Save your bitching for your surgeon. If
you think of yourself as a failure, you're a failure.
SErebel
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| Ragnar 2005-07-06, 8:56 am |
| Asking ycdboya to think is a futile request.
On Tue, 05 Jul 2005 17:44:59 GMT, RT <RTMD24@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote:
>In article <1120584866.743427.312870@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> "ycdbsoya" <the_boydstons@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
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>what do you think? that's the important question.
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| ycdbsoya 2005-07-06, 6:06 pm |
| I wasn't conversing with either of you shitheads. Go away and XXXX
eachother.
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| serebel 2005-07-06, 10:58 pm |
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ycdbsoya wrote:
> I wasn't conversing with either of you shitheads. Go away and XXXX
> eachother.
S'matter Frank, your eyes bothering you today? Hey, give them a good
rub and say to yourself, my surgeon f...ed up, my surgeon f...ed up.
SErebel
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| ycdbsoya 2005-07-07, 11:51 am |
| Watch your back. I know where Rags lives, I'm closing in on you.
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| serebel 2005-07-09, 12:17 pm |
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ycdbsoya wrote:
> Watch your back. I know where Rags lives, I'm closing in on you.
Oooooh I'm scared. Maybe your seeing eye dog can find me. Now, what
could you possibly do if you find me?
SErebel
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| Casey 2005-07-09, 12:17 pm |
| LASIK is more like being robbed and raped.
"ycdbsoya" <the_boydstons@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hey, it's like having sex without love. There's a good analogy!
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| serebel 2005-07-09, 10:54 pm |
| Nothing like jumping off the cliff with that analogy Casey. Then
again, maybe you like that kind of action.
SErebel
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