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Author "It's like having your cake [brioche] and eating it, too," Maloney said.
RT

2005-06-08, 10:56 pm

Lens implants lower dependence on glasses
By KAT HUANG

WASHINGTON, June 6 (UPI)

Dr. Robert Maloney, the first surgeon in western North America to
perform LASIK, told UPI he is investigating the creation of a
multi-focus LASIK treatment that is undergoing clinical trials and may
be available in several years.

The procedure currently is confined to off-label use. Dr. Brian S. Boxer
Wachler, member of and spokesman for the American Academy of Cataract
and Refractive Surgeons, said this is no different than prescribing
aspirin to prevent a stroke.

"Doctors can use technology in a different way from the prescribed use
if the doctor and the patient consider it beneficial." Boxer Wachler
said.

"It's like having your cake and eating it, too," Maloney said.

<http://www.sciencedaily.com/upi/ind...ticle=UPI-1-200
50606-16145100-bc-us-lenses.xml>

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Ragnar

2005-06-09, 8:54 am

I'm guessing that what he's after isn't really any big deal...
But the bio-mechanics of it might not work.
H-Lasik on just the top half of the cornea with a transition zone to
the the bottom half would in theory have a natural bifocal effect, or
more precisely, a progressive type lens.
However, optics involving something rigid like tempered glass is a lot
more stable than optics involving something "plastic" such as the
cornea.

Not many people know that glass is actually a liquid!! If you put a
chunk of glass in a metal funnel and waited a long long long time, it
would pass through the funnel. In old buildings, the untempered glass
is thicker at the bottom than at the top for this reason.

I don't think the idea is very practical.

I think there was once an idea called the "golden ring" which involved
a ring of metal implanted on the cornea like Intacs which would expand
and contract with a tiny electric charge. That idea never went
anywhere though. That is sort of the idea with conductive
keratoplasty and radio waves. CK can also be done with heat or
chemicals.

I apologize to Grant Mason for not posting my messages in one syllable
words that he can understand. I will try.
"Shine bright light on eye make you see good with no lens"


On Thu, 09 Jun 2005 00:02:47 GMT, RT <RTMD24@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote:

>Lens implants lower dependence on glasses
>By KAT HUANG
>
>WASHINGTON, June 6 (UPI)
>
>Dr. Robert Maloney, the first surgeon in western North America to
>perform LASIK, told UPI he is investigating the creation of a
>multi-focus LASIK treatment that is undergoing clinical trials and may
>be available in several years.
>
>The procedure currently is confined to off-label use. Dr. Brian S. Boxer
>Wachler, member of and spokesman for the American Academy of Cataract
>and Refractive Surgeons, said this is no different than prescribing
>aspirin to prevent a stroke.
>
>"Doctors can use technology in a different way from the prescribed use
>if the doctor and the patient consider it beneficial." Boxer Wachler
>said.
>
>"It's like having your cake and eating it, too," Maloney said.
>
><http://www.sciencedaily.com/upi/ind...ticle=UPI-1-200
>50606-16145100-bc-us-lenses.xml>


RT

2005-06-09, 10:58 pm

Lighten up Rags! You're too busy trying to impress. I posted this not
so much for the info, but because it tied into your fabulous explanation
of Marie-Antoinette's brioche/cake. BTW, I like poached eggs on brioche.

Maloney thinks we should have our cake and eat it too. I think you
should enlighten him that the saying should actually be about brioche.

In article <h4jfa1po3fme7ri3ftl8ik3lbllqn0311p@4ax.com>,
Ragnar <ragnarsuomi@yahoo.com> wrote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
> I'm guessing that what he's after isn't really any big deal...
> But the bio-mechanics of it might not work.
> H-Lasik on just the top half of the cornea with a transition zone to
> the the bottom half would in theory have a natural bifocal effect, or
> more precisely, a progressive type lens.
> However, optics involving something rigid like tempered glass is a lot
> more stable than optics involving something "plastic" such as the
> cornea.
>
> Not many people know that glass is actually a liquid!! If you put a
> chunk of glass in a metal funnel and waited a long long long time, it
> would pass through the funnel. In old buildings, the untempered glass
> is thicker at the bottom than at the top for this reason.
>
> I don't think the idea is very practical.
>
> I think there was once an idea called the "golden ring" which involved
> a ring of metal implanted on the cornea like Intacs which would expand
> and contract with a tiny electric charge. That idea never went
> anywhere though. That is sort of the idea with conductive
> keratoplasty and radio waves. CK can also be done with heat or
> chemicals.
>
> I apologize to Grant Mason for not posting my messages in one syllable
> words that he can understand. I will try.
> "Shine bright light on eye make you see good with no lens"
>
>
> On Thu, 09 Jun 2005 00:02:47 GMT, RT <RTMD24@NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote:
>

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~RT

ycdbsoya

2005-06-10, 11:54 am

Isn't Rags a hoot? He really puts the "L" in Loser. In a joke response,
I meant to say "with" instead of "in" and he's all over it like white
on rice, and giving this who-gives-a-shit explanation about
God-knows-what. Same thing here.

This is someone without a real job, a real life, a girlfriend, or
anyone else that even cares, except for maybe his mother. And that's a
qualifying maybe. Pretty scary.

RT wrote:
> Lighten up Rags! You're too busy trying to impress. I posted this not
> so much for the info, but because it tied into your fabulous explanation
> of Marie-Antoinette's brioche/cake. BTW, I like poached eggs on brioche.
>
> Maloney thinks we should have our cake and eat it too. I think you
> should enlighten him that the saying should actually be about brioche.
>
> In article <h4jfa1po3fme7ri3ftl8ik3lbllqn0311p@4ax.com>,
> Ragnar <ragnarsuomi@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> --
> ~RT


pugs.are.cute@gmail.com

2005-06-10, 5:59 pm

And I would add that he has singlehandedly ruined this forum. No one
posts here any more.

Glenn - USAEyes.org

2005-06-10, 5:59 pm

Relevant posts are always available to relevant posters.

Glenn Hagele
Executive Director
USAEyes.org

"Consider and Choose With Confidence"

Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org

http://www.USAEyes.org
http://www.ComplicatedEyes.org

I am not a doctor.
CatmanX

2005-06-10, 5:59 pm

Yes, but how many are now relevant?

dr grant

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