Lasik Eyes Surgery - What do you have to lose if YOUR LASIK result goes poorly?

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What do you have to lose if YOUR LASIK result goes poorly?

doctor_my_eye@msn.com

2005-05-24, 5:58 pm

Another heart-to-heart from DoctorMyEye.com:

DoctorMyEye.com
THE Place To Go When
Refractive Surgery Goes Wrong!
Dr. Kenneth Minarik, O.D.

Requesting your input please...

Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 1:56 pm

First, let me say thank you for such an informative website!

My husband and I are considering LASIK, but are concerned with much of
the information we've uncovered on the internet.

Our situation is somewhat unique. My husband is a physician at the
Cleveland Clinic, and the procedure is provided at no cost to us by the
hospital. Many, many staff here are taking advantage of this, including
5 or so in my husband's department and all are very pleased with the
results.

We've had the introductory appointment which explains the procedure,
performs the basic tests to see if we're good candidates and we spoke
at length with the surgeon. His name is Dr. Steven Wilson and he is
considered to be one of the foremost experts in the field of refractive
surgery. He has published extensive research in the field, lectures
frequenty, and has performed over 8,000 procedures. And he has no
complaints against him with any state medical board!

Our main concerns were the effects we hear so much about, such as halos
and other visual distortions. He explained that this is usually due to
the flap being too small, or wrinkles in the flap, neither of which
should occur under skilled care and appropriate post-op care. Our
understanding is that complications do occur, but rarely in the hands
of a skilled surgeon and appropriate care. Of course, now we wonder...

My husband is about -6.75 with astigmatism and the doctor recommended
conventional LASIK with the Intralase laser for the flap. He said that
re-correction may be needed in about 15% of cases with my husband's
correction.

I'm about -2.75 and the doctor recommended Custom Cornea LASIK using
the microkeratome for me.

If anybody is to have LASIK, this seems to be the right way to do it.
Experienced surgeon, excellent pre and post op care, new technology...
But, we are still scared! We mainly desire this because we are very
active and would love to swim/camp/snorkel without worrying about our
contacts floating away! But, other than the minor inconvenience, we
don't have any problems wearing contacts.

So, finally on to our questions! Are most of the complications and
unhappiness with this procedure because of inexperienced surgeons and
inappropriate care? Or have many of you had bad experiences with event
the most highly qualified doctors? Any other advice? We would really
appreciate your input!

Thank you so much for taking the time to read, and hopefully respond!

Kelsey

(Dr. Minarik responds)

Location: Rockford,IL
Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 1:39 am
Post subject: You are right to be concerned...

...and thanks for the kind words about the website. As you might expect,
the number of patients that have been disabled by a poor LASIK outcome
has been dropping from year to year as the procedure improves and the
lasers and surgeons themselves have become more effective.

With that being said.....

There will always be a small number of patients that will have a
miserable outcome, even in the hands of a skilled surgeon with
excellent equipment. One of my favorite expressions is to create the
analogy as follows: Imagine I am a psychologist who spends his entire
day working with alcoholics. Imagine you and I are old friends, and
we've agreed to go out to dinner after work, for the first time in
years.

At dinner, you manage to drink two glasses of wine before the meal
arrives. Based on my internal conflicts and my daily battles with
alcoholism, how do you think I would react to you on a "gut" level?

Let's go back to talking about LASIK...

My gut reaction in your case is particularly adverse, because I know of
5 physicians that are now drawing permanent disability income from
their private disability insurance because of their LASIK outcomes.
Recently one of those 5 actually took his own life as a result of his
clinical depression that was triggered by his visual disturbances after
LASIK.
When a physician suffers a miserable complication that arises from the
actions of a colleague, the level of betrayal and mistrust that the
victim feels is even more exaggerated than the betrayal that a
non-physician feels. I am reminded of an old truism...the cobbler's
children have no shoes, and physicians make the worst patients.

The risk of having a infectious corneal ulcer from contact lens wear
that will permanently distort your vision and cause a loss of two lines
of acuity or more is about one in 1 in 140,000 cases. The risk of you
having a post-operative surgical result that permanently distorts your
vision is about 2 in ONE HUNDRED.

What do you have to lose? How would living on disability income affect
your ability to raise your children or practice your profession? How
inconvenient is that two minutes that it takes you to put on your
contacts in the morning?

Post subject: Thank you...four eyes saved!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Dr. Minarik,

A mere thank you doesn't seem enough to express our sincere gratitude!
Your points are very well taken. Though the odds are in are favor, it's
just not a risk either one of us is willing to assume. After all we've
learned from this, and many other websites, comfortably wearing
contacts seems like a blessing, rather than the curse I thought it was!

And for anyone considering these procedures, we'll certainly direct
them to your website!

Sincerely,
Kelsey and Nolan

serebel

2005-05-24, 10:55 pm

Minarik,
The question to you had little to do with a bad lasik outcome. This was
more a should I or shouldn't I. It doesn't matter if you're a
physician or a busboy. If you rely on an internet BB to make your
decision for you, you shouldn't have any elective surgery.
You can be an imaginary pop psycologist if you want, all your'e doing
is deluding yourself.

SErebel

Ragnar

2005-05-24, 10:55 pm

Dr. Minarik is so proud of himself for scaring 2 people out of having
LASIK done. What a quack.

On 24 May 2005 12:31:35 -0700, doctor_my_eye@msn.com wrote:

>Another heart-to-heart from DoctorMyEye.com:
>
> DoctorMyEye.com
>THE Place To Go When
>Refractive Surgery Goes Wrong!
>Dr. Kenneth Minarik, O.D.
>
> Requesting your input please...
>
>
> Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 1:56 pm
>
>
>First, let me say thank you for such an informative website!
>
>My husband and I are considering LASIK, but are concerned with much of
>the information we've uncovered on the internet.
>
>Our situation is somewhat unique. My husband is a physician at the
>Cleveland Clinic, and the procedure is provided at no cost to us by the
>hospital. Many, many staff here are taking advantage of this, including
>5 or so in my husband's department and all are very pleased with the
>results.
>
>We've had the introductory appointment which explains the procedure,
>performs the basic tests to see if we're good candidates and we spoke
>at length with the surgeon. His name is Dr. Steven Wilson and he is
>considered to be one of the foremost experts in the field of refractive
>surgery. He has published extensive research in the field, lectures
>frequenty, and has performed over 8,000 procedures. And he has no
>complaints against him with any state medical board!
>
>Our main concerns were the effects we hear so much about, such as halos
>and other visual distortions. He explained that this is usually due to
>the flap being too small, or wrinkles in the flap, neither of which
>should occur under skilled care and appropriate post-op care. Our
>understanding is that complications do occur, but rarely in the hands
>of a skilled surgeon and appropriate care. Of course, now we wonder...
>
>My husband is about -6.75 with astigmatism and the doctor recommended
>conventional LASIK with the Intralase laser for the flap. He said that
>re-correction may be needed in about 15% of cases with my husband's
>correction.
>
>I'm about -2.75 and the doctor recommended Custom Cornea LASIK using
>the microkeratome for me.
>
>If anybody is to have LASIK, this seems to be the right way to do it.
>Experienced surgeon, excellent pre and post op care, new technology...
>But, we are still scared! We mainly desire this because we are very
>active and would love to swim/camp/snorkel without worrying about our
>contacts floating away! But, other than the minor inconvenience, we
>don't have any problems wearing contacts.
>
> So, finally on to our questions! Are most of the complications and
>unhappiness with this procedure because of inexperienced surgeons and
>inappropriate care? Or have many of you had bad experiences with event
>the most highly qualified doctors? Any other advice? We would really
>appreciate your input!
>
>Thank you so much for taking the time to read, and hopefully respond!
>
>Kelsey
>
>
> (Dr. Minarik responds)
>
>
>Location: Rockford,IL
> Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 1:39 am
>Post subject: You are right to be concerned...
>
>..and thanks for the kind words about the website. As you might expect,
>the number of patients that have been disabled by a poor LASIK outcome
>has been dropping from year to year as the procedure improves and the
>lasers and surgeons themselves have become more effective.
>
>With that being said.....
>
>There will always be a small number of patients that will have a
>miserable outcome, even in the hands of a skilled surgeon with
>excellent equipment. One of my favorite expressions is to create the
>analogy as follows: Imagine I am a psychologist who spends his entire
>day working with alcoholics. Imagine you and I are old friends, and
>we've agreed to go out to dinner after work, for the first time in
>years.
>
>At dinner, you manage to drink two glasses of wine before the meal
>arrives. Based on my internal conflicts and my daily battles with
>alcoholism, how do you think I would react to you on a "gut" level?
>
>Let's go back to talking about LASIK...
>
>My gut reaction in your case is particularly adverse, because I know of
>5 physicians that are now drawing permanent disability income from
>their private disability insurance because of their LASIK outcomes.
>Recently one of those 5 actually took his own life as a result of his
>clinical depression that was triggered by his visual disturbances after
>LASIK.
>When a physician suffers a miserable complication that arises from the
>actions of a colleague, the level of betrayal and mistrust that the
>victim feels is even more exaggerated than the betrayal that a
>non-physician feels. I am reminded of an old truism...the cobbler's
>children have no shoes, and physicians make the worst patients.
>
>The risk of having a infectious corneal ulcer from contact lens wear
>that will permanently distort your vision and cause a loss of two lines
>of acuity or more is about one in 1 in 140,000 cases. The risk of you
>having a post-operative surgical result that permanently distorts your
>vision is about 2 in ONE HUNDRED.
>
>What do you have to lose? How would living on disability income affect
>your ability to raise your children or practice your profession? How
>inconvenient is that two minutes that it takes you to put on your
>contacts in the morning?
>
>
>
>Post subject: Thank you...four eyes saved!
>
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Dr. Minarik,
>
>A mere thank you doesn't seem enough to express our sincere gratitude!
>Your points are very well taken. Though the odds are in are favor, it's
>just not a risk either one of us is willing to assume. After all we've
>learned from this, and many other websites, comfortably wearing
>contacts seems like a blessing, rather than the curse I thought it was!
>
>
>And for anyone considering these procedures, we'll certainly direct
>them to your website!
>
>Sincerely,
>Kelsey and Nolan