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| orphee 2005-03-26, 10:22 am |
| Hello
I'm new to this forum, more on the pro-lasik side of the participants. I
look forward getting RS soon.(myopia -3 -2,5, age 39)
That's why i gathered some informations on epi-lasik in a wiki,
http://epilasik.xwiki.com,
following a nice and interesting email from Glenn
If any one interested in the subject, get into the wiki (you can add content
very easily) and we can share informations. I 'll discuss soon with one of
the best doctors experimenting epi-lasik in France
In particular i'd be happy to share the drawbacks of epi-lasik vs othe RS
techniques.
Anti-lasik lobbysts are not welcome in this wiki.
Olivier, Paris, France
email at totoforum AT free dot fr
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| Andrew Chew 2005-03-26, 10:22 am |
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"orphee" <toto@free.fr> wrote in message
news:4244b41e$0$5155$636a15ce@news.free.fr...
> Hello
> I'm new to this forum, more on the pro-lasik side of the participants. I
> look forward getting RS soon.(myopia -3 -2,5, age 39)
> That's why i gathered some informations on epi-lasik in a wiki,
> http://epilasik.xwiki.com,
> following a nice and interesting email from Glenn
> If any one interested in the subject, get into the wiki (you can add
> content
> very easily) and we can share informations. I 'll discuss soon with one of
> the best doctors experimenting epi-lasik in France
> In particular i'd be happy to share the drawbacks of epi-lasik vs othe RS
> techniques.
> Anti-lasik lobbysts are not welcome in this wiki.
Wow, your myopia is very similar to mine. I tried calling the national eye
centre in my country and the lady at the hotline says it's nothing more than
a "glorified PRK". I also did a check on medline and while most articles say
it's a safe procedure, there were some that say it's rather difficult to
create the Lasek flap, and sometimes if the flap doesn't work out, PRK is
performed instead. With PRK you don't have the issue of Lasik flap
complications but then there is higher risk of things like corneal haze etc.
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| orphee 2005-03-26, 10:22 am |
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>i've also red that if the flap creation was not sucessful (ie not properly
made), then it was totally removed and ops turned into PKR. The questions we
could ask is :
* are there parameters for a good flap creation ?
* are there better epi-keratomes than others ?
* what is the %age of sucess of epithelium flap creation (80%?, 95%?)
Orphee
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| Andrew Chew 2005-03-29, 7:24 pm |
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"orphee" <toto@free.fr> wrote in message
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> made), then it was totally removed and ops turned into PKR. The questions
> we
> could ask is :
> * are there parameters for a good flap creation ?
> * are there better epi-keratomes than others ?
> * what is the %age of sucess of epithelium flap creation (80%?, 95%?)
It looks like LASEK is generally well received from all the articles I read.
The following is more likely an exception:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...t_uids=12899471
CONCLUSIONS: LASEK is a challenging procedure. Creating the epithelial flap
is not simple and may have contributed to the high haze incidence in our
study.
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| Ragnar 2005-03-29, 7:24 pm |
| Epi-lasek confuses me. It results in both the PRK related problems
and the LASIK related problems with no advantages over either.
If you don't want LASIK for whatever reason, you might as well go have
PRK done
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:43:00 +0100, "orphee" <toto@free.fr> wrote:
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>made), then it was totally removed and ops turned into PKR. The questions we
>could ask is :
>* are there parameters for a good flap creation ?
>* are there better epi-keratomes than others ?
>* what is the %age of sucess of epithelium flap creation (80%?, 95%?)
>Orphee
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| orphee 2005-04-05, 6:28 pm |
| Ragnar, seems that Epi-Lasik combines PKR &Lasik advantages without
their drawbacks; see:
http://epilasik.xwiki.com/xwiki/bin...Main/Comparison
Andrew, Lasek & Epi-LASIK are different techniques :
* Lasek uses alcohol and a finer blade called a trephine that is used
manually
* Epi-Lasik uses a flexible plasic separator and a dull edge : it's the
mechanical version of Lasek and it avoids epithelium destruction due to
alcohol.
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| Ragnar 2005-04-05, 6:28 pm |
| That's the idea.. especially on a website with the url of
http://epilasil.....
unfortunately, its not true
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 22:33:13 +0200, orphee <toto@free.fr> wrote:
>Ragnar, seems that Epi-Lasik combines PKR &Lasik advantages without
>their drawbacks; see:
>http://epilasik.xwiki.com/xwiki/bin...Main/Comparison
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>Andrew, Lasek & Epi-LASIK are different techniques :
>* Lasek uses alcohol and a finer blade called a trephine that is used
>manually
>* Epi-Lasik uses a flexible plasic separator and a dull edge : it's the
>mechanical version of Lasek and it avoids epithelium destruction due to
>alcohol.
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| orphee 2005-04-05, 6:28 pm |
| Can you tell us more :you seem to be the only one to say it's not true.
Are you one of these anti lasik lobbysts ?
Ragnar a écrit :
> That's the idea.. especially on a website with the url of
> http://epilasil.....
> unfortunately, its not true
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> On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 22:33:13 +0200, orphee <toto@free.fr> wrote:
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| Ragnar 2005-04-05, 6:28 pm |
| now I'm an anti-lasik lobbyist?
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 07:32:40 +0200, orphee <toto@free.fr> wrote:
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>Can you tell us more :you seem to be the only one to say it's not true.
>Are you one of these anti lasik lobbysts ?
>Ragnar a écrit :
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| orphee 2005-04-19, 10:51 am |
| Ok, sorry, you don't seem to be one of them; can you tell me then why
you don't believe in Epi-Lasik ?
(most of RS surgeons interested in new techniques actually do)
Ragnar wrote:
> now I'm an anti-lasik lobbyist?
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