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| Chris H 2005-03-19, 6:24 pm |
| I read throught the Paragon site last night and their CRT treatment has
piqued my interest.
They claim the corrected vision stays w/ you for 1-3 days. This is pretty
good if all you have to do is sleep in the corrective lenses each night.
Are these lenses uncomfortable enough to disrupt sleep?
What is the average cost of a complete CRT treatment? Is there an equal
treatment to Paragon's proprietary treatment?
It seems like it would be easier to sleep in the lenses than to wear them
during the day, thereby allowing your eyes to be uncovered and "breathe"
better. When I first got contacts in '82, I got the B&L daily wear. After a
week or two, my vision got worse and my eyes were irritated and red. The
clinic said they were not allowing my eyes enough O2 which caused them to
distort, or whatever, thereby worsening my vision. They gave me some
thinner lenses by a different mfr. and my eyes weren't as irritated. It
sounds like I had Ortho-K in reverse!!
Shed some light on this treatment please!!
Chris H.
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| CatmanX 2005-03-19, 6:24 pm |
| CRT is one ortho-K system. There are mant, Tabb, BE, R&R, euclid etc.
They work by flattening the central zone and steepening the mid
periphery of your cornea with the net effect of reducing myopia.
OK is now highly predictable, quick and easy for the wearer. THe
sleeping of the lenses is not an issue as the lenses are all made from
high oxygen transmitting lenses and the comfort of an RGP lens is from
the edge, and as you don't blink when you are asleep, you can't feel
them. I had a 10 year old start OK 2 weeks ago and he had no problems
except getting from the kitchen (where he put the lenses in) to his
bed. Once in bed, he was fine.
Costs vary according to practitioner, and what I charge is no really
going to translate to US, but for what it is worth, I charge $1250.00
for the program, which includes all consultations and lenses.
The real benefits of OK are the freedom from optical devices during the
day and its reversibility.
Cheers
grant
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| Ragnar 2005-03-23, 5:43 pm |
| It's a shame that there isn't any credible eye doctor posting to this
newsgroup.. but then I can't recall that there ever was.
Anyway, Chris.. remember that CatmanX is not even a doctor, and if you
read his posts, you can get a good idea about what kind of whacko he
is without me pointing it out.
I'm surprised that even Grant Mason is pushing the idea of ortho-k on
you because your primary problem is presbyopia. Ortho K is no
solution to presbyopia.
I'd suggest you try out monovision with RGP lenses - not the ortho k
type.
If you do decide on the ortho-k option, please tell us how you like
it. I can tell you that my ophthalmologist thinks it should not be
done at all, and also that my OD was very enthusiastic about doing
it.. studyied up on it.. and decided it was not a good course of
action.
On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:56:45 -0600, "Chris H"
<hasek1nospam@airmail.net> wrote:
>I read throught the Paragon site last night and their CRT treatment has
>piqued my interest.
>They claim the corrected vision stays w/ you for 1-3 days. This is pretty
>good if all you have to do is sleep in the corrective lenses each night.
>Are these lenses uncomfortable enough to disrupt sleep?
>What is the average cost of a complete CRT treatment? Is there an equal
>treatment to Paragon's proprietary treatment?
>It seems like it would be easier to sleep in the lenses than to wear them
>during the day, thereby allowing your eyes to be uncovered and "breathe"
>better. When I first got contacts in '82, I got the B&L daily wear. After a
>week or two, my vision got worse and my eyes were irritated and red. The
>clinic said they were not allowing my eyes enough O2 which caused them to
>distort, or whatever, thereby worsening my vision. They gave me some
>thinner lenses by a different mfr. and my eyes weren't as irritated. It
>sounds like I had Ortho-K in reverse!!
>
>Shed some light on this treatment please!!
>
>Chris H.
>
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| Chris H 2005-03-23, 5:43 pm |
| First off, I don't know enough about everyone here to judge who's a quack
and who's not. It sounds like everyone here has their own agenda and we have
a bit of competition going on. Secondly, presby is not my primary problem,
just a problem I don't want to get worse while trying to solve another
problem, which is eliminating myopia to the point that I'm glasses-free.
Next time I go to my dr. to get contact checkup, I'll see if he'll demo a
monovision setup for me.
CRT seems like a safe solution as opposed to laser since you're not ablating
cornea tissue. But CRT might have it's own hassles as well, I don't know.
Thanks.
Chris
"Ragnar" <ragnarsuomi@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:598q31lu3mboeamg59gion4pc7ennevd54@4ax.com...
> It's a shame that there isn't any credible eye doctor posting to this
> newsgroup.. but then I can't recall that there ever was.
> Anyway, Chris.. remember that CatmanX is not even a doctor, and if you
> read his posts, you can get a good idea about what kind of whacko he
> is without me pointing it out.
> I'm surprised that even Grant Mason is pushing the idea of ortho-k on
> you because your primary problem is presbyopia. Ortho K is no
> solution to presbyopia.
> I'd suggest you try out monovision with RGP lenses - not the ortho k
> type.
> If you do decide on the ortho-k option, please tell us how you like
> it. I can tell you that my ophthalmologist thinks it should not be
> done at all, and also that my OD was very enthusiastic about doing
> it.. studyied up on it.. and decided it was not a good course of
> action.
>
>
> On Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:56:45 -0600, "Chris H"
> <hasek1nospam@airmail.net> wrote:
>
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| CatmanX 2005-03-23, 5:43 pm |
| Yes, you are correct. Cliff wants to scare everyone off as this is his
personal site and how fare anyone venture an opinion.
Talk it over with your OD and try monovision as one option. You could
also try modified monovision (one eye as a multifocal CL) or
multifocals. Most OD's will be happy to trial various options to give
you the best satisfaction.
cheers.
grant
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| Ragnar 2005-03-23, 5:43 pm |
| yes.. also ask your OD about Ortho K and watch your optometrist choke
a bit before he shakes his head NO.. bad idea.
Grant keeps missing the name on this newsgroup.. alt.LASIK-eyes
He comes in here periodically trying to fish for new patients for his
expensive, ineffective lenses.
On 20 Mar 2005 12:11:59 -0800, "CatmanX" <grantm@connexus.net.au>
wrote:
>Yes, you are correct. Cliff wants to scare everyone off as this is his
>personal site and how fare anyone venture an opinion.
>
>Talk it over with your OD and try monovision as one option. You could
>also try modified monovision (one eye as a multifocal CL) or
>multifocals. Most OD's will be happy to trial various options to give
>you the best satisfaction.
>
>cheers.
>
>grant
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| CatmanX 2005-03-23, 5:44 pm |
| Sorry Cliffy,
Someone asked a question about OK so I answered it.
You can go and bore Lilith now.
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