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Nevermind the dry eyes, the loss of contrast, poor night vision, GASH, etc. I dont nee
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| I had LASIK surgery 5 years ago. My eyesight was particularly bad and I
was warned I would probably still need glasses afterward. The operation
was painless and after a week I had superhuman eyesight - I could
literally count the individual leaves on a tree 10 miles away. But my
near vision was crap. After a few months it balanced out and I had
perfect 20/20 in both eyes. However, 5 years later and I am still
putting drops in my eyes daily, I can not see nearly as well in near
dark light, I'm overly sensitive to light (like even the LED on the
bottom of my mouse is painful to look at at arms length) and I wear
sunglasses outside most of the time. I'm also susceptible to barometric
pressure where my eyes will go blurry for a day when the weather
changes. Still, I don't need glasses anymore, so I guess it was worth
it.
LOL talk about denial! This is a short story of a guy who had several
complications but hes still happy because he doesnt "need" glasses
anymore! Thats a big tradeoff to not need glasses for the time being
till he regresses and is back in glasses or when presbyopia hits and he
needs reading glasses for anything 1 meter and less. Wow some people
hate glasses so much they are happy at the decreased quality(and often
accuracy) of vision plus other complications like dry eyes.
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| terry@pcxusa.com 2005-12-19, 11:02 am |
| So what..... the bashing posts have been done sooooo many times....I
can't see... My eyes hurt... I have bad night vision now.... boo hoo...
I wish I wouldn't have had lasik... Funny, in my circles, not online,
but out of the people I know in the business world and personally I
would say that 98% seem to be very pleased. How can you guys find so
many "bad outcomes" out there? I guess most of the people I know
aren't stupid and don't go "across the border" to save a few bucks, or
go to a "budget doctor". If you can't afford lasik from a reputable
doctor then you really shouldn't get it done. How is it that you guys
know all of the idiots of the world???
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| In article <1134995190.787304.241830@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
terry@pcxusa.com wrote:
> So what..... the bashing posts have been done sooooo many times....I
> can't see... My eyes hurt... I have bad night vision now.... boo hoo...
> I wish I wouldn't have had lasik... Funny, in my circles, not online,
> but out of the people I know in the business world and personally I
> would say that 98% seem to be very pleased. How can you guys find so
> many "bad outcomes" out there? I guess most of the people I know
> aren't stupid and don't go "across the border" to save a few bucks, or
> go to a "budget doctor". If you can't afford lasik from a reputable
> doctor then you really shouldn't get it done. How is it that you guys
> know all of the idiots of the world???
Because it's the same 5 people who post under multiple aliases.
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~RT
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| Ragnar 2005-12-19, 11:02 am |
| Your posts just get more and more absurd.
You did not count individual leaves on a tree 10 miles away,
Your comments are ridiculous both in the positives and negatives.
On 19 Dec 2005 01:56:20 -0800, "Ace" <acemanvx@yahoo.com> wrote:
>I had LASIK surgery 5 years ago. My eyesight was particularly bad and I
>was warned I would probably still need glasses afterward. The operation
>was painless and after a week I had superhuman eyesight - I could
>literally count the individual leaves on a tree 10 miles away. But my
>near vision was crap. After a few months it balanced out and I had
>perfect 20/20 in both eyes. However, 5 years later and I am still
>putting drops in my eyes daily, I can not see nearly as well in near
>dark light, I'm overly sensitive to light (like even the LED on the
>bottom of my mouse is painful to look at at arms length) and I wear
>sunglasses outside most of the time. I'm also susceptible to barometric
>pressure where my eyes will go blurry for a day when the weather
>changes. Still, I don't need glasses anymore, so I guess it was worth
>it.
>
>
>LOL talk about denial! This is a short story of a guy who had several
>complications but hes still happy because he doesnt "need" glasses
>anymore! Thats a big tradeoff to not need glasses for the time being
>till he regresses and is back in glasses or when presbyopia hits and he
>needs reading glasses for anything 1 meter and less. Wow some people
>hate glasses so much they are happy at the decreased quality(and often
>accuracy) of vision plus other complications like dry eyes.
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| Hey I dont know this guy and his wild claims. I just got his story from
another lasik message board. Many people with the same experience as
him wouldnt be too happy but he hates glasses more than any negetive
outcomes he got from lasik. Hey if hes still happy with all that, more
power! About 90% of people are happy with lasik for better or worse,
they just like not being so dependant on glasses. Surgeons love
lasering people with low expectations like those people. Those with
high and unrealistic expectations should do themselves a favor and not
even bother because they are likley to be disapointed if everything
doesnt go exactly perfect and they get perfect vision.
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| In article <1135024285.380438.22220@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
"Ace" <acemanvx@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hey I dont know this guy and his wild claims. I just got his story from
> another lasik message board.
Exactly. Please post your own material. If that guy wants his story on
alt.lasik-eyes, let him post it himself. Ace, you're like the ant of the
internet, moving stuff here and there at your will. Careful, 'cause
you're gonna get seriously squashed some day.
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~RT
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| CatmanX 2005-12-19, 6:02 pm |
| What sort of dumb XXXX are you Ace. You continue to quote crap from
others, with no substantiating that one word is true. It is probably
Hanson posting under another of his aliases.
And regarding surgeons lasering people with low expectations, how would
you know? How many surgeons do you know personally? Last I looked,
people wanting Lasik all had high expectations from the outcome. This
is why they fork over several thousand hard earneds for the priveledge.
You sure are stupid.
dr grant
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| He wanted his story posted in many places as does everyone with a
good/bad/interesting lasik outcome. Several people are honored I am
doing the favor and hey I dont mind informing others myself.
How do you know he is Hanson? That is an unsubtained claim of your own.
You accuse us of such claims but you make your own claims. Ironic, eh?
High expectations make you a poor candidate for lasik because your not
relistic and setting yourself for disapointment. If me or my friends
had an outcome like that guy, we would definately be disapointed.
Imagine having such dry eyes you need eyedrops all the time. Imagine
impaired night and low light vision. Imagine still needing glasses,
especially reading glasses. Imagine trading your dependancy on glasses
for SUNglasses. More power to him if hes still happy after all that,
its good to be positive but thats not what id call a rosy outcome.
Lasik is considered a last resort for those who reeeeeeeeeeeeeally hate
glasses and cant tolerate contact lenses. There is nothing wrong with
enjoying good vision safely with $100, $200, $300, whatever glasses.
Yes glasses can sometimes be a little inconvinent, almost everyone will
admit this but its something we have to deal with. Glasses may be more
than a little inconvinent for those with very active lives like
athlates so of couse they have more incentive for risky lasik.
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| Ragnar 2005-12-20, 12:55 pm |
| What you are doing is more like being a carrier of small pox for Osama
and spreading it around.
On 19 Dec 2005 17:57:03 -0800, "Ace" <acemanvx@yahoo.com> wrote:
>He wanted his story posted in many places as does everyone with a
>good/bad/interesting lasik outcome. Several people are honored I am
>doing the favor and hey I dont mind informing others myself.
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>How do you know he is Hanson? That is an unsubtained claim of your own.
>You accuse us of such claims but you make your own claims. Ironic, eh?
>High expectations make you a poor candidate for lasik because your not
>relistic and setting yourself for disapointment. If me or my friends
>had an outcome like that guy, we would definately be disapointed.
>Imagine having such dry eyes you need eyedrops all the time. Imagine
>impaired night and low light vision. Imagine still needing glasses,
>especially reading glasses. Imagine trading your dependancy on glasses
>for SUNglasses. More power to him if hes still happy after all that,
>its good to be positive but thats not what id call a rosy outcome.
>Lasik is considered a last resort for those who reeeeeeeeeeeeeally hate
>glasses and cant tolerate contact lenses. There is nothing wrong with
>enjoying good vision safely with $100, $200, $300, whatever glasses.
>Yes glasses can sometimes be a little inconvinent, almost everyone will
>admit this but its something we have to deal with. Glasses may be more
>than a little inconvinent for those with very active lives like
>athlates so of couse they have more incentive for risky lasik.
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| I want to restate that some people are happy despite having
complications. I know someone who was looking to get lasik and he asked
his lasik friends first, all said "we love it, go for it" so he did and
had problems. Afterwards he told his lasik friends what happened and
they said oh, we experienced the same but its no big deal, we are very
happy not to need glasses! Go figure!
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| Glenn - USAEyes.org 2005-12-23, 1:05 am |
| On 22 Dec 2005 19:56:47 -0800, "Ace" <acemanvx@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Go figure!
This is actually easier to figure than it may first appear.
If you were to ask someone who wears glasses or contacts all the time
if they would trade that for needing to use over-the-counter eye drops
three times a day, they would probably say yes. Others may say no.
If you were to ask them if they would trade for having good daytime
vision and needing glasses only for good night vision, they may say
yes also, and some will say no.
Not everybody will get the "20-Minute Miracle". For some, refractive
surgery is a trade off. Whether or not that trade is a good trade
depends totally on the values of the individual.
Glenn Hagele
Executive Director
USAEyes.org
"Consider and Choose With Confidence"
Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org
http://www.USAEyes.org
http://www.ComplicatedEyes.org
I am not a doctor.
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