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Is Glenn Hagele unhappy with his refractive surgery?
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| Gloria 2005-11-11, 3:23 pm |
| "That buck stops at the person with "MD" after the name." My business
does not allow me many moments of repartee but Glenn's pithy comment
lept at me.
I, like most people, are thrilled at the access to information that the
Internet provides, but would rather have someone else stub their toe,
than me. My corneas and other parts of my body are sacrosanct ;).
I work in an information intensive environment. Once in a blue moon,
someone says something that makes me think of something else. The
fairer sex is emotional. What can I say.
Am I off the mark?
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| Glenn - USAEyes.org 2005-11-11, 3:23 pm |
| I'm not really sure what mark you are attempting to be on, so I really
cannot say if you are on it or not.
As for your subject line, my refractive surgery is not finished. When
the process is complete I'll let you know. As for now, I am able to
function without glasses and I have an unrestricted driver's license.
Because I was corrected for monovision I use glasses for distance
vision. I find that my vision after surgery is equal in quality to my
vision before surgery. Thus far all is pretty much what I expected,
with the exception of the epithelial problems I caused early on by not
following my doctor's instructions and overusing the eye drops for
pain. (Ironic, isn't it.)
Lesson learned: follow your doctor's instructions.
Glenn Hagele
Executive Director
USAEyes.org
"Consider and Choose With Confidence"
Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org
http://www.USAEyes.org
http://www.ComplicatedEyes.org
I am not a doctor.
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| Who Ever 2005-11-12, 1:12 am |
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Glenn - USAEyes.org wrote:
> Because I was corrected for monovision I use glasses for distance
> vision.
Am I missing something here? I thought people who are corrected for
monovision usually do so expecting to see both near and far without
glasses.
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| terry@pcxusa.com 2005-11-12, 1:12 am |
| Hi Glenn,
I also "overused" my numbing drops. Well to be honest, my doctor /
nurse told me when my eyes were dry or bothered me I could use either
art. tears or the numbing drops. Pref. the art. tears if they didn't
bother me that much. The first day the sunlight was soooo bad I used
the numbing drops every 15 min pretty much all day! Is that considered
"overusing"???
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| Glenn - USAEyes.org 2005-11-12, 1:12 am |
| At best, monovision will provide near and distance vision without
glasses most of the time. When I'm driving or when I need excellent
distance vision, I use glasses that fully correct me.
Glenn Hagele
Executive Director
USAEyes.org
"Consider and Choose With Confidence"
Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org
http://www.USAEyes.org
http://www.ComplicatedEyes.org
I am not a doctor.
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| Glenn - USAEyes.org 2005-11-12, 1:12 am |
| Much depends upon the active agent in the numbing drops and at what
dilution. Overuse of anything is when you screw up your epithelium or
otherwise cause problems. It is virtually impossible to overuse
artificial tears.
Glenn Hagele
Executive Director
USAEyes.org
"Consider and Choose With Confidence"
Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org
http://www.USAEyes.org
http://www.ComplicatedEyes.org
I am not a doctor.
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| CatmanX 2005-11-12, 6:12 pm |
| The purpose of an anaesthetic is to muck up the epithelium, that is how
they work. You should not be using anaesthetics post RS FULL STOP.
Lubricants are another story, use them as much as you can.
dr grant
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| Ragnar 2005-11-13, 6:02 pm |
| It is so rare that grant posts anything useful, I felt I should point
this one out. That is a great and consise explanation for the
difference in the eyedrops.
On 12 Nov 2005 11:09:06 -0800, "CatmanX" <grantm@connexus.net.au>
wrote:
>The purpose of an anaesthetic is to muck up the epithelium, that is how
>they work. You should not be using anaesthetics post RS FULL STOP.
>Lubricants are another story, use them as much as you can.
>
>dr grant
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| Glenn,
When will your refractive surgery be finished? I thought it was
supposed to be a quick, easy and fairly painless process? People with
20/40 vision can 'function' without glasses and obtain an unrestricted
drivers license, but 20/40 is NOT good vision!
Have you taken the wavefront challenge? How do your pre-op higher order
aberrations compare with your post-op higher order aberrations? How do
they compare at your scotopic pupil size (this is the key question).
Were you left with any residual astigmatism... or worse... was
astigmatism INDUCED in your eyes as it is for so many?
Are epithelial erosions really as painful as some say?
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| serebel 2005-11-20, 1:01 am |
| Eye is going to diagnose Glenn over the internet. He's such a wise loon.
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| It depends on the quality of vision. Someone can be 20/20 and see
glare, haze, double, ghosting, starbursts and crappy night vision while
another 20/40 has much better quality of vision. I would not be
supprised if my 20/30 BCVA is better than someone's 20/20 lasik vision
in eye tests other than the snellen such as a contrast chart
I still have a question for you eye, how well do you see now? 20/30?
What was your pescription before lasik and were you corrected to 20/15
with glasses? How large are your dilated pupils and how large a zone
did you get lasered?
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| Glenn - USAEyes.org 2005-11-20, 12:59 pm |
| Let's be frank, "Eye". You have absolutely no interest in my
refractive surgery other than to attempt to twist anything I say to
fit your anti-LASIK agenda. I choose not to participate.
Glenn Hagele
Executive Director
USAEyes.org
"Consider and Choose With Confidence"
Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org
http://www.USAEyes.org
http://www.ComplicatedEyes.org
I am not a doctor.
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| Gloria 2005-11-21, 1:00 am |
| Glenn. I think you can rise even higher above this and ignore agendas.
You have the opportunity to relate your experience on a regular basis.
It was brave of you to put your money where eyes are, pardon the pun.
People can be educated through your honesty. I see this as a golden
opportunity for you to be a walking, talking testament to your
organization's mission. I say go for it. Not many people have a chance
to share because they care from such an intimate core. You can make a
real statement.
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| Glenn - USAEyes.org 2005-11-21, 5:59 pm |
| A quick search of this newsgroup would reveal that I have already
talked about my personal experience with refractive surgery and that
my experience is not yet complete so no definite conclusions can be
made other than one really should follow the advice of one's surgeon.
Glenn Hagele
Executive Director
USAEyes.org
"Consider and Choose With Confidence"
Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org
http://www.USAEyes.org
http://www.ComplicatedEyes.org
I am not a doctor.
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| serebel 2005-11-22, 1:02 am |
| But the loons here are dying to diagnose your "disaster" over the
internet. Please don't rain on their parade. 
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| Sounds like Glenn's outcome wasn't so great. He'd definitely be
bragging about it if it were.
Glenn, since LASIK causes nerve damage, thins and weakens the cornea,
causes permanent pathology, loss of contrast sensitivity and induces
corneal distortions that cannot be fixed by glasses, what responsible
person would NOT be anti-LASIK and 'out there' informing the public to
the best of their ability?
Now that you know how badly refractive surgery really stinks, why don't
you consider helping out?
Good grief!
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| serebel 2005-11-22, 1:02 am |
| Hey, "eye", Glenn had PRK. He is also not one to brag over anything.
Also, please answer "ace's" question before he pees his pants.
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| Glenn - USAEyes.org 2005-11-22, 1:02 am |
| I've already responded to this query. I do not wish to respond again
and again.
Glenn Hagele
Executive Director
USAEyes.org
"Consider and Choose With Confidence"
Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org
http://www.USAEyes.org
http://www.ComplicatedEyes.org
I am not a doctor.
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| In article <1132632125.934786.311760@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Ace" <acemanvx@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Eye, at least you can help out. I have asked you questions in several
> topics. Are you also trying to hide your bad results eye? Come forward
> with those and inform me and the public!
Hey Ace, figured out yet why "Eye" refuses to answer?
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~RT
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| Gloria 2005-11-23, 1:00 am |
| Did you know that a second operation was in your future? Please share
your progress! Thank you.
Glenn - USAEyes.org wrote:
> I've already responded to this query. I do not wish to respond again
> and again.
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> Glenn Hagele
> Executive Director
> USAEyes.org
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> "Consider and Choose With Confidence"
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> Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org
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> http://www.USAEyes.org
> http://www.ComplicatedEyes.org
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> I am not a doctor.
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| serebel 2005-11-23, 1:00 am |
| Gloria,
Eye has already diagnosed me with complications, why not Glenn?
Heckuva crystal ball eh?
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| Gloria 2005-11-24, 12:55 pm |
| what is a serebel? how do you pronounce that? like "cerbil" that rhymes
with "gerbil"? anyway, no I was trying to understand if using too many
drops made a second surgery necessary. there is so much hostility here!
serebel wrote:
> Gloria,
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> Eye has already diagnosed me with complications, why not Glenn?
> Heckuva crystal ball eh?
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| Glenn - USAEyes.org 2005-11-24, 5:58 pm |
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SE is for SurgicalEyes. Rebel is as it commonly means. SERebel vocally
rebelled against SurgicalEyes when it was directed by Ron Link and has
not exactly endorsed the new SurgicalEyes administration.
Glenn Hagele
Executive Director
USAEyes.org
"Consider and Choose With Confidence"
Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org
http://www.USAEyes.org
http://www.ComplicatedEyes.org
I am not a doctor.
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| Did Glenn accidentally answer that question when he was logged in with
the wrong screen name?
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| serebel 2005-11-27, 12:59 am |
| How ironic. This one here (keller), who posts under many screen names
calling the kettle....... well, you know.
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| Ragnar 2005-11-27, 10:59 am |
| Keller considers truth, accuracy, and reality to be irrelievant. She
gets a thrill out of being a thorn in the foot of reality.
..On 26 Nov 2005 22:12:48 -0800, "serebel" <serebel@aol.com> wrote:
>How ironic. This one here (keller), who posts under many screen names
>calling the kettle....... well, you know.
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| Gloria 2005-11-28, 1:00 am |
| I am so confused by the hatefulness in your posts. You seem to know
about computers, but you also seem to enjoy hurting people. Why is this
so? I know you're just a "cyber person", but your anger and mean spirit
is honestly sort of scary.
Ragnar wrote:[vbcol=seagreen]
> Keller considers truth, accuracy, and reality to be irrelievant. She
> gets a thrill out of being a thorn in the foot of reality.
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> .On 26 Nov 2005 22:12:48 -0800, "serebel" <serebel@aol.com> wrote:
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| serebel 2005-11-28, 1:00 am |
| What hatefulness? I don't hate anyone. Don't confuse sarcasm with hate,
it's not even close.
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| Glenn - USAEyes.org 2005-11-28, 1:00 am |
| I don't know what is on your screen, but mine shows my usual name and
I believe that this posting was from our main computer. In any case,
it is clearly identified as from me.
Glenn Hagele
Executive Director
USAEyes.org
"Consider and Choose With Confidence"
Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org
http://www.USAEyes.org
http://www.ComplicatedEyes.org
I am not a doctor.
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| Ragnar 2005-11-28, 5:59 pm |
| If pointing out that someone who is insane is in fact truly insane is
being mean.. then yes.. I am mean.
I know a lot more than just computers. I am highly ejumakated.
On 27 Nov 2005 20:14:23 -0800, "Gloria" <bubblyoil@yahoo.com> wrote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
>I am so confused by the hatefulness in your posts. You seem to know
>about computers, but you also seem to enjoy hurting people. Why is this
>so? I know you're just a "cyber person", but your anger and mean spirit
>is honestly sort of scary.
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>Ragnar wrote:
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| Ragnar 2005-11-28, 5:59 pm |
| I hate some people. Osama, Keller, Adam Sandler, Janice & Omarosa on
Surreal Life, Kum Jung Ill in North Korea...
On 27 Nov 2005 20:18:45 -0800, "serebel" <serebel@aol.com> wrote:
>What hatefulness? I don't hate anyone. Don't confuse sarcasm with hate,
>it's not even close.
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| Gloria 2005-11-29, 1:01 am |
| It looks like you make up things that match how set you are on hurting
someone. I just saw that movie Good Night, Good Luck and I thought
about you. That's creepy! I'm not a psychologist. but it still is
scary.
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