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Dr. Gemoules is a widely-known internet liar
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| Ragnar 2005-01-27, 8:52 am |
| On 22 Jan 2005 17:18:48 -0800, "Dr. Leukoma" <drg@leukoma.com> wrote:
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>Ragnar wrote:
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>I do not take 2 tablespoons of fish oil per day. I take 8 capsules of
>salmon oil per day. that is 8 grams, which is not quite TWO TEASPOONS.
>I have been taking salmon oil daily for more than two decades for the
>aches and pains of an active lifestyle, which includes daily rigorous
>physical activity. Salmon oil acts as an anti-inflammatory and has
>other cardiovascular benefits. Of course, I tolerate contact lenses
>quite well, which may or may not be a side-effect of the salmon oil.
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>What I recommend to patients who have dry eye is to start taking about
>two to four capsules per/day. This might also benefit post-refractive
>surgery patients who have dry eye.
You said two tablespoons.
And while you are at it, we are back on this dry eye thing again. Dry
eyes are not the same as the condition known as dry eye. Dry eye is
a very serious condition. Of course you know that, but as always,
you are trying to scare people.
For those of you who aren't familiar with the dry eye discussion.
There are times when everybody goes reaching for the Visine or that
stuff Ben Stein advertises for. Also, every contact lens wearer knows
about lubricating drops. Just because someone has dry eyes does not
mean they have "Dry Eye" which is a serious condition in which the eye
can shriviel up like a prune.
Once again, leave it to Gemoules to spread misinformation - knowingly
- to try and scare people.
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| Dr. Leukoma 2005-01-27, 8:52 am |
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Ragnar wrote:
> On 22 Jan 2005 17:18:48 -0800, "Dr. Leukoma" <drg@leukoma.com> wrote:
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> You said two tablespoons.
Never said, couldn't have, cause never did. I have always taken salmon
oil capsules, and never two tablespoons.
Advice: If you attribute something to someone, better be able to prove
it.
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> And while you are at it, we are back on this dry eye thing again.
Dry
> eyes are not the same as the condition known as dry eye. Dry eye
is
> a very serious condition. Of course you know that, but as always,
> you are trying to scare people.
Dry eye is a continuum, ranging from subclinical to severe. Sjorgren's
Syndrome and Stephen's-Johnson Syndrome are on the severe end of the
spectrum. Post-LASIK dry eye can be severe as well.
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> For those of you who aren't familiar with the dry eye discussion.
> There are times when everybody goes reaching for the Visine or that
> stuff Ben Stein advertises for. Also, every contact lens wearer
knows
> about lubricating drops. Just because someone has dry eyes does not
> mean they have "Dry Eye" which is a serious condition in which the
eye
> can shriviel up like a prune.
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> Once again, leave it to Gemoules to spread misinformation - knowingly
> - to try and scare people.
Leave it to Ragnar to trivialize dry eye. Perhaps Ragnar can spend
some quality time in a locked room with some of the post-LASIK dry eye
patients who populate the internet.
DrG
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| Ragnar 2005-01-27, 8:52 am |
| The people who folow this newsgroup are well aware that you have said
two tablespoons... and there was some mention of black currant oil
too.
Anyway.. that isn't all that relevant. The proper dosage for the
fish oil is 2 capsules.. not 8. That is absurd.
On 25 Jan 2005 08:59:43 -0800, "Dr. Leukoma" <drg@leukoma.com> wrote:
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>Ragnar wrote:
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>Never said, couldn't have, cause never did. I have always taken salmon
>oil capsules, and never two tablespoons.
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>Advice: If you attribute something to someone, better be able to prove
>it.
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>Dry
>is
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>Dry eye is a continuum, ranging from subclinical to severe. Sjorgren's
>Syndrome and Stephen's-Johnson Syndrome are on the severe end of the
>spectrum. Post-LASIK dry eye can be severe as well.
>knows
>eye
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>Leave it to Ragnar to trivialize dry eye. Perhaps Ragnar can spend
>some quality time in a locked room with some of the post-LASIK dry eye
>patients who populate the internet.
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>DrG
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"Ragnar" <ragnarsuomi@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:e52ev05mbbc7kl81vfatq93nik1sdi3a23@4ax.com...
> The people who folow this newsgroup are well aware that you have said
> two tablespoons... and there was some mention of black currant oil
> too.
> Anyway.. that isn't all that relevant. The proper dosage for the
> fish oil is 2 capsules.. not 8. That is absurd.
If his capsules are the same as the ones I was taking the reccommended dose
is 2 x 3 times per day Rags. These are very big capsules too.
Wal
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| Sandy - LASIKdisaster.com - LASIKmemorial.com 2005-01-28, 8:11 am |
| Christopher, why don't you just do a search on this newsgroup and link
to that post. Surely you can do that if it exists anywhere except for
in your mind.
When you are done with that, what is the proper dosage for ibuprofen?
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| Sandy - LASIKdisaster.com - LASIKmemorial.com 2005-01-28, 8:11 am |
| I am so confused, Christopher. I have had dry eyes since before lasik,
but now I have one eye that is considerably drier than the other. Do I
have "dry eye" in my left eye, and "dry eyes" in my right eye? Or two
"dry eyes" and I should fear that they are shriveling? Or just "dry
eye" and I'll be fine? Please let me know as soon as possible.
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| Ragnar 2005-01-28, 8:11 am |
| I think you pretty much answered your own question.
You had dry eyes (which isn't the same as the condition known as "dry
eye") before LASIK. Did your doctors tell you that having LASIK done
would cure your dryness problems?
You are suffering from dryness. Most people's eyes get drier as they
age, some even OVER produce tears.
The difference between dry eyes and the "dry eye" condition is like
the difference between a dry flaking skin and leperosy.
Dr. Gemoules knows that, but he likes to scare people with the term
"Dry Eye"
Next time you go to the drugstore to buy Jergen's lotion, ask them if
that works for leperosy also.
On 27 Jan 2005 10:15:23 -0800, "Sandy - LASIKdisaster.com -
LASIKmemorial.com" <sandy@savvysneaks.com> wrote:
>I am so confused, Christopher. I have had dry eyes since before lasik,
>but now I have one eye that is considerably drier than the other. Do I
>have "dry eye" in my left eye, and "dry eyes" in my right eye? Or two
>"dry eyes" and I should fear that they are shriveling? Or just "dry
>eye" and I'll be fine? Please let me know as soon as possible.
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| Glenn - USAEyes.org 2005-01-28, 8:11 am |
| Hmmm. Isn't this EXACTLY what I asked you to do when you recently
accused me of saying something? You claimed you were just too busy.
Yeah.
Glenn Hagele
Executive Director
Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org
http://www.USAEyes.org
http://www.ComplicatedEyes.org
I am not a doctor.
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| Ragnar 2005-01-28, 8:11 am |
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On 27 Jan 2005 10:09:49 -0800, "Sandy - LASIKdisaster.com -
LASIKmemorial.com" <sandy@savvysneaks.com> wrote:
>Christopher, why don't you just do a search on this newsgroup and link
>to that post. Surely you can do that if it exists anywhere except for
>in your mind.
>When you are done with that, what is the proper dosage for ibuprofen?
I don't know why you are asking about that here, but's it's an
important question. I think the proper dosage is 1 every 12 hours.
that is just my guess. Anyway, the point is that people do make the
mistake of overdosing. I knew of a guy in college whose father had
ulcers and kept taking more and more aspirin to deal with the pain.
He died of aspirin poisoning! The valedictorian of my high school
(no, it wasn't me) had a bad cold the day of her valedictorian speech.
She took TEN Contac cold capsules to combat her cold. What a dummy!
More is not better in medications. Then there is steroid abuse of
every kind.
It came out a few months ago that too much vitamin E is bad for you.
And Vitamin A overdosing is a toxic problem.
The reason your post is relevant is that it fits right in with the
topic of mister Gemoules and his two tablespoons of oil regimen. Even
8 capsules is overdosing.
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| Dr. Leukoma 2005-01-28, 8:11 am |
| Dry Eye. BOO!
DrG
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| Sandy - LASIKdisaster.com - LASIKmemorial.com 2005-01-28, 8:11 am |
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Ragnar wrote:
> I think you pretty much answered your own question.
> You had dry eyes (which isn't the same as the condition known as "dry
> eye") before LASIK. Did your doctors tell you that having LASIK
done
> would cure your dryness problems?
> You are suffering from dryness. Most people's eyes get drier as they
> age, some even OVER produce tears.
> The difference between dry eyes and the "dry eye" condition is like
> the difference between a dry flaking skin and leperosy.
>
Now I am more concerned than ever. Is "dryness" "dry eye" or "dry
eyes"?
By the way, my "doctors" didn't tell me that I had "dryness" prior to
lasik. I found out much later. My attorneys actually broke the news
to me. It wouldn't have mattered though. "Dry eyes" prior to lasik is
probably a poor predictor of "dry eye" post-lasik. Or, is it the other
way around..."dry eye" prior to lasik is probably a poor predictor of
"dry eyes" post-lasik....???? Warped corneas prior to lasik are
probably a poor predictor of irregular astigmatism post-lasik as well.
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| Sandy - LASIKdisaster.com - LASIKmemorial.com 2005-01-28, 8:11 am |
| I have a family and we're in the middle of building a new house AND
doing major remodeling on the rental house we are living in while we
are staying here. One bathroom is completely gutted right now. I own
two businesses which my daughter will eventually take over, and we are
starting a third so our sons will have the same opportunity. I just
don't have enough to do, Hagele!!!
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| Glenn - USAEyes.org 2005-01-28, 8:11 am |
| And yet you have time to make accusations against me and make long
excuses about not being able to substantiate your accusation.
Since you are so busy, why not stop making accusations that you are
not willing to substantiate.
Glenn Hagele
Executive Director
Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org
http://www.USAEyes.org
http://www.ComplicatedEyes.org
I am not a doctor.
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| Ragnar 2005-01-28, 8:11 am |
| The man has lost his mind folks.
On 27 Jan 2005 15:47:48 -0800, "Dr. Leukoma" <drg@leukoma.com> wrote:
>Dry Eye. BOO!
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>DrG
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| Ragnar 2005-01-28, 8:11 am |
| you don't get Dry Eye from LASIK, however you can expect dry eyes at
least for a few months after the operation. They make things called
eye drops for that problem. Systane was my favorite.. and the gel
types such as Refresh PM and Genteal Gel.
On 27 Jan 2005 19:35:33 -0800, "Sandy - LASIKdisaster.com -
LASIKmemorial.com" <sandy@savvysneaks.com> wrote:
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>Ragnar wrote:
>done
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>Now I am more concerned than ever. Is "dryness" "dry eye" or "dry
>eyes"?
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>By the way, my "doctors" didn't tell me that I had "dryness" prior to
>lasik. I found out much later. My attorneys actually broke the news
>to me. It wouldn't have mattered though. "Dry eyes" prior to lasik is
>probably a poor predictor of "dry eye" post-lasik. Or, is it the other
>way around..."dry eye" prior to lasik is probably a poor predictor of
>"dry eyes" post-lasik....???? Warped corneas prior to lasik are
>probably a poor predictor of irregular astigmatism post-lasik as well.
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