Lasik Eyes Surgery - T +1 day from surgery

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T +1 day from surgery

Todd Rich

2005-01-27, 8:52 am

Well, I got the surgery yesterday. Got there about 11:20 as scheduled.
Spent the next 3 hours going from one test to the next. Btw, they used a
different pupilometer there. Shields around the eyes, and checked under 3
different lighting conditions. The darkest had: Left eye 5.14mm, Right
eye 5.45mm.

Anyway, I finally got into surgery about 3:30pm. The doctor was very good
about talking through the surgery and explaining what was going to happen
before it did. (Also doing the reserach and knowing exactly what was
going on at each step did help with the anxiety quit a bit.) No pain.
The microkeratome was noiser than I expected. Had no problem keeping my
eye fixed on the tracking LED. It was actually interesting to see the
changes in my fuzzy vision as the laser was working. Flaps seemed to go
back on nice. As they sat me up, I could see a dry erase board with my
name on it across the room. Nice touch. Anyway, I was wheeled back to
the recovery room. They had a snack and drink waiting. They gave me
another rundown of the post-operative instructions and then wheeled me to
another exam room to take a look at my eyes. Examiner was satisfied with
how it looks and sent me home. On the way home the numming drops started
wearing off and my eyes started to hurt a fair amount. Finally got to the
pharmacy and got the darvocet. Home was only a block away, so I waited
until I got home and then took the pill and went to bed. Managed sleep
about 12 hours (well about 5 hour into it I woke up because my eyes were
still hurting and took a second darvocet).

Got up this morning, and my eyes didn't hurt. I can see clearly with
nothing weird visually, other than a sense that straight lines at the edge
of my vision are bending out. That I figure is my mind getting use to the
fact that I no longer have glasses curving straight lines at the edge of
my vision anymore.

I've started taking the anti-inflamitory drops, the antibiotic drops and
the artifical tears as well.

Very positive experience for me.
Todd

2005-01-27, 8:52 am

In article <cstnul$aba$1@reader2.panix.com>,
Todd Rich <torin@panix.com> wrote:
>
> Very positive experience for me.
> Todd

Congrats! Hope it continues to go well for you.

--
~RT

Ragnar

2005-01-27, 8:52 am

Sounds like a winner to me. I didn't get a snack after my surgery..
but they do have a free cappucino machine.
The noise you heard was probably the clicking of the laser system and
not the microkeratome.

Now you can look forward to some of the parasites in this newgroup
trying to convince you that your procedure went badly and that you
need to get their $2000 contact lenses.

One odd thing.. 5.14mm and 5.45mm on the pupil measurements. They
can't measure to that accuracy because the pupils vary in size
constantly. Typically they go in .5 mm increments. It's kind of like
a person's height. A person is tallest in the morning when there
spine is relaxed and at full length. During the day, your spine
compresses by an inch or two or three due to the weight it's carrying
(your head and shoulders, etc).

On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 14:28:37 +0000 (UTC), Todd Rich <torin@panix.com>
wrote:

>Well, I got the surgery yesterday. Got there about 11:20 as scheduled.
>Spent the next 3 hours going from one test to the next. Btw, they used a
>different pupilometer there. Shields around the eyes, and checked under 3
>different lighting conditions. The darkest had: Left eye 5.14mm, Right
>eye 5.45mm.
>
>Anyway, I finally got into surgery about 3:30pm. The doctor was very good
>about talking through the surgery and explaining what was going to happen
>before it did. (Also doing the reserach and knowing exactly what was
>going on at each step did help with the anxiety quit a bit.) No pain.
>The microkeratome was noiser than I expected. Had no problem keeping my
>eye fixed on the tracking LED. It was actually interesting to see the
>changes in my fuzzy vision as the laser was working. Flaps seemed to go
>back on nice. As they sat me up, I could see a dry erase board with my
>name on it across the room. Nice touch. Anyway, I was wheeled back to
>the recovery room. They had a snack and drink waiting. They gave me
>another rundown of the post-operative instructions and then wheeled me to
>another exam room to take a look at my eyes. Examiner was satisfied with
>how it looks and sent me home. On the way home the numming drops started
>wearing off and my eyes started to hurt a fair amount. Finally got to the
>pharmacy and got the darvocet. Home was only a block away, so I waited
>until I got home and then took the pill and went to bed. Managed sleep
>about 12 hours (well about 5 hour into it I woke up because my eyes were
>still hurting and took a second darvocet).
>
>Got up this morning, and my eyes didn't hurt. I can see clearly with
>nothing weird visually, other than a sense that straight lines at the edge
>of my vision are bending out. That I figure is my mind getting use to the
>fact that I no longer have glasses curving straight lines at the edge of
>my vision anymore.
>
>I've started taking the anti-inflamitory drops, the antibiotic drops and
>the artifical tears as well.
>
>Very positive experience for me.
> Todd

Simpledog

2005-01-27, 8:52 am

And to think I thought Dr. Phil was really smart.

"Ragnar" <ragnarsuomi@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:6n65v09411tv822rqel0vqvehieehe1opt@4ax.com...
> Sounds like a winner to me. I didn't get a snack after my surgery..
> but they do have a free cappucino machine.
> The noise you heard was probably the clicking of the laser system and
> not the microkeratome.
>
> Now you can look forward to some of the parasites in this newgroup
> trying to convince you that your procedure went badly and that you
> need to get their $2000 contact lenses.
>
> One odd thing.. 5.14mm and 5.45mm on the pupil measurements. They
> can't measure to that accuracy because the pupils vary in size
> constantly. Typically they go in .5 mm increments. It's kind of like
> a person's height. A person is tallest in the morning when there
> spine is relaxed and at full length. During the day, your spine
> compresses by an inch or two or three due to the weight it's carrying
> (your head and shoulders, etc).
>
>
> On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 14:28:37 +0000 (UTC), Todd Rich <torin@panix.com>
> wrote:
>
>

Wal

2005-01-27, 8:52 am

Glad you had a good result Todd. Keep us informed of your progress.

Hey have you ever noticed how the anti's never congratulat someone who has
had a good result!!

How about it Barndog, Sandy, Brent !!!

I'm happy for you anyway mate and hope you continue to be glasses'less for a
long time to come.

Regards
Wal

"Todd Rich" <torin@panix.com> wrote in message
news:cstnul$aba$1@reader2.panix.com...
> Well, I got the surgery yesterday. Got there about 11:20 as scheduled.
> Spent the next 3 hours going from one test to the next. Btw, they used a
> different pupilometer there. Shields around the eyes, and checked under 3
> different lighting conditions. The darkest had: Left eye 5.14mm, Right
> eye 5.45mm.
>
> Anyway, I finally got into surgery about 3:30pm. The doctor was very good
> about talking through the surgery and explaining what was going to happen
> before it did. (Also doing the reserach and knowing exactly what was
> going on at each step did help with the anxiety quit a bit.) No pain.
> The microkeratome was noiser than I expected. Had no problem keeping my
> eye fixed on the tracking LED. It was actually interesting to see the
> changes in my fuzzy vision as the laser was working. Flaps seemed to go
> back on nice. As they sat me up, I could see a dry erase board with my
> name on it across the room. Nice touch. Anyway, I was wheeled back to
> the recovery room. They had a snack and drink waiting. They gave me
> another rundown of the post-operative instructions and then wheeled me to
> another exam room to take a look at my eyes. Examiner was satisfied with
> how it looks and sent me home. On the way home the numming drops started
> wearing off and my eyes started to hurt a fair amount. Finally got to the
> pharmacy and got the darvocet. Home was only a block away, so I waited
> until I got home and then took the pill and went to bed. Managed sleep
> about 12 hours (well about 5 hour into it I woke up because my eyes were
> still hurting and took a second darvocet).
>
> Got up this morning, and my eyes didn't hurt. I can see clearly with
> nothing weird visually, other than a sense that straight lines at the edge
> of my vision are bending out. That I figure is my mind getting use to the
> fact that I no longer have glasses curving straight lines at the edge of
> my vision anymore.
>
> I've started taking the anti-inflamitory drops, the antibiotic drops and
> the artifical tears as well.
>
> Very positive experience for me.
> Todd

Todd Rich

2005-01-27, 8:52 am

Ragnar <ragnarsuomi@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Sounds like a winner to me. I didn't get a snack after my surgery..
> but they do have a free cappucino machine.
> The noise you heard was probably the clicking of the laser system and
> not the microkeratome.

No, the microkeratome was the noise I heard early on in the surgery where
my vision went dark and sounded like a dremel on high. The laser was a
more spaced out clicking sound. Kind of like electrical sparks.

> Now you can look forward to some of the parasites in this newgroup
> trying to convince you that your procedure went badly and that you
> need to get their $2000 contact lenses.

> One odd thing.. 5.14mm and 5.45mm on the pupil measurements. They
> can't measure to that accuracy because the pupils vary in size
> constantly. Typically they go in .5 mm increments. It's kind of like
> a person's height. A person is tallest in the morning when there
> spine is relaxed and at full length. During the day, your spine
> compresses by an inch or two or three due to the weight it's carrying
> (your head and shoulders, etc).

Well, those were the numbers on the computer screen next to the machine.
I figured that was why the first doctor rounded to just 5mm.
Todd

Todd Rich

2005-01-27, 8:52 am

Wal <notmewally@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Glad you had a good result Todd. Keep us informed of your progress.

Thanks. I'll probably post after each of my follow up visits.

> Hey have you ever noticed how the anti's never congratulat someone who has
> had a good result!!

> How about it Barndog, Sandy, Brent !!!

> I'm happy for you anyway mate and hope you continue to be glasses'less for a
> long time to come.

Well, at least for another 6-9 years until I start to need reading
glasses.

> Regards
> Wal

Todd

serebel

2005-01-27, 8:52 am

Todd,

Best of luck going forward. Any questions, feel free to post here any
time.

SErebel

Sandy - LASIKdisaster.com - LASIKmemorial.com

2005-01-27, 8:52 am

Wal wrote:
> Glad you had a good result Todd. Keep us informed of your progress.
>
> Hey have you ever noticed how the anti's never congratulat someone
who has
> had a good result!!
>
> How about it Barndog, Sandy, Brent !!!
>

Hi Todd. I'm happy that you're happy so far. I hope that the corneal
strength remaining after the flap was cut is enough to get you through
a lifetime of intraocular pressure. I hope nothing ever hits you in
the eye and causes a flap dislocation. I hope that when you become
presbyopic and realize that you can't just take your glasses off to
read or work on something small, you don't regret having your near
vision burned away. What do you expect me to say, Wal? I don't
believe that lasik is good for the eyes, so how can I congratulate
someone on having it done????
LASIK: The more you know, the worse it looks.

serebel

2005-01-27, 8:52 am

Sandy -wrote:
corneal[vbcol=seagreen]
> strength remaining after the flap was cut is enough to get you
through
> a lifetime of intraocular pressure. I hope nothing ever hits you in
> the eye and causes a flap dislocation. I hope that when you become
> presbyopic and realize that you can't just take your glasses off to
> read or work on something small, you don't regret having your near
> vision burned away. What do you expect me to say, Wal? I don't
> believe that lasik is good for the eyes, so how can I congratulate
> someone on having it done????
> LASIK: The more you know, the worse it looks.

Sandy, you have got to be the most crass individual going.

I hope your bridal shop does'nt burn to the ground with your little
loved ones trapped inside, screaming in agony as the fire kills them
slowly.
See, I'm wishing you well. How does it feel to be "wished well" this
way?

SErebel

serebel

2005-01-27, 8:52 am

serebel

2005-01-27, 8:52 am

Wal

2005-01-27, 8:52 am

"Sandy - LASIKdisaster.com - LASIKmemorial.com" <sandy@savvysneaks.com>
wrote in message
news:1106451131.113904.14850@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>
> Wal wrote:
> who has
>
> Hi Todd. I'm happy that you're happy so far. I hope that the corneal
> strength remaining after the flap was cut is enough to get you through
> a lifetime of intraocular pressure. I hope nothing ever hits you in
> the eye and causes a flap dislocation. I hope that when you become
> presbyopic and realize that you can't just take your glasses off to
> read or work on something small, you don't regret having your near
> vision burned away. What do you expect me to say, Wal? I don't
> believe that lasik is good for the eyes, so how can I congratulate
> someone on having it done????
> LASIK: The more you know, the worse it looks.
>

This is the type of congratulations we have come to expect from you Sandy.

I think Serebel's post hit the nail on the head.

All the best Todd. If you have read this NG for longer than a few days
you'll know that you can expect these sorts of remarks from Sandy.

Wal

Todd Rich

2005-01-27, 8:52 am

Sandy - LASIKdisaster.com - LASIKmemorial.com <sandy@savvysneaks.com> wrote:

> Wal wrote:
> who has
[vbcol=seagreen]
> Hi Todd. I'm happy that you're happy so far. I hope that the corneal
> strength remaining after the flap was cut is enough to get you through
> a lifetime of intraocular pressure.

Corneal thickness was 515 microns before surgery. Enough room at my
perscription to leave more than 250 after.

> I hope nothing ever hits you in
> the eye and causes a flap dislocation.

I was aware of this posibility before having surgery. It was factor into
my decision to have it done.

> I hope that when you become
> presbyopic and realize that you can't just take your glasses off to
> read or work on something small, you don't regret having your near
> vision burned away.

I do jewelry work as a hobby, and I never took off my glasses to look at
something closely. Something about not taking off safety glasses. I've
known about presbyopia since my early twenties, and that Lasik will have
no effect on it's progression. For me personally, I would rather do
without glasses for 80% of the time rather than 20%.

> What do you expect me to say, Wal? I don't
> believe that lasik is good for the eyes, so how can I congratulate
> someone on having it done????
> LASIK: The more you know, the worse it looks.

Not for me. But then I did my research into BEFORE I had it done.

Todd

Ragnar

2005-01-27, 8:52 am

You got that right Wal.. and SeRebel.. you KNOW that it would give her
so much satisfaction if Mr. T + 1 had complications.

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 17:45:05 +1000, "Wal" <notmewally@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>
>"Sandy - LASIKdisaster.com - LASIKmemorial.com" <sandy@savvysneaks.com>
>wrote in message
>news:1106451131.113904.14850@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>
>This is the type of congratulations we have come to expect from you Sandy.
>
>I think Serebel's post hit the nail on the head.
>
>All the best Todd. If you have read this NG for longer than a few days
>you'll know that you can expect these sorts of remarks from Sandy.
>
>Wal
>

Ragnar

2005-01-27, 8:52 am

That;s more than 250 UNTOUCHED after.. that flap that is another
150microns or so thick is replaced and eventually regains 90% of it's
integrity.

Incidentally.. in the Radial Keratotomy procedure, the slits are made
to a depth of 95% to 98% of the cornea.. which leaves only 10 microns
untouched. If one's eye isn't falling out of their head with just
10 microns untouched.. certainly 250+ microns isn't going to be a
problem.

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:46:35 +0000 (UTC), Todd Rich <torin@panix.com>
wrote:

>Sandy - LASIKdisaster.com - LASIKmemorial.com <sandy@savvysneaks.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>Corneal thickness was 515 microns before surgery. Enough room at my
>perscription to leave more than 250 after.
>
>
>I was aware of this posibility before having surgery. It was factor into
>my decision to have it done.
>
>
>I do jewelry work as a hobby, and I never took off my glasses to look at
>something closely. Something about not taking off safety glasses. I've
>known about presbyopia since my early twenties, and that Lasik will have
>no effect on it's progression. For me personally, I would rather do
>without glasses for 80% of the time rather than 20%.
>
>
>Not for me. But then I did my research into BEFORE I had it done.
>
> Todd

Steve

2005-01-27, 8:52 am

On 22 Jan 2005 19:32:11 -0800, "Sandy - LASIKdisaster.com -
LASIKmemorial.com" <sandy@savvysneaks.com> wrote:

>Hi Todd. I'm happy that you're happy so far. I hope that the corneal
>strength remaining after the flap was cut is enough to get you through
>a lifetime of intraocular pressure. I hope nothing ever hits you in
>the eye and causes a flap dislocation. I hope that when you become
>presbyopic and realize that you can't just take your glasses off to
>read or work on something small, you don't regret having your near
>vision burned away. What do you expect me to say, Wal? I don't
>believe that lasik is good for the eyes, so how can I congratulate
>someone on having it done????
>LASIK: The more you know, the worse it looks.

I hope that one day you can remove the grudge that you have been
carrying for so long, stop throwing a pity party for yourself and quit
doing your best to try and make others as miserable as you are. I
cannot imagine going through life with the attitude that you have.

Sandy - LASIKdisaster.com - LASIKmemorial.com

2005-01-27, 8:52 am

Steve wrote:
> On 22 Jan 2005 19:32:11 -0800, "Sandy - LASIKdisaster.com -
> LASIKmemorial.com" <sandy@savvysneaks.com> wrote:
>
>
corneal[vbcol=seagreen]
through[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> I hope that one day you can remove the grudge that you have been
> carrying for so long, stop throwing a pity party for yourself and
quit
> doing your best to try and make others as miserable as you are. I
> cannot imagine going through life with the attitude that you have.

Don't presume that I am miserable, because I am not. Life is good, God
is good, and I am thankful for what I have.

Glenn - USAEyes.org

2005-01-27, 8:52 am

In the realm of misery, Keller is a carrier.

Glenn - USAEyes.org

2005-01-27, 8:52 am

Sorry I'm late in responding, but congratulations on a successful
outcome thus far. You will still need to go through the healing
period, but you have an excellent start. Do keep us informed.

Glenn Hagele
Executive Director
Council for Refractive Surgery Quality Assurance

Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org

http://www.USAEyes.org
http://www.ComplicatedEyes.org

I am not a doctor.

Todd Rich

2005-01-27, 8:52 am

Glenn - USAEyes.org <glenn.hageleSTOPSPAM@usaeyes.org> wrote:
> Sorry I'm late in responding, but congratulations on a successful
> outcome thus far. You will still need to go through the healing
> period, but you have an excellent start. Do keep us informed.

Oh definately. I've got a minor visual artifact in the lower left hand
side of my field of vision. It is in the range of normal I was told to
expect while healing, though I will be discussing it in my follow up
visit. Also I'm making sure to follow all the post-op instructions. 2
days left of the antibiotic and anti-inflamitory drops. 5 more days of
taping the eyeshield to my face when sleeping.
Todd

Steve

2005-01-27, 8:52 am

On 24 Jan 2005 00:43:55 -0800, "Sandy - LASIKdisaster.com -
LASIKmemorial.com" <sandy@savvysneaks.com> wrote:

>Don't presume that I am miserable, because I am not. Life is good, God
>is good, and I am thankful for what I have.

Please forgive me, Sandy. I don't know how I could have made such a
presumption--after all, you're such a ray of sunshine around here!

Ragnar

2005-01-27, 8:52 am

What is this "thus far" nonsense?
The healing process is expected to, and almost always is, a
progressive improvement. You seem to be suggesting that there is some
problem on the horizon.

Maybe what you need to do is stick to referring surgeons and keep your
own opinions to yourself.

Honestly, I don't know why people criticize you for being pro-lasik.
It's obvious that you don't like LASIK. You haven't had LASIK
yourself, nor any other type of refractive surgery. It's kind of like
a vegetarian running a steakhouse.

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 09:28:26 GMT, Glenn - USAEyes.org
<glenn.hageleSTOPSPAM@USAEyes.org> wrote:

>Sorry I'm late in responding, but congratulations on a successful
>outcome thus far. You will still need to go through the healing
>period, but you have an excellent start. Do keep us informed.
>
>Glenn Hagele
>Executive Director
>Council for Refractive Surgery Quality Assurance
>
>Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org
>
>http://www.USAEyes.org
>http://www.ComplicatedEyes.org
>
>I am not a doctor.

serebel

2005-01-27, 8:52 am

Sandy - LASIKdisaster.com - LASIKmemorial.com wrote:

>
> Don't presume that I am miserable, because I am not. Life is good,
God
> is good, and I am thankful for what I have.

Sandy,

You ARE miserable. One does not have to assume this, your posts prove
this beyond any doubt.

SErebel