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Bilateral serous macular detachment following laser in situ keratomileusis
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| rebeccaNO_SPAM@lasermyeye.org 2005-01-14, 7:14 pm |
| Doing LASIK on someone who is +7 hyperopic is, IMHO, indefensible under
any circumstances. What on earth pleasure any surgeon could get out of
pushing the envelope in this manner - in an elective surgery - beats
the heck out of me.
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| serebel 2005-01-14, 10:12 pm |
| Note that this was a case of PREXISTING macular pathology. It does not
conclude that lasik was the cause. Brent is just spinning again.
SErebel
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| Barnard 2005-01-15, 2:13 am |
| Responding to SErebel, RIP (Ragnar's Inbred Protege)
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Ah, yes, that would be a very reassuring addition to the informed
consent discussion, would it not?
"I'm happy to say that LASIK is always improving! Always! For
instance, just two years ago I did surgery on a thousand patients that
I wouldn't even consider today! How's THAT for progress! Now,
granted, we might not know if your particular condition is a
contraindication, but after your surgery, or at least after fifty or a
hundred or a thousand similar surgeries, we'll have a much better idea
of what kind of patients to avoid. Sign here."
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| Simpledog 2005-01-18, 2:09 am |
| Hyperopic lasik is 4 to 5 years behind those of our nearsighted
counterparts.
So, when you go in with your +4 eyes, go back about 4 years for nearsighted
patients, and see their results.
<rebeccaNO_SPAM@lasermyeye.org> wrote in message
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> Doing LASIK on someone who is +7 hyperopic is, IMHO, indefensible under
> any circumstances. What on earth pleasure any surgeon could get out of
> pushing the envelope in this manner - in an elective surgery - beats
> the heck out of me.
>
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| Glenn - USAEyes.org 2005-01-18, 2:09 am |
| Another way to look at it is a ratio of three or four to one. If you
are +3, the probability of getting a good outcome is about the same as
a -12. Not good. A +4 is about the same as a -16. Not good at all.
Glenn Hagele
Executive Director
Council for Refractive Surgery Quality Assurance
Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org
http://www.USAEyes.org
http://www.ComplicatedEyes.org
I am not a doctor.
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| Simpledog 2005-01-20, 7:07 am |
| Glenn, I'm hearing anecdotal reports that overseas, with the newer
technologies (whichever you prefer), the Europeans are doing a little better
than US counterparts with hyperopia. Is this your understanding as well?
"Glenn - USAEyes.org" <glenn.hageleSTOPSPAM@USAEyes.org> wrote in message
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> Another way to look at it is a ratio of three or four to one. If you
> are +3, the probability of getting a good outcome is about the same as
> a -12. Not good. A +4 is about the same as a -16. Not good at all.
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> Glenn Hagele
> Executive Director
> Council for Refractive Surgery Quality Assurance
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> Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org
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> http://www.USAEyes.org
> http://www.ComplicatedEyes.org
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> I am not a doctor.
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| Glenn - USAEyes.org 2005-01-27, 8:51 am |
| Yes, the development of hyperopic correction in western Europe is
about 2-3 years ahead of what is available in the US.
I would not hazard a guess as to what is available in Baghdad. 8^)
Glenn Hagele
Executive Director
Council for Refractive Surgery Quality Assurance
Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org
http://www.USAEyes.org
http://www.ComplicatedEyes.org
I am not a doctor.
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| Simpledog 2005-01-27, 8:52 am |
| Well, I don't go now till 20 March.
Kuwait has facilities.
"Glenn - USAEyes.org" <glenn.hageleSTOPSPAM@USAEyes.org> wrote in message
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> Yes, the development of hyperopic correction in western Europe is
> about 2-3 years ahead of what is available in the US.
>
> I would not hazard a guess as to what is available in Baghdad. 8^)
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> Glenn Hagele
> Executive Director
> Council for Refractive Surgery Quality Assurance
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> Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org
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> http://www.USAEyes.org
> http://www.ComplicatedEyes.org
>
> I am not a doctor.
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