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| Brent Hanson - LASIKFRAUD.COM 2004-12-23, 10:08 pm |
| http://finance.messages.yahoo.com/b...4339425&mid=725
Alcon got busted on Fox News Chicago
by: lasikreport (M/Illinois) 12/22/04 12:08 am
Msg: 725 of 736
Tonight Fox News broadcast a not-so-secure tape recorded conversations
between doctors who claimed that LadarVision lasers were defective. Among
the doctors whose voices appeard on the audio tape was Dr. Joseph Dello
Russo.
Dr. Joseph Dello Russo is "certified" by Glenn Hagele of CRSQA, a front
group for the lasik industry, that poses as a patient advocacy group. As you
remember, Hagele issued a press within hours of my posting an article on the
alt.lasik-eyes newsgroup critical of Alcon. In his press release, Hagele
claimed to have performed a comprehensive study that found no problems with
Alcon lasers.
Fox also obtained and displayed excerpts from documents obtained in
deposition with regard to a lawsuit filed against Alcon by surgeons.
One of the documents appeared to be a spreadsheet containing a listing of
retreatment rates for patients, broken down by doctor. The reporter asked
his own surgeon about retreatment rates, but the retreatment rates quoted by
the doctor didn't appear to jive with the numbers that appeared in Alcon's
spreadsheet. The numbers in the spreadsheet appeared to be quite a bit
higher.
I doubt that too many people in Chicago are going to be running to their
surgeon and asking for lasik.
The story will likely get re-broadcast throughout the entire Fox network.
"Glenn - USAEyes.org" <glenn.hageleSTOPSPAM@USAEyes.org> wrote in message
news:vgtms09t08nquuases15680k51i9pot9rb@4ax.com...
Criticism and concern about the legitimacy of the National Institute
for Clinical Excellence (NICE) interventional procedure guidance
report of LASIK continues to build.
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Ocular Surgery News issued a brief item and promised a full article in
the January edition.
http://www.osnsupersite.com/default.asp?ID=9559
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The author of one of the studies cited by NICE says he is "appalled"
by the use of decade old data to evaluate LASIK today.
http://media.prnewswire.com/en/jsp/...40721&access=EH
Duplicated with permission at our website at:
http://www.usaeyes.org/articles/UK_...flawed_says.htm
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Our own organization has raised several concerns about the report:
http://www.usaeyes.org/articles/british_lasik.htm
Glenn Hagele
Executive Director
Council for Refractive Surgery Quality Assurance
Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org
http://www.USAEyes.org
http://www.ComplicatedEyes.org
I am not a doctor.
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| Pinkfirefly 2004-12-26, 11:08 am |
| You keep linking this personal post in a yahoo messageboard as some sort
of "proof". Unless you have an acutal news source to link the alleged
story with, no one is going to take your post seriously.
Pink
Brent Hanson - LASIKFRAUD.COM wrote:
> http://finance.messages.yahoo.com/b...4339425&mid=725
>
> Alcon got busted on Fox News Chicago
> by: lasikreport (M/Illinois) 12/22/04 12:08 am
> Msg: 725 of 736
>
> Tonight Fox News broadcast a not-so-secure tape recorded conversations
> between doctors who claimed that LadarVision lasers were defective. Among
> the doctors whose voices appeard on the audio tape was Dr. Joseph Dello
> Russo.
>
> Dr. Joseph Dello Russo is "certified" by Glenn Hagele of CRSQA, a front
> group for the lasik industry, that poses as a patient advocacy group. As you
> remember, Hagele issued a press within hours of my posting an article on the
> alt.lasik-eyes newsgroup critical of Alcon. In his press release, Hagele
> claimed to have performed a comprehensive study that found no problems with
> Alcon lasers.
>
> Fox also obtained and displayed excerpts from documents obtained in
> deposition with regard to a lawsuit filed against Alcon by surgeons.
>
> One of the documents appeared to be a spreadsheet containing a listing of
> retreatment rates for patients, broken down by doctor. The reporter asked
> his own surgeon about retreatment rates, but the retreatment rates quoted by
> the doctor didn't appear to jive with the numbers that appeared in Alcon's
> spreadsheet. The numbers in the spreadsheet appeared to be quite a bit
> higher.
>
> I doubt that too many people in Chicago are going to be running to their
> surgeon and asking for lasik.
>
> The story will likely get re-broadcast throughout the entire Fox network.
>
> "Glenn - USAEyes.org" <glenn.hageleSTOPSPAM@USAEyes.org> wrote in message
> news:vgtms09t08nquuases15680k51i9pot9rb@4ax.com...
> Criticism and concern about the legitimacy of the National Institute
> for Clinical Excellence (NICE) interventional procedure guidance
> report of LASIK continues to build.
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Ocular Surgery News issued a brief item and promised a full article in
> the January edition.
> http://www.osnsupersite.com/default.asp?ID=9559
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~
> The author of one of the studies cited by NICE says he is "appalled"
> by the use of decade old data to evaluate LASIK today.
>
> http://media.prnewswire.com/en/jsp/...40721&access=EH
>
> Duplicated with permission at our website at:
>
> http://www.usaeyes.org/articles/UK_...flawed_says.htm
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Our own organization has raised several concerns about the report:
>
> http://www.usaeyes.org/articles/british_lasik.htm
>
>
>
> Glenn Hagele
> Executive Director
> Council for Refractive Surgery Quality Assurance
>
> Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org
>
> http://www.USAEyes.org
> http://www.ComplicatedEyes.org
>
> I am not a doctor.
>
>
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| Glenn - USAEyes.org 2004-12-26, 7:10 pm |
| Quite right, Pink.
I killfiled Brent Hanson (and all his many, varied, and constantly
emerging alias) long ago, so I didn't see this post until you replied.
Much of his bovine fertilizer is just that.
CRSQA is not a front group for anybody, we are a patient advocacy -
just look at our website - we do certify surgeons who we evaluate
based upon patient outcomes, our press releases are in response to
real events, not imagined accusations of someone who appears to me to
be quite unstable when it comes to refractive surgery issues, and
there have been many, many patient studies evaluating outcomes from
the Alcon LADARVision 4000 in both conventional and wavefront-guded
ablation modes that do not indicate a systemic flaw in the laser.
Some studies are government reviewed, some peer-reviewed, some
independently published.
I have not seen the Chicago Fox News affiliate's news story on LASIK,
but I understand that there was nothing new revealed as they are
regurgitating counterclaim accusations made in a couple of years-old
lawsuits filed by Alcon when royalties were not paid, and that there
was no reference to our the CRSQA. Furthermore, if they used Brent
Hanson as a source, they obviously do not care where their information
comes from, nor do they check the reliability of their sources very
well.
If the whole thing is only about retreatment rates, there is a rather
strong argument that this is a tempest in a teapot. While nobody
wants the added exposure to risk that comes with two surgeries rather
than one, enhancement surgery is statistically more successful than
initial surgeries in terms of achieving the desired outcome. Patients
require enhancement surgery for a number of reasons (see
http://www.usaeyes.org/faq/subjects/enhancement.htm) and enhancement
rates are often a very poor indicator of a problem (see
http://www.usaeyes.org/faq/subjects...ement_rates.htm).
Patients need to be mindful that LASIK and all refractive surgery is
often more of a six month process than a 20-Minute Miracle. That
process may included additional treatment of many types. If someone
will only consider LASIK a "success" if they get perfect vision on day
one without any additional treatment needed at all, then that person
has unreasonable expectations and should not have refractive surgery.
Of course doctors may be required to pay more royalties to the laser
company if they find enhancements are more necessary, but our
organization really does not care about a surgeon's profit margin. We
are concerned with the patient's ultimate outcome.
Glenn Hagele
Executive Director
Council for Refractive Surgery Quality Assurance
Email to glenn dot hagele at usaeyes dot org
http://www.USAEyes.org
http://www.ComplicatedEyes.org
I am not a doctor.
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