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2004-10-13, 7:55 am

This just came up on CNN and has been alluded to in this newsgroup
recently, so I figured I'd share it.

Supposedly 22 independent studies were done on groups of gastric
bypass patients and 76% of them that had diabetes were no longer
diabetic after the bypass. 86% of the bypass patients had a
significant drop in cholesterol levels. Surprisingly, only 61% of the
bypass patients had a significant weight loss.

Anyway, it seems there are other reasons other than morbid obesity to
have gastric bypass. If someone is on drugs to lower their
cholesterol and/or takes insulin, they should ask their doctor about a
gastric bypass.

My grandfather had a radical version of that. He had his entire
stomach removed due to bleeding. He lived for 25 years before dying
at 78 of a heart problem. The lack of a stomach didn't seem to affect
him in any way other than he had to eat 6 small meals a day, get
monthly b-12 shots, and his flatuence was incredibly pungent.

ycdbsoya

2004-10-14, 7:13 pm

RM <rm@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<5m2qm0ha3erpkpr4dnb2bih9vdr8n06pod@4ax.com>...
> This just came up on CNN and has been alluded to in this newsgroup
> recently, so I figured I'd share it.
>
> Supposedly 22 independent studies were done on groups of gastric
> bypass patients and 76% of them that had diabetes were no longer
> diabetic after the bypass. 86% of the bypass patients had a
> significant drop in cholesterol levels. Surprisingly, only 61% of the
> bypass patients had a significant weight loss.
>
> Anyway, it seems there are other reasons other than morbid obesity to
> have gastric bypass. If someone is on drugs to lower their
> cholesterol and/or takes insulin, they should ask their doctor about a
> gastric bypass.
>
> My grandfather had a radical version of that. He had his entire
> stomach removed due to bleeding. He lived for 25 years before dying
> at 78 of a heart problem. The lack of a stomach didn't seem to affect
> him in any way other than he had to eat 6 small meals a day, get
> monthly b-12 shots, and his flatuence was incredibly pungent.

It seems there are a lot of side benefits to GBS. It is just a very
invasive and comparatively risky procedure. The benefits reflected in
these studies (reduction in diabetes, cholesterol,etc) can also be
attained through appropriate diet, exercise and lifestyle.

The vast, vast majority of obesity and morbid obesity in this country
is caused by poor diet, lack of exercise and inappropriate lifestyle
choices. 95-98% of obesity can be solved by changing them. GBS surgery
is, and should always be seen, as the means of last resort. My fear is
that if they "commoditize" GBS as they have RS and other elective
procedures, we will see more unnecessary procedures and less personal
responsibility for one's obesity-producing behaviors. Greater
availability of GBS will keep people from changing their eating and
exercise behaviors, which I believe is the real key to weight loss and
control. There will always be a segment of the population for which
GBS is an appropriate choice, however, it is a very small percentage
of the obese population.

2004-10-14, 7:13 pm

I'll take your word for it. I only mentioned it because by strange
coincidence there was a story on CNN about the benefits while I was
typing away on another message.
I'm not really sure how the topic of Gastric Bypass ever started in
this group. I think I started the thread with the subject line
identifying the subject as being off-topic. I'm done talking about
gastric bypass.

On 14 Oct 2004 09:39:31 -0700, the_boydstons@hotmail.com (ycdbsoya)
wrote:

>RM <rm@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<5m2qm0ha3erpkpr4dnb2bih9vdr8n06pod@4ax.com>...
>
>It seems there are a lot of side benefits to GBS. It is just a very
>invasive and comparatively risky procedure. The benefits reflected in
>these studies (reduction in diabetes, cholesterol,etc) can also be
>attained through appropriate diet, exercise and lifestyle.
>
>The vast, vast majority of obesity and morbid obesity in this country
>is caused by poor diet, lack of exercise and inappropriate lifestyle
>choices. 95-98% of obesity can be solved by changing them. GBS surgery
>is, and should always be seen, as the means of last resort. My fear is
>that if they "commoditize" GBS as they have RS and other elective
>procedures, we will see more unnecessary procedures and less personal
>responsibility for one's obesity-producing behaviors. Greater
>availability of GBS will keep people from changing their eating and
>exercise behaviors, which I believe is the real key to weight loss and
>control. There will always be a segment of the population for which
>GBS is an appropriate choice, however, it is a very small percentage
>of the obese population.