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Parasthesia in Neck
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| I had it to an extreme when i got sick in '97. I tried topical capsaicin
which just about sent me to the hospital. I didn't know it is not
recommended for lupies. :P I didn't know I was developing very sensitive
skin.
i've tried heat, cool, rest, neck exercises... and doctors just shrugged
when i ask them what to do about the ant colonly living in my neck and
shoulders. Well, it had gone away for some time and now it's back. i hate
to say it but i do seem to be slipping into a flare - probably brought on
mostly by a medicine error I made this past couple of weeks (stopped taking
a med because I was too busy/lazy/cheap to re-up it and probably because I
thought I was invincible since I'd survived all that CARP with Rita, the
move, etc.)
But mostly I think it's this PC. We've crammed a full-size PC onto a chef's
desk. That is, a tiny desk in the kitchen that shouldn't have more than a
laptop and a coffee mug on it. The mouse is the wrong height and it's just
an ergomic mess.
anyway... anyone out there dealt with this and found ways to alleviate
besides not getting on the bad PC? 
I am also going to be hunched over a sewing machine for a few days which
won't help.
oh... shoot. i guess i'm just whinin'.
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| hongyu 2005-11-27, 12:59 am |
| Sir
May I ask your situation? May I offer some herb for your remedy?
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| hongyu wrote:
> May I ask your situation? May I offer some herb for your remedy?
No peddling on this (or any non-commercial) newsgroup
J
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| KCat wrote:
> i've tried heat, cool, rest, neck exercises... and doctors just shrugged
> when i ask them what to do about the ant colonly living in my neck and
> shoulders. Well, it had gone away for some time and now it's back. i hate
> to say it but i do seem to be slipping into a flare - probably brought on
> mostly by a medicine error I made this past couple of weeks (stopped taking
> a med because I was too busy/lazy/cheap to re-up it and probably because I
> thought I was invincible since I'd survived all that CARP with Rita, the
> move, etc.)
>
> But mostly I think it's this PC. We've crammed a full-size PC onto a chef's
> desk. That is, a tiny desk in the kitchen that shouldn't have more than a
> laptop and a coffee mug on it. The mouse is the wrong height and it's just
> an ergomic mess.
>
> anyway... anyone out there dealt with this and found ways to alleviate
> besides not getting on the bad PC?
>
> I am also going to be hunched over a sewing machine for a few days which
> won't help.
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> oh... shoot. i guess i'm just whinin'.
hi KC, I'm sorry about your troubles.
I think you answered your own question.
I don't have a clue why you'd want a PC in the kitchen anyway and I think my
computer guru would say a kitchen isn't a healthy place for a PC (humidity, dust
(flour), grease, smoke, steam).
I don't know about laptops and kitchens because I don't know if they've got air
vents and fans and heat syncs
Hope you feel better soon.
Hugs from me
J
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| uh.. firstly, I'm not "sir". Secondly, this is a lupus support group and I
did mention that this is about Parasthesia so that would be the "situation".
Finally, no thank you. You may, of course, offer suggestions based on your
knowledge. But anything other than topicals or physical manipulation that i
would actually try will have to be approved by my doctor and supplied by
someone that comes recommended to me by same.
ant extract eh? I already feel like I've got fire ants on my neck. It's
very unpleasant.
"hongyu" <biotin@mail.hz.zj.cn> wrote in message
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> Sir
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> May I ask your situation? May I offer some herb for your remedy?
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| "J" <sniffles@anon.inv> wrote in message
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> hi KC, I'm sorry about your troubles.
> I think you answered your own question.
> I don't have a clue why you'd want a PC in the kitchen anyway and I think
my
> computer guru would say a kitchen isn't a healthy place for a PC
(humidity, dust
> (flour), grease, smoke, steam).
> I don't know about laptops and kitchens because I don't know if they've
got air
> vents and fans and heat syncs
> Hope you feel better soon.
> Hugs from me
> J
well, we needed it to be in an area were both of us had easy access (lest
one or the other of us need a nap) and we didn't want it in a back room but
close to our office (which is off the kitchen). This is a huge kitchen and
I don't exactly "cook" much so I think it's safe for the most part. Not
sure how the laptops work in that regard either though it should be
something we consider before we go that route. oh, it was also the best
location for the cable modem line.
i dunno - once you have Dalmatian fur floating around the house on a regular
basis, hard to get too worked up about the once week meal i might throw
together. Daughter has her laptop on her coffee table in her one-bedroom
apt that includes two cats. no problems....so far...
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| Timothy Luders 2005-11-28, 1:00 am |
| On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 23:57:52 GMT, KCat wrote:
> "J" <sniffles@anon.inv> wrote in message
> news:4389892D.20B4504A@execulink.com...
> my
> (humidity, dust
> got air
[vbcol=seagreen]
> well, we needed it to be in an area were both of us had easy access (lest
> one or the other of us need a nap) and we didn't want it in a back room but
> close to our office (which is off the kitchen). This is a huge kitchen and
> I don't exactly "cook" much so I think it's safe for the most part. Not
> sure how the laptops work in that regard either though it should be
> something we consider before we go that route. oh, it was also the best
> location for the cable modem line.
> i dunno - once you have Dalmatian fur floating around the house on a regular
> basis, hard to get too worked up about the once week meal i might throw
> together. Daughter has her laptop on her coffee table in her one-bedroom
> apt that includes two cats. no problems....so far...
They do need to be cleaned occasionally. Spent 45 minutes with my son
cleaning his today. I had noticed that the cooling fan was running at high
speed when the laptop was mostly at idle. The cooling fins were well
blocked with dust.
Timothy
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> They do need to be cleaned occasionally. Spent 45 minutes with my son
> cleaning his today. I had noticed that the cooling fan was running at high
> speed when the laptop was mostly at idle. The cooling fins were well
> blocked with dust.
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> Timothy
is it fairly easy to get to? My ancient laptop that hasn't even been turned
on in 2 years or more cost me $80 just to open it and put in a CMOS battery.
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| In article <WuFif.24516$dO2.22540@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>, KCat
<kcattx@sbcglobal.net> wrote
>is it fairly easy to get to?
Probably not - you're likely to need either special keys (eg with
star-shaped ends) or three hands.
Ask an engineer
--
Andy Taylor [Chair, N E Lupus Group]
See http://www.northeastlupus.org.uk for more!
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| Timothy Luders 2005-11-29, 1:01 am |
| On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 15:37:26 GMT, KCat wrote:
> is it fairly easy to get to? My ancient laptop that hasn't even been turned
> on in 2 years or more cost me $80 just to open it and put in a CMOS battery.
That depends. <G> The one I did required removal of about 12 very small
phillips head screws. Don't drop them in the case! Used an old basting
brush to get the dust off of the cooling fins. If you have the tools to
open the case near the fans you could go that far to see if going further
is something you'd want to tackle. The CMOS battery is likely tougher to
get to tan the cooling area.
Remember, I'm an HVAC mechanic so I'm used to opening things up, figuring
out what is needed and then re-assembling. Oh dear, Where did this part
come from. LOL You won't know without trying, Just be cautious.
Now if I were to do it for you professionally, it would cost you more than
that 80 smackers. You know, 1 hour minimum, inflation, and all.
Timothy
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| Timothy Luders 2005-11-29, 1:01 am |
| On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 16:24:02 +0000, Andy wrote:
> In article <WuFif.24516$dO2.22540@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>, KCat
> <kcattx@sbcglobal.net> wrote
[vbcol=seagreen]
> Probably not - you're likely to need either special keys (eg with
> star-shaped ends) or three hands.
> Ask an engineer
An engineer will tell you that it is much more complicated than it really
is. :P)
--
Timothy
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| KCat wrote:
> well, we needed it to be in an area were both of us had easy access (lest
> one or the other of us need a nap) and we didn't want it in a back room but
> close to our office (which is off the kitchen). This is a huge kitchen and
> I don't exactly "cook" much so I think it's safe for the most part. Not
> sure how the laptops work in that regard either though it should be
> something we consider before we go that route. oh, it was also the best
> location for the cable modem line.
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> i dunno - once you have Dalmatian fur floating around the house on a regular
> basis, hard to get too worked up about the once week meal i might throw
> together. Daughter has her laptop on her coffee table in her one-bedroom
> apt that includes two cats. no problems....so far...
Thanks for explaining KC.
What's parasthesia? I thought that means paralyzed or locked up? Or numb? Or
loss of sensation?
My neck and shoulder area sure feels tight and uncomfy.
Like I'm carrying the world on my shoulders. (stress, worry, grumpy, maybe even
anger, some jerk backed into my car and made a hole in the hood and gouged other
areas of the hood -and took off without leaving his name and address - grocery
parking lot, I assume) and I only discovered it once home. I'm so angry at thw
world for jerks like that one.  ((
I thought, well "gee, maybe i caught it from a newsgroup post" (yours), but
maybe you mean someting different than me? I tried massage, no difference. I
tred heat last night, no difference.
It seems to hit worse in the evenings and it's hard to find a comfortable
sleeping position.
Stretching seems to help a bit, but I think I need to out and get drunk (just
kidding) and party a bit or something...
hugs
J
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| Sherry 2005-11-29, 12:58 pm |
| Oh J, I'm so sorry that some jerk picked on your car and then split! I
don't know what is the matter with the world...(well I have a few ideas).
You truly don't need any added problems and stress in your life.
Hope your neck and shoulder give you some relief soon.
Hugs,
sherry
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| "J" <sniffles@anon.inv> wrote in message
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> KCat wrote:
> What's parasthesia? I thought that means paralyzed or locked up? Or numb?
Or
> loss of sensation?
it is numbness and tingling in a nerve. it doesn't say anything about the
cause though it's common in neurological and neuromuscular disorders like
MS.
> My neck and shoulder area sure feels tight and uncomfy.
> Like I'm carrying the world on my shoulders. (stress, worry, grumpy, maybe
even
> anger, some jerk backed into my car and made a hole in the hood and gouged
other
> areas of the hood -and took off without leaving his name and address -
grocery
> parking lot, I assume) and I only discovered it once home. I'm so angry at
thw
> world for jerks like that one. ((
well, that would sure put stress and discomfort on me! along with anger and
wishing I was on CSI. track down that paint color and find out all the
people in your area that own a car with that paint on it. :P
> Stretching seems to help a bit, but I think I need to out and get drunk
(just
> kidding) and party a bit or something...
> hugs
> J
time is probably the best answer. i have hurt my neck and upper back a
couple of times recently what with moving, painting, etc. it was just
muscle strain but it sure hurt and I couldn't turn my head to the sides at
all. how shower on the muscles and time plus a little aspirin was all i
did.
doesn't sound like you were *in* the car so can't be that sort of injury.
my mum has arthritis in her neck and has for years. not sure what she's
done about it other than the occasional heat application.
hope it feels better soon and i'm sorry you had to deal with such an event.
people constantly amaze me with their callousness and selfishness.
best,
kcat
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| Sherry wrote:
> Oh J, I'm so sorry that some jerk picked on your car and then split! I
> don't know what is the matter with the world...(well I have a few ideas).
> You truly don't need any added problems and stress in your life.
>
> Hope your neck and shoulder give you some relief soon.
Thanks Sherry,
Your words are a comfort to me.
Hugs
j
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| KCat wrote:
> "J" <sniffles@anon.inv> wrote in message
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> Or loss of sensation?
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> it is numbness and tingling in a nerve. it doesn't say anything about the
> cause though it's common in neurological and neuromuscular disorders like
> MS.
Yes, I see "numb legs" mentioned on the MS newsgroup.
I'm not sure we've had a lot of mention of same on this newsgroup.
Although it's listed here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paresthesia
Another cause of paresthesia, however, may be direct damage to the nerves
themselves, or neuropathy, which can stem from injury or infection, or which may
be indicative of a current neurological disorder. Chronic paresthesia can
sometimes be symptomatic of serious conditions, such as a transient ischemic
attack, a brain tumor, motor neurone disease, or autoimmune disorders like
multiple sclerosis or lupus erythematosus. A diagnostic evaluation by a doctor
is necessary to rule these out.
I have it in my lower arms and hands, but I know the reason, leaning on my elbow
and my cubital (funny bone ) nerves are geeting compressed. The end result (for
reasons that I don't fully understand) is weakness of the hand and fingers. I'm
waiting on a quote for some rigid elbow splints.
The concern with you, if there's something similar, is that permanent damage can
occur to the nerve.
In other words, the numbness and tingling can become permanent. Numbness instead
of pain isn't so bad, but if there's eventual weakness, we don't want your head
falling off :p
> some jerk backed into my car and made a hole in the hood and gouged
> other areas of the hood -and took off without leaving his name and address -
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> well, that would sure put stress and discomfort on me! along with anger and
> wishing I was on CSI. track down that paint color and find out all the
> people in your area that own a car with that paint on it. :P
I did think of that. There seemed to be a small smear down one side, but it
washed off, so it must have been dirt.
> time is probably the best answer. i have hurt my neck and upper back a
> couple of times recently what with moving, painting, etc. it was just
> muscle strain but it sure hurt and I couldn't turn my head to the sides at
> all. how shower on the muscles and time plus a little aspirin was all i
> did.
Shower on the muscles and aspirin? Is it getting better?
I guess I'd want someone knowlegeable about nerves to duplicate it and see where
it's coming from.
(by pressing in various places)
That might tell you which position you shouldn't be doing (even in sleep).
> doesn't sound like you were *in* the car so can't be that sort of injury.
> my mum has arthritis in her neck and has for years. not sure what she's
> done about it other than the occasional heat application.
oh, no, I didn't mean to imply that I was in the car at the time.
It just started last week. Must be tension, a little better this week, but my
left ear hurts.
That's TMJ. I know what's causing what, just can't seem to get rid of anything.
And yes, I've got arthritis throughout my body, but it must have been muscular
in my neck and shoulders not the arthritis, else the heat would have helped.
> hope it feels better soon and i'm sorry you had to deal with such an event.
Thanks KC
> people constantly amaze me with their callousness and selfishness.
Yes, the world's spinning too fast. Drivers are too aggressive. Everyone's in a
hurry.
I see the results in awful crashes on the news. I sure wish people would slow
down a little bit.
best,
J
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| > The concern with you, if there's something similar, is that permanent
damage can
> occur to the nerve.
> In other words, the numbness and tingling can become permanent. Numbness
instead
> of pain isn't so bad, but if there's eventual weakness, we don't want your
head
> falling off :p
oh.. i dunno. i don't use it that much these days.
> I did think of that. There seemed to be a small smear down one side, but
it
> washed off, so it must have been dirt.
bummer.
> Shower on the muscles and aspirin? Is it getting better?
nah. i mean, it isn't constant like it was a few years ago. i only notice
it in certain postures. At the PC and sometimes while sitting up in bed or
when i'm hunched over the sewing machine. The aspirin was taken to with the
thought that maybe the muscles are inflamed and putting pressure on the
nerve. don't think so though. the hot shower just helps probably because
it overwhelms the area with substance P (we're talking *HOT* shower)
> I guess I'd want someone knowlegeable about nerves to duplicate it and see
where
> it's coming from.
> (by pressing in various places)
> That might tell you which position you shouldn't be doing (even in sleep).
i guess I'll break down and tell the doc next time I see her. I think the
first time I told her was back when i first saw her and we didn't have a
clear picture of what was wrong with me. That was back when she called it
"aches & pains disease."
> oh, no, I didn't mean to imply that I was in the car at the time.
> It just started last week. Must be tension, a little better this week, but
my
> left ear hurts.
> That's TMJ. I know what's causing what, just can't seem to get rid of
anything.
> And yes, I've got arthritis throughout my body, but it must have been
muscular
> in my neck and shoulders not the arthritis, else the heat would have
helped.
oh i had fun with that one for a couple of years. Saw an oral surgeon a
little over a year ago for another matter and told him about how my jaw got
locked up and i couldn't open it fully for months on end. made eating an
interesting challenge. He said if i'd come in to see him he'd have popped
it right back into place and during all that time apparently the darn thing
was actually dislocated! The reason it eventually fixed itself was simply
that the muscles and such stretched enough to let it get back into place.
sure would have been nice if i could have fixed it sooner than that but my
doc at the time (GP) was clueless and gave me anti-inflammatories.
> I see the results in awful crashes on the news. I sure wish people would
slow
> down a little bit.
> best,
> J
i actually read some guy's comment in the JSC paper the other day that the
reason that there is more aggressive driving is because of the people
driving too slow in the passing lane and similar behavior.
amazing. i've been on those same roads. yes, there are dawdlers. But by and
large I drive about 10% over the legal speed limit in most cases and yet
traffic streams by me constantly. That's where the aggression is! If i'm
doing 65 in a 60 and everyone is passing me... then I guess I'm the
"dawdler". it's especially bad in places like Houston because there are so
many lanes, so many long stretches of freeway and highway. too many people
who think they have somewhere to be that is worth risking their lives and
others to get there. idiots.
uh.. rant mode off.
k
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| KCat wrote:
> damage can occur to the nerve.
> instead of pain isn't so bad, but if there's eventual weakness, we don't want
> your
> head falling off :p
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> oh.. i dunno. i don't use it that much these days.
heehee.
>
> nah. i mean, it isn't constant like it was a few years ago. i only notice
> it in certain postures. At the PC and sometimes while sitting up in bed or
> when i'm hunched over the sewing machine. The aspirin was taken to with the
> thought that maybe the muscles are inflamed and putting pressure on the
> nerve. don't think so though. the hot shower just helps probably because
> it overwhelms the area with substance P (we're talking *HOT* shower)
>
> where
>
> i guess I'll break down and tell the doc next time I see her.
Yay !
> I think the
> first time I told her was back when i first saw her and we didn't have a
> clear picture of what was wrong with me. That was back when she called it
> "aches & pains disease."
> re TMJ oh i had fun with that one for a couple of years. Saw an oral surgeon
> a
> little over a year ago for another matter and told him about how my jaw got
> locked up and i couldn't open it fully for months on end. made eating an
> interesting challenge. He said if i'd come in to see him he'd have popped
> it right back into place and during all that time apparently the darn thing
> was actually dislocated! The reason it eventually fixed itself was simply
> that the muscles and such stretched enough to let it get back into place.
> sure would have been nice if i could have fixed it sooner than that but my
> doc at the time (GP) was clueless and gave me anti-inflammatories.
I guess ! And when I saw that, that's what started all my GI mess a few years
ago and all the tests for nothing. Anti-inflammatories for TMJ. (it was my idea
though, I was in such pain)
Now I know how to deal with it different, although the back left of my throat is
sore again.
- heating/dryness I think.
This time I should be doing gargling warm water and salt.
Never had a dislocation and hope I never do. Souonds painful.
> i actually read some guy's comment in the JSC paper the other day that the
> reason that there is more aggressive driving is because of the people
> driving too slow in the passing lane and similar behavior.
>
> amazing. i've been on those same roads. yes, there are dawdlers. But by and
> large I drive about 10% over the legal speed limit in most cases and yet
> traffic streams by me constantly. That's where the aggression is! If i'm
> doing 65 in a 60 and everyone is passing me... then I guess I'm the
> "dawdler".
Same here.
I think speeders try that one to justify their speeding.
J
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