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| TurboTravis 2007-01-10, 5:10 pm |
| Folks, I am a trimix user. I used it tonight, and used a tiny bit more
(extra 2 units, .13 instead of .11) and after a half hour sex session I
had anywhere from a 90% erection to a 50% erection over the next 1.5
hours, so I stopped at the WalMart and bought some Sudafed. There were
several choices of Sudafed, so without knowing I guessed and picked
"Nasal Decongestant PE". The other choice was "Sinus Headache". The
diffrence is "Nasal" contains 10MG of Phenylephrine hydrochloride in
each tablet, and "Sinus" contains 5MG of "Phenylephrine HCI (which I
assume is the same as Phenylephrine hydrochloride) and also 325MG of
Acetaminophen per tablet.
I am curious which (if either) is the correct one to use, and how much.
I initally took for tablets of the one I bought (with the 10MG
Phenylephrine) and did not see much effect on the erection. I took 3
more a half hour later and it seemed to help as I quickly lost what was
left of the erection shortly after taking it.
I assume that I did no damage to myself (I had a rock hard for a hour
then a 90% to 50% for the next 1.5 hours or so).
Thanks so much!
T
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| The stronger version is what you should use.
Things that work to bring it down also are strong coffee, walking up
and down stairs, and trying to take you mind completely off what you're
trying to do - reduce the erection.
An hour isn't very long for T-mix. Just wait it out?
Jim
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| TurboTravis wrote:
> Folks, I am a trimix user. I used it tonight, and used a tiny bit more
> (extra 2 units, .13 instead of .11) and after a half hour sex session I
> had anywhere from a 90% erection to a 50% erection over the next 1.5
> hours, ...
You were probably in the clear at this point since you'd moved blood
through the cavernosa.
....so I stopped at the WalMart and bought some Sudafed. There were
> several choices of Sudafed, so without knowing I guessed and picked
> "Nasal Decongestant PE". The other choice was "Sinus Headache". The
> diffrence is "Nasal" contains 10MG of Phenylephrine hydrochloride in
> each tablet, and "Sinus" contains 5MG of "Phenylephrine HCI (which I
> assume is the same as Phenylephrine hydrochloride) and also 325MG of
> Acetaminophen per tablet.
>
> I am curious which (if either) is the correct one to use, and how much.
> I initally took for tablets of the one I bought (with the 10MG
> Phenylephrine) and did not see much effect on the erection. I took 3
> more a half hour later and it seemed to help as I quickly lost what was
> left of the erection shortly after taking it.
>
> I assume that I did no damage to myself (I had a rock hard for a hour
> then a 90% to 50% for the next 1.5 hours or so).
>
>
> Thanks so much!
> T
>
Hey Turbo,
Most likely right -- no damage.
Most likely you could have done nothing and have had the same result.
What you needed was the original, plain Sudafed without any of the other
additives-- also, avoid the extended-release or sustained-action versions.
/==========================================/
Here's the real stuff:
< http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudoephedrine > or,
<
http://www.costco.com/Pharmacy/fram...icle=Sudafed%AE
>
Typical total dose of plain Sudafed to bring down an erection is 30-60
mg. Store-branded 30mg tabs of generic pseudoephedrine-hcl are usually
1/4th the price of Sudafed 60's and you avoid having to read all the
labels of 'PE' etc. Some stores don't stock plain, brand-name Sudafed
anymore -- so, go right for the generic.
/==========================================/
I get some dry-mouth & bladder-neck tightening (difficult urination)
when I take Sudafed. If this happens, ask your Uro about using
Terbutaline (an inexpensive prescription generic). (bad stuff if you've
got diabetes, hypertension, hyperthyroid or are prone to seizures).
10mg of Terbutaline is slower than 60mg of Sudafed but without the
prostate involvement. Since it's also used as an Asthma med, it opens
the breathing passages and makes for a nice relaxed 'apres-sex' feeling
as it knocks down an erection. (Good way to end a 20-unit, "porn star"
show!)
Here's my routine (twice started in the last six months). I've based
this on my Uro's instruction sheet modified by advice from this group.
(First injection at home hit the four hour jackpot and I was looking for
all the advice I could get. (All times are from attaining a penetrable
hardon, not from the time of the injection):
1. Ejaculate at 3+00. Doc says that taking an erection down nature's
way is best. If I'm 'drained-dry' and unable to quickly pull this off,
I move to step #2 or #3. Pouring useless stimulation into the equation
will make things worse. (Ignatz Brick's observation.) Use your
judgement here. (OTOH, when your brains have been in the tip of your
dick for a couple of hours you might be judgement impaired.) <g>
2. No help, then take a cold shower & chill the base of the spine. Do
not finish with a blast of warm water! (Ignatz also contributed this
one and stressed the cold part. I've proved out the warm-water warning.)
3. If that doesn't do it, swallow 10mg of Terbutaline or 30mg of plain
Sudafed by 3+15. (I'm not great on cold showers at night so I usually
reverse steps 2 and 3).
4. If I'm still erect at 3+45, I swallow a 30mg tab of plain Sudafed,
get my wallet card and the car keys. Then, walk into the E.R. or Urgent
Care at 4+00.
I've made it to the second pill a couple of times but never have had to
leave the garage. (:-) If you can find Jerry Sturdevant's story on
Phoenix5, read it --worthwhile!
It's important to remember that if you've gone temporarily flaccid after
orgasm, the clock has been reset to zero and you've got another 4 hours.
Enjoy a great new year's eve and a happy new year!
--
....Lmac
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| Jim wrote:
> The stronger version is what you should use.
>
> Things that work to bring it down also are strong coffee, walking up
> and down stairs, and trying to take you mind completely off what you're
> trying to do - reduce the erection.
>
> An hour isn't very long for T-mix. Just wait it out?
>
> Jim
>
I hadn't read Jim's post before I shoved mine in from off-line.
Getting your mind off the problem really helps. When I pulled my first
4-hour dumbs**t, I was 'anxious' about the impending trip to Urgent
Care. Mental state was mile panic.
Turned on the TV to check the news & traffic. Home & Garden Channel
(HGTV) happened to be on with a show on the design of formal English
gardens -- the erection wilted.
My Uro suggested keeping a tape of a show like that handy. (:-)
--
....Lmac
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| TurboTravis 2007-01-10, 5:10 pm |
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Lmac wrote:
> Jim wrote:
> I hadn't read Jim's post before I shoved mine in from off-line.
>
> Getting your mind off the problem really helps. When I pulled my first
> 4-hour dumbs**t, I was 'anxious' about the impending trip to Urgent
> Care. Mental state was mile panic.
>
> Turned on the TV to check the news & traffic. Home & Garden Channel
> (HGTV) happened to be on with a show on the design of formal English
> gardens -- the erection wilted.
>
> My Uro suggested keeping a tape of a show like that handy. (:-)
>
> --
> ...Lmac
So all in all, you want to take 30-60 MG of "pseudoephedrine-hcl" to
help a erection go down?
T
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| doctor.coolpop@gmail.com 2007-01-10, 5:10 pm |
| Yes, Sudafed shoots it down - nothing else really works. Except
adrenalin, if you get really scared
However, while you guys are suffering from painful overdoses and
embarrassing yourself in front of your girlfriend with nonhuman
erections.. consider the plus side.. see adjacent post about
'enlargement'..
You almost might say; no pain, no gain..
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Jim wrote:[vbcol=seagreen]
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TurboTravis wrote:[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> So all in all, you want to take 30-60 MG of "pseudoephedrine-hcl" to
> help a erection go down?
>
> T
>
Yup; however I imagine that you could overdose to the point where a pill
won't do the job.
Jerry had such an experience that was discussed on the old Phoneix5
website but that site appears inactive.
Anyone know where that might be posted?
--
....Lmac
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| Ignatz's Bricks 2007-01-10, 5:10 pm |
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> TurboTravis wrote:
>
Usually an 18% trimix overdose won't cause any problem. Most doctors go
in 25% step increases when establishing your dosage.
Many people aim for a two hour rock hard erection when using either
trimix or caverject. If you are not fully hard and your pecker is not
getting cold, then you have blood circulation and you are not harming
yourself. I normally am quite limp, but slightly chubby, for about 12
hours after injection. A 50% is nothing to worry about. A 90%
erection, check the temperature and if your pecker is not cold, it too
is probably OK.
Lmac replies:
[vbcol=seagreen]
> Here's my routine (twice started in the last six months). I've based
> this on my Uro's instruction sheet modified by advice from this group.
> (First injection at home hit the four hour jackpot and I was looking for
> all the advice I could get. (All times are from attaining a penetrable
> hardon, not from the time of the injection):
>
> 1. Ejaculate at 3+00. Doc says that taking an erection down nature's
> way is best. If I'm 'drained-dry' and unable to quickly pull this off,
> I move to step #2 or #3. Pouring useless stimulation into the equation
> will make things worse. (Ignatz Brick's observation.) Use your
> judgement here. (OTOH, when your brains have been in the tip of your
> dick for a couple of hours you might be judgement impaired.) <g>
Actually my quote on "making things worse" was in reference to your
following up your cold shower with a warm one. That made things worse.
All in all, I mostly agree with what LMac and Jim (Avocet) said here
here on erection time.
> 2. No help, then take a cold shower & chill the base of the spine. Do
> not finish with a blast of warm water! (Ignatz also contributed this
> one and stressed the cold part. I've proved out the warm-water warning.)
Both Jim and LMac live in areas where the cold tap water is quite warm,
which is probably why that method fails to work for them. I live in
the Midwestern US where cold tap water is in the low 60s (F) in the
summer and only in the upper 50s in winter. Thirty seconds in a cold
shower usually brings me down if there is a need. (Once we had
unexpected house guests ringing the doorbell a half hour after I
injected and I was down in under a minute.)
TurboTravis, your posting IP indicates you are from the northeastern US,
where you will have cold tap water. Cold shower on my lower back is my
method of choice. I will only take medicine to bring me down as a last
resort.
A few minutes of thinking about something unpleasant (like cleaning out
a clogged sewer) also should bring it down. Just avoid stimulation
(including warm temperatures) if you cannot bring it down with ejaculation.
Exercise is also good in bring down an erection, however, make sure you
don't get hot while doing it.
I have a mild BHP problem, like many people old enough to need trimix
also do. Sudafed and many antihistamines can cause difficult urination,
even with mild BHP.
> If you can find Jerry Sturdevant's story on
> Phoenix5, read it --worthwhile!
Copy the below message ID on to your clipboard
2JPta.8101$hd6.7107@fed1read05
then go to:
http://groups.google.com/advanced_search?hl=en
and paste the number into the [lookup message] box at the bottom of the
page and then click on the button NEXT TO WHERE you pasted the number
(not the search button at the top), hit enter and you should be directed
to Jere's post.
> It's important to remember that if you've gone temporarily flaccid after
> orgasm, the clock has been reset to zero and you've got another 4 hours.
Ignatz's Bricks
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