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<Mungy@HorribleISP.gov> wrote in message
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> Maybe it doesn't apply to the more butt-muscled among us.
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I'm sure that in my career more than one person has accused me of that and
that it located atop my shoulders.
Interesting experiences you ahd with the Syrian. The thing about not wanting
you to self-inject has popped up from time to time with people I know.
A buddy of mine is diabetic and was on oral meds. He went on androgel, and
found soon after it certainly wasn't for him. Switched to T-cyp, and the doc
had him fill the script, then bring it to him, and insisted on him getting
the injections in the office.
Aggravated idiocy: Nurse goes to inject him, and says, "You don't want to be
on this stuff"
"Why?"
"It gives you testicular cancer"
"What????"
"Yeah, my husband was on it and he got testicular cancer".
Thank god for clear and concise medical research.
Anyway, I cut my buddy all this shit about paying the doc to give him his T
shots, and asked him if he had to go to insulin, would he have to go to the
office every day to get stuck?
About a year later he went on insulin, and walked out with a script for a
box of syringes for the insulin.
It don't make no sense.
Your comment on the standing injection intrigued me. I ahd that happen one
time when I got pneumonia (about 7-8 years ago) and told the doc I wasn't
going in the hospital, my case load was too big (XXXXing dedication, huh?).
Doc said I had to come to the office each day for three days for a some
kinda alien antibiotic shot (not his *exact* words).
Nurse insisted on having me stand while she gave them. All other IM's have
been, "lay down, which hip do you want?"
The not noticing quick results, from what I can tell, are likely due to any
one of one or more of several factors, but I'm prone to lean on one, i.e.:
I read a study where they pumped these male rats up with estrogen for a
period of time. They found, among other things, that the T receptors in
their little rat bodies shut down from being hit with the stronger of
estrogens, which T could not overcome.
When taken off the E, and given T, the limted receptors did not immediately
detect the T. Over a period of time (I think it was around 3 months) the T
receptors rebuilt.
Now, when I switched to T cyp, I hade just been on a year of HMG/HCG.
Although my T did not climb during that time, my E's also stayed very low.
I'm really thinking that, in my case, the damage done to the receptors from
my 1 1/2 years on androgel and pumping out more E's than a woman approaching
ovation, was alleviated in my year on the injectable gonadatropins.
In other words, low T, but even lower E's, and the receptors were primed for
the main course.
In the case of my diabetic buddy, he went from being on the gel, and showing
very obvious signs of high estrogen (sore nipples, moodiness, weight gain),
to a first inject of 200 mgs of T-cyp. I asked him if he felt great, and he
said he really didn't feel any different.
On the other hand, I knew a guy on the street that was a bodybuilder and
used high amounts of T on cycles, and I could tell very well when he was on,
and how close to injection he was. I would ask and he would confirm.
He agreed to stay away from my part of town the first few days after
injection.
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