|
Home > Archive > Impotence Support > August 2006 > Is there anything else to try?
You are viewing an archived Text-only version of the thread.
To view this thread in it's original format and/or if you want to reply to
this thread please [click here]
| Author |
Is there anything else to try?
|
|
| jimgrif@yahoo.com 2006-08-28, 4:23 pm |
| Hi,
Am now 45 years old, and noticed about 10 years ago I started having
problems with erections. When viagra came along when I was around 41 I
tried some and it worked outstandingly. Great hard long erections and
could keep going even after an orgasm. The side effects bothered me so
a couple of years ago I switched to Cialis and it worked even better
without the side effects. I also started taking Avapro for blood
pressure and vytorin for cholesterol a couple of years ago. Still,
viagra and cialis worked great. However, about 6-8 months ago, I
noticed that the erections started getting weaker. A couple of months
ago, I noticed that the sensitivity went way down in my penis and it
was harder to have an orgasm.(actually, came too quick before). I now
even barely get hard enough with cialis or viagra. I had my psa
checked and that was normal. My testosterone was at 300 on a 200-800
scale which the urologist said was low but normal.(I have to admit, my
sex drive is not what is was..Perhaps testosterone would help with
obtaining stronger erections?) I then had the trimix(2cc) injected at
the urologist office for an ultrasound. Didn't have any erection at
the office but he said the blood flow was normal.(How can blood flow be
normal when there was no erection with something that is supposed to
give you an erection?) I have a pescription for the trimix but am
wondering if it is worth the expense as I didn't even get much of an
erection at the urologist. I've tried l-argenine to help but that was
to no avail either. My wife has tears now after sex as it is such a
soft erection she doesn't feel anything. And there is certainly no way
in the world I could continue on as before after an orgasm. Is there
anything else to try to get a nice hard erection again or is that a
thing of the past? Or, is an expensive surgery the only other solution?
| |
| itazuke 2006-08-28, 9:21 pm |
| I'm sure others here will echo my remarks, but try reading some of the
prior
posts and you probably will find most of your answers covered. What
you are experiencing we have mostly all had to deal with and there are
answers here, and not to be insensitive but most of what you are asking
is covered in post from the last week or so. The answer for many of us
has been that testosterone is a "two-edged sword" It giveth and it
taketh away. It's an easy fix for the MD's but can be disaster for
you.
John
jimgrif@yahoo.com wrote:
> Am now 45 years old, and noticed about 10 years ago I started having
> problems with erections. When viagra came along when I was around 41 I
> tried some and it worked outstandingly. Great hard long erections and
> could keep going even after an orgasm. The side effects bothered me so
> a couple of years ago I switched to Cialis and it worked even better
> without the side effects. I also started taking Avapro for blood
> pressure and vytorin for cholesterol a couple of years ago. Still,
> viagra and cialis worked great. However, about 6-8 months ago, I
> noticed that the erections started getting weaker. A couple of months
> ago, I noticed that the sensitivity went way down in my penis and it
> was harder to have an orgasm.(actually, came too quick before). I now
> even barely get hard enough with cialis or viagra. I had my psa
> checked and that was normal. My testosterone was at 300 on a 200-800
> scale which the urologist said was low but normal.(I have to admit, my
> sex drive is not what is was..Perhaps testosterone would help with
> obtaining stronger erections?) I then had the trimix(2cc) injected at
> the urologist office for an ultrasound. Didn't have any erection at
> the office but he said the blood flow was normal.(How can blood flow be
> normal when there was no erection with something that is supposed to
> give you an erection?) I have a pescription for the trimix but am
> wondering if it is worth the expense as I didn't even get much of an
> erection at the urologist. I've tried l-argenine to help but that was
> to no avail either. My wife has tears now after sex as it is such a
> soft erection she doesn't feel anything. And there is certainly no way
> in the world I could continue on as before after an orgasm. Is there
> anything else to try to get a nice hard erection again or is that a
> thing of the past? Or, is an expensive surgery the only other solution?
| |
| Wanderer 2006-08-28, 9:21 pm |
| On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:10:38 -0400, jimgrif@yahoo.com wrote
(in article <1156799438.088563.311020@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> ):
> Hi,
> Am now 45 years old, and noticed about 10 years ago I started having
> problems with erections. When viagra came along when I was around 41 I
> tried some and it worked outstandingly. Great hard long erections and
> could keep going even after an orgasm. The side effects bothered me so
> a couple of years ago I switched to Cialis and it worked even better
> without the side effects. I also started taking Avapro for blood
> pressure and vytorin for cholesterol a couple of years ago. Still,
> viagra and cialis worked great. However, about 6-8 months ago, I
> noticed that the erections started getting weaker. A couple of months
> ago, I noticed that the sensitivity went way down in my penis and it
> was harder to have an orgasm.(actually, came too quick before). I now
> even barely get hard enough with cialis or viagra. I had my psa
> checked and that was normal. My testosterone was at 300 on a 200-800
> scale which the urologist said was low but normal.(I have to admit, my
> sex drive is not what is was..Perhaps testosterone would help with
> obtaining stronger erections?) I then had the trimix(2cc) injected at
> the urologist office for an ultrasound. Didn't have any erection at
> the office but he said the blood flow was normal.(How can blood flow be
> normal when there was no erection with something that is supposed to
> give you an erection?) I have a pescription for the trimix but am
> wondering if it is worth the expense as I didn't even get much of an
> erection at the urologist. I've tried l-argenine to help but that was
> to no avail either. My wife has tears now after sex as it is such a
> soft erection she doesn't feel anything. And there is certainly no way
> in the world I could continue on as before after an orgasm. Is there
> anything else to try to get a nice hard erection again or is that a
> thing of the past? Or, is an expensive surgery the only other solution?
>
It's the Avapro, for sure, and possibly the Vytorin as well. If you are in a
position to go off them for a few months, do... I am almost certain you will
get your erections back. There are alternatives to both medications, and you
should search until you find solutions that don't cause you the misery of ED.
These medications are insidious... the side effects creep up on you gradually
so you never even question the actual source of your problems. Sorry for the
rant... but BP and anti-C meds are both erection killers.
Wanderer
| |
|
| jimgrif@yahoo.com wrote:
> Hi,
> Am now 45 years old, and noticed about 10 years ago I started having
> problems with erections. When viagra came along when I was around 41 I
> tried some and it worked outstandingly. Great hard long erections and
> could keep going even after an orgasm. The side effects bothered me so
> a couple of years ago I switched to Cialis and it worked even better
> without the side effects. I also started taking Avapro for blood
> pressure and vytorin for cholesterol a couple of years ago. Still,
> viagra and cialis worked great. However, about 6-8 months ago, I
> noticed that the erections started getting weaker. A couple of months
> ago, I noticed that the sensitivity went way down in my penis and it
> was harder to have an orgasm.(actually, came too quick before). I now
> even barely get hard enough with cialis or viagra. I had my psa
> checked and that was normal. My testosterone was at 300 on a 200-800
> scale which the urologist said was low but normal.(I have to admit, my
> sex drive is not what is was..Perhaps testosterone would help with
> obtaining stronger erections?) I then had the trimix(2cc) injected at
> the urologist office for an ultrasound. Didn't have any erection at
> the office but he said the blood flow was normal.(How can blood flow be
> normal when there was no erection with something that is supposed to
> give you an erection?) I have a pescription for the trimix but am
> wondering if it is worth the expense as I didn't even get much of an
> erection at the urologist. I've tried l-argenine to help but that was
> to no avail either. My wife has tears now after sex as it is such a
> soft erection she doesn't feel anything. And there is certainly no way
> in the world I could continue on as before after an orgasm. Is there
> anything else to try to get a nice hard erection again or is that a
> thing of the past? Or, is an expensive surgery the only other solution?
>
Hmmm,
The good doppler says not to buy into any surgery without a 2nd, 3rd,
4th and maybe 20th other opinion. Ditto, no pouring hormones into your
bod until you know what's wrong.
If that was .02cc of Trimix (two units) it was a "diagnostic" dose and
should trigger just enough blood flow to get a good doppler. You are
probably OK. If it was really a 2cc dose, that's 10 to 20 times what
most of us are using and something is severely wrong.
Before the prescription was written you should have 'demonstrated' a
penetrable erection with a full or "therapeutic" dose of Trimix
(something like 10-25 units). Or, when he wrote the prescription he
should have suggested a starting dose (let's say somewhere between 8 and
15 units) and a "step" increment of one or two units. (Then a follow-up
visit in a couple of weeks.) It may have been a busy day at the office
and the Uro might have thought that a nurse had walked you through all
this. You are talking "twilight zone" stuff. Strange! If this sort of
thing happens again, change Urologists!
Next, call the Uro office nurse and ask for a copy of their Trimix
workup instructions (and priapism instructions), then fill and use the
prescription. Call around for a reasonably priced Sterile Compounding
Pharmacy. ($50-95 for a 5cc vial of standard Trimix.) Remember that on
a 'per-erection' basis, Trimix is the least expensive of the domestic
meds. Buy syringes with 31 gage needles rather than 29s.
Contact Jim / 'avocet' here for typical samples of patient instructions
for Trimix. (These are filed on another website and Jim can provide
them or clue you in on how to access them.)
Meanwhile, I'd get back with your GP doc and take a hard look at the BP
and Cholesterol meds. "Dual shot" meds like Vytorin can have complex
side effects--when was your last liver panel? My doc moved me to Niacin
from statins and I feel healthier and my numbers are better. Any daily
Aspirin or Plavix in your life?
It almost sounds like you are being poisoned. Any new chemicals in your
life -- new chemicals/furnishings at work, new carpet in the bedroom,
new upholstery in the car, new hobby, etc?
You might want to start daily B-complex and emphasize plenty of dark
greens in your diet for a couple of months. Toss the salt shaker and
talk to your GP doc about using Cialis to control your BP. If you can
get Trimix working in co-ordination with Cialis, it might provide a
bridge for sex until you get the rest of your body working right.
In a future post give us a clue on how your NEs are. We're divided on
he subject of pumping to improve NEs but you'll hear both sides of the
story here.
M2CW ...Lmac
| |
| Muerta 2006-08-29, 8:21 am |
|
"Wanderer" <unlisted@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:0001HW.C118E716001EA3AFF0284530@130.81.64.196...
> On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:10:38 -0400, >
> It's the Avapro, for sure, and possibly the Vytorin as well. If you are in
> a
> position to go off them for a few months, do... I am almost certain you
> will
> get your erections back.
Mmmm, Wanderer, I really gotta disagree on the Avapro point, bud.
Avapro is an AT2 antagonist exactly like Cozaar. I switched to Avapro some
years ago when first chasing the ED thing and it did make a difference.
The AT2 anatgonists are all felt to be a "pro-sexual" drug, actually
benefitting sexual function.
It's also very good for the kidneysand several other functions of our
bodies.
| |
| Muerta 2006-08-29, 8:21 am |
|
<jimgrif@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1156799438.088563.311020@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> Hi,
> Am now 45 years old, and noticed about 10 years ago I started having
> problems with erections. When viagra came along when I was around 41 I
> tried some and it worked outstandingly. Great hard long erections and
> could keep going even after an orgasm. The side effects bothered me so
> a couple of years ago I switched to Cialis and it worked even better
> without the side effects. I also started taking Avapro for blood
> pressure and vytorin for cholesterol a couple of years ago. Still,
> viagra and cialis worked great. However, about 6-8 months ago, I
> noticed that the erections started getting weaker. A couple of months
> ago, I noticed that the sensitivity went way down in my penis and it
> was harder to have an orgasm.(actually, came too quick before). I now
> even barely get hard enough with cialis or viagra. I had my psa
> checked and that was normal. My testosterone was at 300 on a 200-800
> scale which the urologist said was low but normal.(I have to admit, my
> sex drive is not what is was..Perhaps testosterone would help with
> obtaining stronger erections?) I then had the trimix(2cc) injected at
> the urologist office for an ultrasound. Didn't have any erection at
> the office but he said the blood flow was normal.(How can blood flow be
> normal when there was no erection with something that is supposed to
> give you an erection?) I have a pescription for the trimix but am
> wondering if it is worth the expense as I didn't even get much of an
> erection at the urologist. I've tried l-argenine to help but that was
> to no avail either. My wife has tears now after sex as it is such a
> soft erection she doesn't feel anything. And there is certainly no way
> in the world I could continue on as before after an orgasm. Is there
> anything else to try to get a nice hard erection again or is that a
> thing of the past? Or, is an expensive surgery the only other solution?
>
Yes, 300 ng/dL is "low normal". I spent several years there, and getting
back to average 600 ng/dL made a *huge* difference.
Any doc that says it doesn't matter (and more than a couple do), is making a
svere mistake for his patients sake.
| |
| Wanderer 2006-08-29, 4:22 pm |
| On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 07:01:44 -0400, Muerta wrote
(in article <fcedna74SuUEg2nZnZ2dnUVZ_o-dnZ2d@comcast.com> ):
>
> "Wanderer" <unlisted@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:0001HW.C118E716001EA3AFF0284530@130.81.64.196...
>
>
> Mmmm, Wanderer, I really gotta disagree on the Avapro point, bud.
>
> Avapro is an AT2 antagonist exactly like Cozaar. I switched to Avapro some
> years ago when first chasing the ED thing and it did make a difference.
>
> The AT2 anatgonists are all felt to be a "pro-sexual" drug, actually
> benefitting sexual function.
>
> It's also very good for the kidneysand several other functions of our
> bodies
I know you like your Avapro, Muerta... and as in all things, YMMV. My doctor
tried me on Avapro after I crapped out on Altace, Cozaar, and about ten other
BP meds. The Avapro made me feel WEIRD and had a negative (subjectively)
impact on my sex life. Whether it is generally a good drug or a bad drug, I
think anytime the onset of ED issues seems to coincide with the onset of a
new drug regimen, you have to try get off the potential offender(s) by any
means possible, and see if your erections return to normal or near-normal.
By the way, here's report on Vytorin the original poster might want to read:
http://www.spacedoc.net/libido_statins.htm
"7 months ago ( December 2004 ) we decided to try the new combo statin,
Vytorin. After one month on the Vytorin my cholesterol went below 150. After
6 months it was down to 133, which at that time I asked my doctor if this
seemed too low and he said no - lower is better. After 4-5 months on the
Vytorin I had noticed ( my wife as well ) that my sex drive seemed to be
diminished and I was having mild erection problems, which I didn't even think
that this was related to the Vytorin use. Then in May of 2005 I had a bad
case of the flu, which took several weeks for me to recover. When I finally
started feeling better my E.D. became worse and low sex drive continued. I
found your site on the internet and that is when I thought that my sexual
problems were due to either my ultra low cholesterol or directly due to the
Vytorin itself. I went back to the doctor and discuss my problem with him. He
did not think that the low cholesterol was in any way causing my problem."
Wanderer
| |
| Jerry Sturdivant 2006-08-29, 4:22 pm |
|
> I then had the trimix(2cc) injected at the urologist office
> for an ultrasound. Didn't have any erection at the office
> but he said the blood flow was normal.(How can blood flow
> be normal when there was no erection with something that
> is supposed to give you an erection?)
LOOK OUT!
One of the biggest mistakes made in using Trimix is believing the shot alone
gives you the desired erection. The shot should give you a plump to 80%
erection. Just as in normal (or teenage) life, the stimulation and desire is
what creates the 100%er. I was among the original users of injection therapy
and believed you injected for full erection. I thought that baby would never
go down.
When you get used to it, you end up being the judge as to whether you want a
long 'after climax' erection, or one that will go down after. Experiment
with it; you'll love it like the rest of us.
Jerry of ASI
| |
| jimgrif@yahoo.com 2006-08-29, 4:22 pm |
| Thanks for all the help so far guys. I will defenitely read the
article on Vytorin. I still have to reread my perscription for the
trimix. I'll have to travel 45 minutes to pick up the perscription as
I live in a small town. One nice thing that seems with the trimix is
that it is very quick acting. The pills take at least an hour to get
into my system. The vytorin certainly loward my cholesterol but not to
unseemingly low cholesterol, but I will definetely read the article
listed. Seems there is a difference of opinion on the Avapro and it
does help my blood pressure. Thanks for the help and comments so far.
jimgrif@yahoo.com wrote:
> Hi,
> Am now 45 years old, and noticed about 10 years ago I started having
> problems with erections. When viagra came along when I was around 41 I
> tried some and it worked outstandingly. Great hard long erections and
> could keep going even after an orgasm. The side effects bothered me so
> a couple of years ago I switched to Cialis and it worked even better
> without the side effects. I also started taking Avapro for blood
> pressure and vytorin for cholesterol a couple of years ago. Still,
> viagra and cialis worked great. However, about 6-8 months ago, I
> noticed that the erections started getting weaker. A couple of months
> ago, I noticed that the sensitivity went way down in my penis and it
> was harder to have an orgasm.(actually, came too quick before). I now
> even barely get hard enough with cialis or viagra. I had my psa
> checked and that was normal. My testosterone was at 300 on a 200-800
> scale which the urologist said was low but normal.(I have to admit, my
> sex drive is not what is was..Perhaps testosterone would help with
> obtaining stronger erections?) I then had the trimix(2cc) injected at
> the urologist office for an ultrasound. Didn't have any erection at
> the office but he said the blood flow was normal.(How can blood flow be
> normal when there was no erection with something that is supposed to
> give you an erection?) I have a pescription for the trimix but am
> wondering if it is worth the expense as I didn't even get much of an
> erection at the urologist. I've tried l-argenine to help but that was
> to no avail either. My wife has tears now after sex as it is such a
> soft erection she doesn't feel anything. And there is certainly no way
> in the world I could continue on as before after an orgasm. Is there
> anything else to try to get a nice hard erection again or is that a
> thing of the past? Or, is an expensive surgery the only other solution?
| |
|
| Wanderer wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 07:01:44 -0400, Muerta wrote
> (in article <fcedna74SuUEg2nZnZ2dnUVZ_o-dnZ2d@comcast.com> ):
>
>
> I know you like your Avapro, Muerta... and as in all things, YMMV. My doctor
> tried me on Avapro after I crapped out on Altace, Cozaar, and about ten other
> BP meds. The Avapro made me feel WEIRD and had a negative (subjectively)
> impact on my sex life. Whether it is generally a good drug or a bad drug, I
> think anytime the onset of ED issues seems to coincide with the onset of a
> new drug regimen, you have to try get off the potential offender(s) by any
> means possible, and see if your erections return to normal or near-normal.
>
> By the way, here's report on Vytorin the original poster might want to read:
>
> http://www.spacedoc.net/libido_statins.htm
>
> "7 months ago ( December 2004 ) we decided to try the new combo statin,
> Vytorin. After one month on the Vytorin my cholesterol went below 150. After
> 6 months it was down to 133, which at that time I asked my doctor if this
> seemed too low and he said no - lower is better. After 4-5 months on the
> Vytorin I had noticed ( my wife as well ) that my sex drive seemed to be
> diminished and I was having mild erection problems, which I didn't even think
> that this was related to the Vytorin use. Then in May of 2005 I had a bad
> case of the flu, which took several weeks for me to recover. When I finally
> started feeling better my E.D. became worse and low sex drive continued. I
> found your site on the internet and that is when I thought that my sexual
> problems were due to either my ultra low cholesterol or directly due to the
> Vytorin itself. I went back to the doctor and discuss my problem with him. He
> did not think that the low cholesterol was in any way causing my problem."
>
> Wanderer
>
Obviously things aren't perfect or I wouldn't be in this newsgroup. No
BP issues but I've got a black belt in elevated serum cholesterol and
since 1980, have been meded with everything from Lopid and
Cholestyramine resin to a variety of statins. Never felt good on any of
it and I agree with SpaceDoc.
I'm convinced that maintaining a high HDL is more important than
constantly sweating total cholesterol. Like Ignatz, I've settled on
Niacin (actually Niaspan). That, sensible eating (but I can still find
steak-fries on the menu) and regular exercise works for me. I again
produce generous amounts of ear wax--something that nearly vanished when
I was on Lopid and statins. Despite 25 years of a Tot. Cholesterol
above 350, my carotids are only 15% obstructed. Better than the average
72 y.o. bear.
I'm beginning to believe that my biggest E.D. hits were/are associated
with daily Aspirin and Plavix (the alternative is open heart surgery).
Also, E.D. is now a great excuse to use Trimix. {;-)
....Lmac
| |
|
| jimgrif@yahoo.com wrote:
> Thanks for all the help so far guys. I will defenitely read the
> article on Vytorin. I still have to reread my perscription for the
> trimix. I'll have to travel 45 minutes to pick up the perscription as
> I live in a small town. ========== snip ========
Find a large-mouth thermos and fill it with ice for the trip. Trimix
should be kept refrigerated at all times. Some of the literature notes
that it's also sensitive to light.
My compounding pharmacist freezes the vial then puts it in a dark green
pill bottle. (No clue as to why green rather than the usual brown.)
....Lmac
| |
| jimgrif@yahoo.com 2006-08-29, 4:22 pm |
| Have read plenty of the other posts, but thanks for the suggestion.
However, what does testosterone give and what does it taketh away?
itazuke wrote:[vbcol=seagreen]
> I'm sure others here will echo my remarks, but try reading some of the
> prior
> posts and you probably will find most of your answers covered. What
> you are experiencing we have mostly all had to deal with and there are
> answers here, and not to be insensitive but most of what you are asking
> is covered in post from the last week or so. The answer for many of us
> has been that testosterone is a "two-edged sword" It giveth and it
> taketh away. It's an easy fix for the MD's but can be disaster for
> you.
> John
>
> jimgrif@yahoo.com wrote:
| |
| itazuke 2006-08-29, 9:22 pm |
| I agree with Muerta; I think what "we" have to realize is those "stats"
are national averages of men (we hope) and in no way reflect "normal".
They are just averages and that's what the MD's don't seem to realize,
either. What is normal for you might not "cut the mustard" for me.
BTW; I think the range is 300-1200 at least the last time I heard it.
Brings up another gripe I have with "normal range" which is the normal
range for males over 60 (or so) for Estradiol. One "expert" consensus
give it as 20-45 another as 30-69
ng/dl when in reality nearly any male who is over 20 ng/dl could be in
trouble. Not just for ED but for cancerous conditions.
It's imortant to get your T up as high as you can ~600 is good, but it
at least as important to get the Estradiol down around 10 or 15. Most
MD's will admit they've NEVER given an Estradiol blood level test for a
male. They need to start and we need to start demanding them.
John
Muerta wrote:
> <jimgrif@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1156799438.088563.311020@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
> Yes, 300 ng/dL is "low normal". I spent several years there, and getting
> back to average 600 ng/dL made a *huge* difference.
>
> Any doc that says it doesn't matter (and more than a couple do), is making a
> svere mistake for his patients sake.
| |
| jimgrif@yahoo.com 2006-08-29, 9:22 pm |
| Lmac,
The perscription was to start with .2cc injections.(missed a .) This
was the dose I was given at the urologist for the ultrasound. This was
the only trimix injection I received. I injected myself with water the
second visit just to perform an injection. My next visit is scheduled
for the middle of November. I guess it's up to me to figure out the
correct dosage.
I will have to look into the niacins and I don't take any aspirin or
plavix..
LMac wrote:
And for the dumb question, what are NE's?
> jimgrif@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> Hmmm,
>
> The good doppler says not to buy into any surgery without a 2nd, 3rd,
> 4th and maybe 20th other opinion. Ditto, no pouring hormones into your
> bod until you know what's wrong.
>
> If that was .02cc of Trimix (two units) it was a "diagnostic" dose and
> should trigger just enough blood flow to get a good doppler. You are
> probably OK. If it was really a 2cc dose, that's 10 to 20 times what
> most of us are using and something is severely wrong.
>
> Before the prescription was written you should have 'demonstrated' a
> penetrable erection with a full or "therapeutic" dose of Trimix
> (something like 10-25 units). Or, when he wrote the prescription he
> should have suggested a starting dose (let's say somewhere between 8 and
> 15 units) and a "step" increment of one or two units. (Then a follow-up
> visit in a couple of weeks.) It may have been a busy day at the office
> and the Uro might have thought that a nurse had walked you through all
> this. You are talking "twilight zone" stuff. Strange! If this sort of
> thing happens again, change Urologists!
>
> Next, call the Uro office nurse and ask for a copy of their Trimix
> workup instructions (and priapism instructions), then fill and use the
> prescription. Call around for a reasonably priced Sterile Compounding
> Pharmacy. ($50-95 for a 5cc vial of standard Trimix.) Remember that on
> a 'per-erection' basis, Trimix is the least expensive of the domestic
> meds. Buy syringes with 31 gage needles rather than 29s.
>
> Contact Jim / 'avocet' here for typical samples of patient instructions
> for Trimix. (These are filed on another website and Jim can provide
> them or clue you in on how to access them.)
>
> Meanwhile, I'd get back with your GP doc and take a hard look at the BP
> and Cholesterol meds. "Dual shot" meds like Vytorin can have complex
> side effects--when was your last liver panel? My doc moved me to Niacin
> from statins and I feel healthier and my numbers are better. Any daily
> Aspirin or Plavix in your life?
>
> It almost sounds like you are being poisoned. Any new chemicals in your
> life -- new chemicals/furnishings at work, new carpet in the bedroom,
> new upholstery in the car, new hobby, etc?
>
> You might want to start daily B-complex and emphasize plenty of dark
> greens in your diet for a couple of months. Toss the salt shaker and
> talk to your GP doc about using Cialis to control your BP. If you can
> get Trimix working in co-ordination with Cialis, it might provide a
> bridge for sex until you get the rest of your body working right.
>
> In a future post give us a clue on how your NEs are. We're divided on
> he subject of pumping to improve NEs but you'll hear both sides of the
> story here.
>
> M2CW ...Lmac
| |
| Muerta 2006-08-30, 8:23 am |
|
"Wanderer" <unlisted@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:0001HW.C119BACD0007EBB8F0407530@130.81.64.196...
>
> I know you like your Avapro, Muerta... and as in all things, YMMV. My
> doctor
> tried me on Avapro after I crapped out on Altace, Cozaar, and about ten
> other
> BP meds. The Avapro made me feel WEIRD and had a negative (subjectively)
> impact on my sex life. Whether it is generally a good drug or a bad drug,
> I
> think anytime the onset of ED issues seems to coincide with the onset of a
> new drug regimen, you have to try get off the potential offender(s) by any
> means possible, and see if your erections return to normal or near-normal.
>
Yeah, we ain't all cookie-cutter. Drag about Avapro having that effect on
you. Did you try Cozaar or just bail out of the AT2 antagonists?
| |
| Muerta 2006-08-30, 8:23 am |
|
<jimgrif@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1156879796.896657.184440@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> Have read plenty of the other posts, but thanks for the suggestion.
> However, what does testosterone give and what does it taketh away?
>
Wow, I don't think we can encapsulate that in a post.
Summary:
It giveth:
Muscle tone
Libido
Mental alertness
An overall sense of well being
Energy
Stamina
It taketh away:
The blues
|
| |
|
|