Impotence Support - My personal experience: An ED breakthrough (long)

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My personal experience: An ED breakthrough (long)

viagrabluehaze@yahoo.com

2006-06-26, 4:21 pm

Hi gang,

It's been quite a while since I've contributed to this list, and I
thought I'd update you all on my progress. I have had some very
recent improvements in my past ED, and as hindsight is 20/20, It's my
expectation that the details of my situation will give hope to others
in similar circumstances.

As a reference, here are some of my old postings:
http://groups.google.com/groups?sou...aze&sa=N&tab=wg

Just to recap: I'm a reasonably healthy 38 year old who experienced
ED for the first time in his life back in Feb. 2004. I chugged along
for about 9-months absolutely DREADING intimate encounters with my
girlfriend; though I knew I wanted hot-sex with her, I had a few bouts
of limp-dick which pretty much put a cloud over any future perspective
sexual interludes. I'd end up obsessing about whether I'd measure
up, and if I could keep it up. It really ruined the enjoyment, and
turned sex into a nervous and embarrassing chore.

I finally gave in and took ED drugs for a spin, and found that Viagra
worked best for me...I was so happy to have great boners back; in fact,
I'd forgotten how wonderful a really hard-one was since it'd been a
while. Sex was great, and I felt like my old sexual self...or so I
thought.

In Feb. 2005, I was diagnosed with low-testosterone, which really
supprised me; I ate well, I exercised regularly (heavy weight-lifting),
and I'm a pretty big, reasonably hairy guy with a deep voice...etc.
Yeah, I've got testosterone in here somewhere! But the blood-tests
didn't lie. The doc said this could be a result of many different
factors, and could certainly cause ED. I HAD been under a great deal of
stress work-wise, and I wasn't entirely satisfied with my life thus
far, and I actually felt depressed on a regular basis. I just figured
this was all a part of growing-up (not growing-old!). I refused to
believe that my depression and ED were part of a natural-process
though. My urologist suggested that I go on testosterone therapy, which
consisted of 0.5mg of 1% Testim gel applied once daily. I did this, for
about 1-year. It was very expensive (about $250/month), and my
insurance would not cover it. The doc suggested that this treatment may
also reduce the depression I knew I'd been feeling since it might be
connected to my reduced T. Well, I suppose you can see the vicious
circle here: was it that my reduced T caused my ED, which contributed
to depression, which caused enhanced stress, which reduced T...etc.? To
top it off, I was shelling out serious $$$ for Viagra AND Testim. Well,
after hanging up on the Testim (which I found out later can cause
STERILITY!!!...I was just a plain idiot not to research this better,
and I'm upset that my urologist hadn't informed me of this until
AFTER I stopped treatment...quote: "Well, you're better off anyway,
if you plan on having children."). My ED hadn't improved, and
neither had my depression. At that point, I was very concerned that
without the artificial T that my body was relying on, my ED would get
dramatically WORSE. I think too much already, I didn't need THAT new
stress.

I decided it was time to get my head straight.

Though I consider myself to be physically strong and healthy, I have
also been a heavy beer-drinker. I LOVE beer, and have since I was about
16. Over the years, I had developed a very comfortable habit of
chugging the stuff like milk on a daily basis. I'd never considered
that I had a drinking-problem per se, but the habit had certainly come
to a point that I wouldn't go a day without a few beers. I was EASILY
pounding a 6-pack a night, and enough to drown a jellyfish on weekends.
My social-life had become a blur of bar-hopping and beer-swilling. On
top of all this, I was shelling out $$$ for all this...HUGE amounts
that I'd never keep track of. I wasn't a "drunk", but my
drinking HAD become a problem.

I ended up going to see a psychologist, and met with her once a week.
She figured that I was mildly depressed, and I was probably
self-medicating with the beer. She could not prescribe medication, and
I was VERY reluctant to take ANY medication (I don't even like taking
aspirin), but the fact that I had no problems putting huge amounts of
beer and Viagra into me, I decided to consider it. She suggested
Wellbutrin, which is a mild though effective anti-depressant that is
actually used as an aid for smoking cessation as well. I went to my GP,
and he agreed to prescribe me some.

Well, I've been on the med for about 10-weeks now, and quit the beer
cold-turkey when I began (I'm fortunate enough to be able to do stuff
like that...I quit smoking the same way back in 2000). And the first
think I noticed after about a week of the med and no beer was that my
libido was resurfacing. I really find it hard to describe entirely, but
it was like rediscovering puberty...seriously. I had FORGOTTEN what a
normal sex-drive was like. I slowly started to get some nice morning
boners going, then after the second week, I'd get them sitting at my
desk, or walking down the street. When I was in town at the
coffee-shop, I was surprised by all the wonderfully evil thoughts of
XXXXing every good-looking woman who walked into the place; imagining
putting them over the table, pulling their sweats down over their XXX
and hastily pulling their panties aside, and...well...you get the
picture! I was so surprised and happy about it. I was HUNGRY again! I
was happy enough to tell my girlfriend about it (big mistake, she was
PISSED about the imagining XXXXing other women), but later she'd
admitted it actually turned her on: I was thinking like a healthy male
animal. Also, I find that I need to masturbate more often. I now this
might be considered a bad thing by some, but I have no qualms about it.
I expect I need to do it about 10 time a week, and on some special
occasions, it's between 3 and 4 times a day (not too common though).
There have also been occasions where I'd feel exceptionally randy,
that I'd take care of myself, then my girlfriend would call to let me
know she was in heat, and I had no problems performing for her within
an hour or two.

I know I probably have my own personal issues to deal with, some of
which directly affected my libido and therefore my erections. We humans
are really complex machines, aren't we? But I highly suggest that if
you DO drink, consider stopping...entirely. I know how difficult it can
be...like I said, I'm lucky enough to be able to quit addictive
things once I've convinced myself they're bad for me, but it would
have been very easy to go back...the good-stuff takes a few weeks to
start bubbling up, so don't give up. The positive affects of NO
ALCOHOL on my libido FAR outweigh the pleasure of enjoying a few beers,
trust me. I only regret I hadn't started FAR sooner, like 15-years
ago. I'll live happier, healthier, richer, and more sexually without
it. As for the Wellbutrin, this is one of the only anti-depressants on
the market that has been shown to actually enhance libido in some
patients, so I'm not sure if the lack of alcohol or the med is the
strongest contributing factor here. I'm hoping it's the lack of beer!

Good luck fellas!

Jim

2006-06-27, 2:23 am

And wow. What a story. Good for you.

Jim

___________
viagrabluehaze@yahoo.com wrote:
> Hi gang,
>
> It's been quite a while since I've contributed to this list, and I
> thought I'd update you all on my progress. I have had some very
> recent improvements in my past ED...

anonanon1608@yahoo.com

2006-06-27, 9:21 pm

Cool. Are you still on the Viaga?

viagrabluehaze@yahoo.com

2006-06-28, 4:22 pm

Hey AA,

That is a very good question. Yes, in fact, I have supplimented my
recent laisons with 50mg of this cheap V knock-off a buddy of mine
turned me on to...it goes for about $1.30US per 100mg pill, and is
easily broken in two by hand (they provided a convenient score in the
pill for splitting). I'll get the details on his supplier if anyone
needs it. In any case, I litterally have a sack of the stuff on
reserve, though I honestly believe I can stop using it entirely in the
near future. I suspect that I've been using it sort of like a
security-lanket now; the disappointment of ED makes want to avoid it
again at all costs. I am "recovering" though! I will reaffirm though
(emphasis on "firm") that I am amazed at the alcohol cessasion has
DRASTICALLY improved both my erections AND sexual desire. I had no idea
my libido was so low...I'd literally forgotten what it was like to be
horney like that.

Listen, all I can say that I am extraordinarily happy with my personal
progress, and one of the only reasons that I am so loquatious about it
is because I WISHED I'd known this all sooner about how easy it was to
solve my particular, though what I believe to be a common and
distressful problem; I hope this advice can help at least one other
sufferer. I expect to stop using V soon. I only take these 50mg pops
when I'm with my girl (yeah, only one...by the way, I notice a few guys
on here who complain about ED while claiming they have multiple
partners...RIGHT! And, by the way, this is the same hottie I mentioned
in my previous posts from 2004 onward). And this is like once a week if
I'm lucky. She lives far away, and gas prices are up! Suffice it to
say, I used to have trouble getting it up when she was bottomless,
horny, presenting her XXX to me on my bed on all fours, and saying
"XXXX me!" when I hadn't had it in a while. Well, now I get
"embarassing" boners all the time, V independent. For instance, I took
her out for ice-cream last night. She looked HOT, and we weren't
messing around or anything. I hadn't used the V...YET...and we were
just sitting there holding hands and talking before I was to run into
the ice-cream shop to get the cones. Well, just that simple interaction
got me horney, and I got uncontrollably rock-hard. I had to laugh, as
did she, since I wasn't able to walk into the ice-cream shop until I
calmed down! I mean, there were CHILDREN there for chrissake! I'd never
ben so happy to be embarassed by a bulge. Funny thing about sexuality
too; since I got naturally and uncontollably aroused by being with her,
SHE became aroused, and it all feeds on itself. Isn't it great when it
works right?!? Hell, I'm getting hard RIGHT NOW thinking about what
happened AFTER the ice-cream. In any case, I appologize to anyone who
reads my positive posts and feels I'm gloating; on the contrary, I
totally empathize, and know now there is hope for fellas in my
particular perdiciment. Guys, if you recognize yourself in me, STOP
DRINKING!!! ... and get a little exercise. Your girl and your dick will
thank you for it. And everyone: I wish you luck in your pursuit of
libido and boners...it's the cream of life.

anonanon1608@yahoo.com wrote:
> Cool. Are you still on the Viaga?

rbl2dnd@gmail.com

2006-06-30, 2:21 am

viagrabluehaze@yahoo.com wrote:
> Hey AA,
>
> That is a very good question. Yes, in fact, I have supplimented my
> recent laisons with 50mg of this cheap V knock-off a buddy of mine
> turned me on to...it goes for about $1.30US per 100mg pill, and is
> easily broken in two by hand (they provided a convenient score in the
> pill for splitting). I'll get the details on his supplier if anyone
> needs it.

Details on the supplier would be appreciated. Thanks!

John

2006-07-02, 4:23 pm

Congratulations on your success! Would you mind telling us what your
Testosterone level was before and after you got better (i.e. before and
after you went on Wellbutrin & cut down on the alcohol)? I'm just curious to
know to what extent the natural T production can be restored, and how much
the T level differs...

> Hi gang,
>
> It's been quite a while since I've contributed to this list, and I
> thought I'd update you all on my progress. I have had some very
> recent improvements in my past ED, and as hindsight is 20/20, It's my
> expectation that the details of my situation will give hope to others
> in similar circumstances.
>
> As a reference, here are some of my old postings:
> http://groups.google.com/groups?sou...aze&sa=N&tab=wg
>
> Just to recap: I'm a reasonably healthy 38 year old who experienced
> ED for the first time in his life back in Feb. 2004. I chugged along
> for about 9-months absolutely DREADING intimate encounters with my
> girlfriend; though I knew I wanted hot-sex with her, I had a few bouts
> of limp-dick which pretty much put a cloud over any future perspective
> sexual interludes. I'd end up obsessing about whether I'd measure
> up, and if I could keep it up. It really ruined the enjoyment, and
> turned sex into a nervous and embarrassing chore.
>
> I finally gave in and took ED drugs for a spin, and found that Viagra
> worked best for me...I was so happy to have great boners back; in fact,
> I'd forgotten how wonderful a really hard-one was since it'd been a
> while. Sex was great, and I felt like my old sexual self...or so I
> thought.
>
> In Feb. 2005, I was diagnosed with low-testosterone, which really
> supprised me; I ate well, I exercised regularly (heavy weight-lifting),
> and I'm a pretty big, reasonably hairy guy with a deep voice...etc.
> Yeah, I've got testosterone in here somewhere! But the blood-tests
> didn't lie. The doc said this could be a result of many different
> factors, and could certainly cause ED. I HAD been under a great deal of
> stress work-wise, and I wasn't entirely satisfied with my life thus
> far, and I actually felt depressed on a regular basis. I just figured
> this was all a part of growing-up (not growing-old!). I refused to
> believe that my depression and ED were part of a natural-process
> though. My urologist suggested that I go on testosterone therapy, which
> consisted of 0.5mg of 1% Testim gel applied once daily. I did this, for
> about 1-year. It was very expensive (about $250/month), and my
> insurance would not cover it. The doc suggested that this treatment may
> also reduce the depression I knew I'd been feeling since it might be
> connected to my reduced T. Well, I suppose you can see the vicious
> circle here: was it that my reduced T caused my ED, which contributed
> to depression, which caused enhanced stress, which reduced T...etc.? To
> top it off, I was shelling out serious $$$ for Viagra AND Testim. Well,
> after hanging up on the Testim (which I found out later can cause
> STERILITY!!!...I was just a plain idiot not to research this better,
> and I'm upset that my urologist hadn't informed me of this until
> AFTER I stopped treatment...quote: "Well, you're better off anyway,
> if you plan on having children."). My ED hadn't improved, and
> neither had my depression. At that point, I was very concerned that
> without the artificial T that my body was relying on, my ED would get
> dramatically WORSE. I think too much already, I didn't need THAT new
> stress.
>
> I decided it was time to get my head straight.
>
> Though I consider myself to be physically strong and healthy, I have
> also been a heavy beer-drinker. I LOVE beer, and have since I was about
> 16. Over the years, I had developed a very comfortable habit of
> chugging the stuff like milk on a daily basis. I'd never considered
> that I had a drinking-problem per se, but the habit had certainly come
> to a point that I wouldn't go a day without a few beers. I was EASILY
> pounding a 6-pack a night, and enough to drown a jellyfish on weekends.
> My social-life had become a blur of bar-hopping and beer-swilling. On
> top of all this, I was shelling out $$$ for all this...HUGE amounts
> that I'd never keep track of. I wasn't a "drunk", but my
> drinking HAD become a problem.
>
> I ended up going to see a psychologist, and met with her once a week.
> She figured that I was mildly depressed, and I was probably
> self-medicating with the beer. She could not prescribe medication, and
> I was VERY reluctant to take ANY medication (I don't even like taking
> aspirin), but the fact that I had no problems putting huge amounts of
> beer and Viagra into me, I decided to consider it. She suggested
> Wellbutrin, which is a mild though effective anti-depressant that is
> actually used as an aid for smoking cessation as well. I went to my GP,
> and he agreed to prescribe me some.
>
> Well, I've been on the med for about 10-weeks now, and quit the beer
> cold-turkey when I began (I'm fortunate enough to be able to do stuff
> like that...I quit smoking the same way back in 2000). And the first
> think I noticed after about a week of the med and no beer was that my
> libido was resurfacing. I really find it hard to describe entirely, but
> it was like rediscovering puberty...seriously. I had FORGOTTEN what a
> normal sex-drive was like. I slowly started to get some nice morning
> boners going, then after the second week, I'd get them sitting at my
> desk, or walking down the street. When I was in town at the
> coffee-shop, I was surprised by all the wonderfully evil thoughts of
> XXXXing every good-looking woman who walked into the place; imagining
> putting them over the table, pulling their sweats down over their XXX
> and hastily pulling their panties aside, and...well...you get the
> picture! I was so surprised and happy about it. I was HUNGRY again! I
> was happy enough to tell my girlfriend about it (big mistake, she was
> PISSED about the imagining XXXXing other women), but later she'd
> admitted it actually turned her on: I was thinking like a healthy male
> animal. Also, I find that I need to masturbate more often. I now this
> might be considered a bad thing by some, but I have no qualms about it.
> I expect I need to do it about 10 time a week, and on some special
> occasions, it's between 3 and 4 times a day (not too common though).
> There have also been occasions where I'd feel exceptionally randy,
> that I'd take care of myself, then my girlfriend would call to let me
> know she was in heat, and I had no problems performing for her within
> an hour or two.
>
> I know I probably have my own personal issues to deal with, some of
> which directly affected my libido and therefore my erections. We humans
> are really complex machines, aren't we? But I highly suggest that if
> you DO drink, consider stopping...entirely. I know how difficult it can
> be...like I said, I'm lucky enough to be able to quit addictive
> things once I've convinced myself they're bad for me, but it would
> have been very easy to go back...the good-stuff takes a few weeks to
> start bubbling up, so don't give up. The positive affects of NO
> ALCOHOL on my libido FAR outweigh the pleasure of enjoying a few beers,
> trust me. I only regret I hadn't started FAR sooner, like 15-years
> ago. I'll live happier, healthier, richer, and more sexually without
> it. As for the Wellbutrin, this is one of the only anti-depressants on
> the market that has been shown to actually enhance libido in some
> patients, so I'm not sure if the lack of alcohol or the med is the
> strongest contributing factor here. I'm hoping it's the lack of beer!
>
> Good luck fellas!
>

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Bad2thebone

2006-07-12, 4:22 pm

viagrabluehaze@yahoo.com wrote:
> Hi gang,
>
> It's been quite a while since I've contributed to this list, and I
> thought I'd update you all on my progress. I have had some very
> recent improvements in my past ED, and as hindsight is 20/20, It's my
> expectation that the details of my situation will give hope to others
> in similar circumstances.
>
> As a reference, here are some of my old postings:
> http://groups.google.com/groups?sou...aze&sa=N&tab=wg
>
> Just to recap: I'm a reasonably healthy 38 year old who experienced
> ED for the first time in his life back in Feb. 2004. I chugged along
> for about 9-months absolutely DREADING intimate encounters with my
> girlfriend; though I knew I wanted hot-sex with her, I had a few bouts
> of limp-dick which pretty much put a cloud over any future perspective
> sexual interludes. I'd end up obsessing about whether I'd measure
> up, and if I could keep it up. It really ruined the enjoyment, and
> turned sex into a nervous and embarrassing chore.
>
> I finally gave in and took ED drugs for a spin, and found that Viagra
> worked best for me...I was so happy to have great boners back; in fact,
> I'd forgotten how wonderful a really hard-one was since it'd been a
> while. Sex was great, and I felt like my old sexual self...or so I
> thought.
>
> In Feb. 2005, I was diagnosed with low-testosterone, which really
> supprised me; I ate well, I exercised regularly (heavy weight-lifting),
> and I'm a pretty big, reasonably hairy guy with a deep voice...etc.
> Yeah, I've got testosterone in here somewhere! But the blood-tests
> didn't lie. The doc said this could be a result of many different
> factors, and could certainly cause ED. I HAD been under a great deal of
> stress work-wise, and I wasn't entirely satisfied with my life thus
> far, and I actually felt depressed on a regular basis. I just figured
> this was all a part of growing-up (not growing-old!). I refused to
> believe that my depression and ED were part of a natural-process
> though. My urologist suggested that I go on testosterone therapy, which
> consisted of 0.5mg of 1% Testim gel applied once daily. I did this, for
> about 1-year. It was very expensive (about $250/month), and my
> insurance would not cover it. The doc suggested that this treatment may
> also reduce the depression I knew I'd been feeling since it might be
> connected to my reduced T. Well, I suppose you can see the vicious
> circle here: was it that my reduced T caused my ED, which contributed
> to depression, which caused enhanced stress, which reduced T...etc.? To
> top it off, I was shelling out serious $$$ for Viagra AND Testim. Well,
> after hanging up on the Testim (which I found out later can cause
> STERILITY!!!...I was just a plain idiot not to research this better,
> and I'm upset that my urologist hadn't informed me of this until
> AFTER I stopped treatment...quote: "Well, you're better off anyway,
> if you plan on having children."). My ED hadn't improved, and
> neither had my depression. At that point, I was very concerned that
> without the artificial T that my body was relying on, my ED would get
> dramatically WORSE. I think too much already, I didn't need THAT new
> stress.
>
> I decided it was time to get my head straight.
>
> Though I consider myself to be physically strong and healthy, I have
> also been a heavy beer-drinker. I LOVE beer, and have since I was about
> 16. Over the years, I had developed a very comfortable habit of
> chugging the stuff like milk on a daily basis. I'd never considered
> that I had a drinking-problem per se, but the habit had certainly come
> to a point that I wouldn't go a day without a few beers. I was EASILY
> pounding a 6-pack a night, and enough to drown a jellyfish on weekends.
> My social-life had become a blur of bar-hopping and beer-swilling. On
> top of all this, I was shelling out $$$ for all this...HUGE amounts
> that I'd never keep track of. I wasn't a "drunk", but my
> drinking HAD become a problem.
>
> I ended up going to see a psychologist, and met with her once a week.
> She figured that I was mildly depressed, and I was probably
> self-medicating with the beer. She could not prescribe medication, and
> I was VERY reluctant to take ANY medication (I don't even like taking
> aspirin), but the fact that I had no problems putting huge amounts of
> beer and Viagra into me, I decided to consider it. She suggested
> Wellbutrin, which is a mild though effective anti-depressant that is
> actually used as an aid for smoking cessation as well. I went to my GP,
> and he agreed to prescribe me some.
>
> Well, I've been on the med for about 10-weeks now, and quit the beer
> cold-turkey when I began (I'm fortunate enough to be able to do stuff
> like that...I quit smoking the same way back in 2000). And the first
> think I noticed after about a week of the med and no beer was that my
> libido was resurfacing. I really find it hard to describe entirely, but
> it was like rediscovering puberty...seriously. I had FORGOTTEN what a
> normal sex-drive was like. I slowly started to get some nice morning
> boners going, then after the second week, I'd get them sitting at my
> desk, or walking down the street. When I was in town at the
> coffee-shop, I was surprised by all the wonderfully evil thoughts of
> XXXXing every good-looking woman who walked into the place; imagining
> putting them over the table, pulling their sweats down over their XXX
> and hastily pulling their panties aside, and...well...you get the
> picture! I was so surprised and happy about it. I was HUNGRY again! I
> was happy enough to tell my girlfriend about it (big mistake, she was
> PISSED about the imagining XXXXing other women), but later she'd
> admitted it actually turned her on: I was thinking like a healthy male
> animal. Also, I find that I need to masturbate more often. I now this
> might be considered a bad thing by some, but I have no qualms about it.
> I expect I need to do it about 10 time a week, and on some special
> occasions, it's between 3 and 4 times a day (not too common though).
> There have also been occasions where I'd feel exceptionally randy,
> that I'd take care of myself, then my girlfriend would call to let me
> know she was in heat, and I had no problems performing for her within
> an hour or two.
>
> I know I probably have my own personal issues to deal with, some of
> which directly affected my libido and therefore my erections. We humans
> are really complex machines, aren't we? But I highly suggest that if
> you DO drink, consider stopping...entirely. I know how difficult it can
> be...like I said, I'm lucky enough to be able to quit addictive
> things once I've convinced myself they're bad for me, but it would
> have been very easy to go back...the good-stuff takes a few weeks to
> start bubbling up, so don't give up. The positive affects of NO
> ALCOHOL on my libido FAR outweigh the pleasure of enjoying a few beers,
> trust me. I only regret I hadn't started FAR sooner, like 15-years
> ago. I'll live happier, healthier, richer, and more sexually without
> it. As for the Wellbutrin, this is one of the only anti-depressants on
> the market that has been shown to actually enhance libido in some
> patients, so I'm not sure if the lack of alcohol or the med is the
> strongest contributing factor here. I'm hoping it's the lack of beer!
>
> Good luck fellas!

Bad2thebone

2006-07-12, 4:22 pm

!!!!! Testosterone !!!!!!!!! do you know of anyone that has
had sucuess with Testosterone therapy , besides your own experience ??
I have used cialis, which worked for 60 days Wonderfully , and
fizzeled out shortly there after, even tried Viagra which was'nt much
help .. Visitied a Doc yesterday and he wanted to do a check on my
Testosterone, awaiting results now.
Besides , I can use a little kick in the butt at the gym too !
I know the side effects , whuch dont concern me in the least. thanks
in advance for your comments .

viagrabluehaze@yahoo.com wrote:
> Hi gang,
>
> It's been quite a while since I've contributed to this list, and I
> thought I'd update you all on my progress. I have had some very
> recent improvements in my past ED, and as hindsight is 20/20, It's my
> expectation that the details of my situation will give hope to others
> in similar circumstances.
>
> As a reference, here are some of my old postings:
> http://groups.google.com/groups?sou...aze&sa=N&tab=wg
>
> Just to recap: I'm a reasonably healthy 38 year old who experienced
> ED for the first time in his life back in Feb. 2004. I chugged along
> for about 9-months absolutely DREADING intimate encounters with my
> girlfriend; though I knew I wanted hot-sex with her, I had a few bouts
> of limp-dick which pretty much put a cloud over any future perspective
> sexual interludes. I'd end up obsessing about whether I'd measure
> up, and if I could keep it up. It really ruined the enjoyment, and
> turned sex into a nervous and embarrassing chore.
>
> I finally gave in and took ED drugs for a spin, and found that Viagra
> worked best for me...I was so happy to have great boners back; in fact,
> I'd forgotten how wonderful a really hard-one was since it'd been a
> while. Sex was great, and I felt like my old sexual self...or so I
> thought.
>
> In Feb. 2005, I was diagnosed with low-testosterone, which really
> supprised me; I ate well, I exercised regularly (heavy weight-lifting),
> and I'm a pretty big, reasonably hairy guy with a deep voice...etc.
> Yeah, I've got testosterone in here somewhere! But the blood-tests
> didn't lie. The doc said this could be a result of many different
> factors, and could certainly cause ED. I HAD been under a great deal of
> stress work-wise, and I wasn't entirely satisfied with my life thus
> far, and I actually felt depressed on a regular basis. I just figured
> this was all a part of growing-up (not growing-old!). I refused to
> believe that my depression and ED were part of a natural-process
> though. My urologist suggested that I go on testosterone therapy, which
> consisted of 0.5mg of 1% Testim gel applied once daily. I did this, for
> about 1-year. It was very expensive (about $250/month), and my
> insurance would not cover it. The doc suggested that this treatment may
> also reduce the depression I knew I'd been feeling since it might be
> connected to my reduced T. Well, I suppose you can see the vicious
> circle here: was it that my reduced T caused my ED, which contributed
> to depression, which caused enhanced stress, which reduced T...etc.? To
> top it off, I was shelling out serious $$$ for Viagra AND Testim. Well,
> after hanging up on the Testim (which I found out later can cause
> STERILITY!!!...I was just a plain idiot not to research this better,
> and I'm upset that my urologist hadn't informed me of this until
> AFTER I stopped treatment...quote: "Well, you're better off anyway,
> if you plan on having children."). My ED hadn't improved, and
> neither had my depression. At that point, I was very concerned that
> without the artificial T that my body was relying on, my ED would get
> dramatically WORSE. I think too much already, I didn't need THAT new
> stress.
>
> I decided it was time to get my head straight.
>
> Though I consider myself to be physically strong and healthy, I have
> also been a heavy beer-drinker. I LOVE beer, and have since I was about
> 16. Over the years, I had developed a very comfortable habit of
> chugging the stuff like milk on a daily basis. I'd never considered
> that I had a drinking-problem per se, but the habit had certainly come
> to a point that I wouldn't go a day without a few beers. I was EASILY
> pounding a 6-pack a night, and enough to drown a jellyfish on weekends.
> My social-life had become a blur of bar-hopping and beer-swilling. On
> top of all this, I was shelling out $$$ for all this...HUGE amounts
> that I'd never keep track of. I wasn't a "drunk", but my
> drinking HAD become a problem.
>
> I ended up going to see a psychologist, and met with her once a week.
> She figured that I was mildly depressed, and I was probably
> self-medicating with the beer. She could not prescribe medication, and
> I was VERY reluctant to take ANY medication (I don't even like taking
> aspirin), but the fact that I had no problems putting huge amounts of
> beer and Viagra into me, I decided to consider it. She suggested
> Wellbutrin, which is a mild though effective anti-depressant that is
> actually used as an aid for smoking cessation as well. I went to my GP,
> and he agreed to prescribe me some.
>
> Well, I've been on the med for about 10-weeks now, and quit the beer
> cold-turkey when I began (I'm fortunate enough to be able to do stuff
> like that...I quit smoking the same way back in 2000). And the first
> think I noticed after about a week of the med and no beer was that my
> libido was resurfacing. I really find it hard to describe entirely, but
> it was like rediscovering puberty...seriously. I had FORGOTTEN what a
> normal sex-drive was like. I slowly started to get some nice morning
> boners going, then after the second week, I'd get them sitting at my
> desk, or walking down the street. When I was in town at the
> coffee-shop, I was surprised by all the wonderfully evil thoughts of
> XXXXing every good-looking woman who walked into the place; imagining
> putting them over the table, pulling their sweats down over their XXX
> and hastily pulling their panties aside, and...well...you get the
> picture! I was so surprised and happy about it. I was HUNGRY again! I
> was happy enough to tell my girlfriend about it (big mistake, she was
> PISSED about the imagining XXXXing other women), but later she'd
> admitted it actually turned her on: I was thinking like a healthy male
> animal. Also, I find that I need to masturbate more often. I now this
> might be considered a bad thing by some, but I have no qualms about it.
> I expect I need to do it about 10 time a week, and on some special
> occasions, it's between 3 and 4 times a day (not too common though).
> There have also been occasions where I'd feel exceptionally randy,
> that I'd take care of myself, then my girlfriend would call to let me
> know she was in heat, and I had no problems performing for her within
> an hour or two.
>
> I know I probably have my own personal issues to deal with, some of
> which directly affected my libido and therefore my erections. We humans
> are really complex machines, aren't we? But I highly suggest that if
> you DO drink, consider stopping...entirely. I know how difficult it can
> be...like I said, I'm lucky enough to be able to quit addictive
> things once I've convinced myself they're bad for me, but it would
> have been very easy to go back...the good-stuff takes a few weeks to
> start bubbling up, so don't give up. The positive affects of NO
> ALCOHOL on my libido FAR outweigh the pleasure of enjoying a few beers,
> trust me. I only regret I hadn't started FAR sooner, like 15-years
> ago. I'll live happier, healthier, richer, and more sexually without
> it. As for the Wellbutrin, this is one of the only anti-depressants on
> the market that has been shown to actually enhance libido in some
> patients, so I'm not sure if the lack of alcohol or the med is the
> strongest contributing factor here. I'm hoping it's the lack of beer!
>
> Good luck fellas!

Muerta

2006-07-13, 4:21 pm

"Bad2thebone" <labetteboy@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1152735123.101692.115320@35g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> !!!!! Testosterone !!!!!!!!! do you know of anyone that has
> had sucuess with Testosterone therapy , besides your own experience ??

Uhhh, yeah, a lot of us here.

You're not going to get it from gels, however.

Bad2thebone

2006-07-13, 4:21 pm

Muerta wrote:
> "Bad2thebone" <labetteboy@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1152735123.101692.115320@35g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
>
> Uhhh, yeah, a lot of us here.
>
> You're not going to get it from gels, however.

I'm not sure what my insurance is going to cover . what do you have
sucess with ?shots?

My next question,, does testosterone increase your sex drive alot ( I
sure hope so )

thanks for your replys

Muerta

2006-07-14, 8:22 am

"Bad2thebone" <labetteboy@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> Muerta wrote:
>
> I'm not sure what my insurance is going to cover . what do you have
> sucess with ?shots?
>
> My next question,, does testosterone increase your sex drive alot ( I
> sure hope so )
>
> thanks for your replys

>

Well, here's the bare bones edition.....

As with a few others around here, I inject about .6 mg of 200 mg per ml of T
cypionate once a week. A bottle of T cypionate runs me about $115 for 10 ml,
which comes out to about 4 months, which equates to about $28.75 a month.

When I was on Androgel, @ 10mg a day, it was $250 a month....for 1 1/2
years.

My insurance company is ecstatic.

Androgel kept me, as it does, with an E2 level of over 200% of max. I was
near lactation. The T-ctpionate is easy to control estrone with, it does not
aromataze like gels, and my E2 stays around 35 pg/dl with three DIM caps a
day.

With Androgel, my T level never went over 300 ng/dl, and with the T-cyp it
averages about 600 ng/dl.

Yes, the sex drive gets a BIG boost off of it.

Any more questions, I'll be glad to do what I can.