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phoenix-419

2006-06-09, 9:21 pm

I finally got the *balls* to print out some info on PE and hand it to
my husband. He wouldn't talk about it for a couple of days, but I snuck
it into our conversations here and there until he finally admitted that
PE is a problem.

Well, I'm not sure if just talking about it openly- as a problem that
has a solution helped, or if that night was just a fluke... but we had
good, hard, bed-moving sex for at least 5 minutes. My eyes weren't on
the clock, but from what I could tell- it was between 5-10 mins.

We haven't had sex again since that night, so who knows what'll happen
the next time... but at least he feels better about his performance.

We also talked about masturbating in the morning (during the day is
impracticle because he's at work) if we're going to have sex at night,
which someone advised. We find *a good blow-job* more fun- but that's
what we're trying for now. He still doesn't want to go to the doctor-
but it's a start!

Michael

2006-06-10, 2:22 am

It's hard to complain about a good blow-job. Keep up the good work. ;)

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>I We find *a good blow-job* more fun- >



Muerta

2006-06-10, 8:22 am

Stretching the memory cells, I really don't believe I ever complained about
a bad one. ;-)

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> It's hard to complain about a good blow-job. >


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maven@netzero.com

2006-06-10, 8:22 am

No such thing as a bad BJ.
halfmast@bellsouth.net

2006-06-10, 4:22 pm

I had this problem while married to my first wife. I was the one who
brought up the subject. She said she didn't consider it a problem.
She could get off by rubbing my penis against her clit. It was
uncomfortable for me, but I still managed to come afterwards. Also, i
was (and still am) capable of delivering good oral sex to my partner
(now my second wife), at least I have never had any complaints in that
department. As for PE, it's a thing of the past for me, because E is
a thing of the past, having lost the battle against ED. Oh well, it
was good while it lasted.

On 9 Jun 2006 17:02:15 -0700, "phoenix-419" <phoenix-419@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>I finally got the *balls* to print out some info on PE and hand it to
>my husband. He wouldn't talk about it for a couple of days, but I snuck
>it into our conversations here and there until he finally admitted that
>PE is a problem.
>
>Well, I'm not sure if just talking about it openly- as a problem that
>has a solution helped, or if that night was just a fluke... but we had
>good, hard, bed-moving sex for at least 5 minutes. My eyes weren't on
>the clock, but from what I could tell- it was between 5-10 mins.
>
>We haven't had sex again since that night, so who knows what'll happen
>the next time... but at least he feels better about his performance.
>
>We also talked about masturbating in the morning (during the day is
>impracticle because he's at work) if we're going to have sex at night,
>which someone advised. We find *a good blow-job* more fun- but that's
>what we're trying for now. He still doesn't want to go to the doctor-
>but it's a start!

phoenix-419

2006-06-10, 9:21 pm

I think the only way to lose the battle is to give up trying, no? Can
you come limp? or have you given up on ejaculating too?

I can't have an orgasm rubbing anything against my clit. Not even my
own fingers. (I masturbate w/ the wonderful *massaging* shower head my
hubby bought me)
I come when he goes down on me- but even that takes a long time. And
it's not his *skill*, it's just the way I am--always have been.


halfmast@bellsouth.net wrote:[vbcol=seagreen]
> I had this problem while married to my first wife. I was the one who
> brought up the subject. She said she didn't consider it a problem.
> She could get off by rubbing my penis against her clit. It was
> uncomfortable for me, but I still managed to come afterwards. Also, i
> was (and still am) capable of delivering good oral sex to my partner
> (now my second wife), at least I have never had any complaints in that
> department. As for PE, it's a thing of the past for me, because E is
> a thing of the past, having lost the battle against ED. Oh well, it
> was good while it lasted.
>
> On 9 Jun 2006 17:02:15 -0700, "phoenix-419" <phoenix-419@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>

phoenix-419

2006-06-10, 9:21 pm

Actually, I mentioned the blow jobs because I'm not sure they
constitute the same principle as self-masturbating- which is what the
ED/PE website advised. Does anyone know? I know, at least for us, oral
sex doesn't seem to create as much of a problem as intercourse- but I'm
not sure if the point of the exercise is the ejaculation ie- lubing the
works- or if it's something else.


Michael wrote:[vbcol=seagreen]
> It's hard to complain about a good blow-job. Keep up the good work. ;)
>
> "phoenix-419" <phoenix-419@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Michael

2006-06-11, 9:21 pm

Isn't "self-masturbating" redundant?



"phoenix-419" <phoenix-419@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Actually, I mentioned the blow jobs because I'm not sure they
> constitute the same principle as self-masturbating-



phoenix-419

2006-06-12, 2:23 am

No. Not really. One can mastubate another. I was stressing the point of
*me* making him come- rather than he making himself come, which is what
the site advised. Would you prefer if I had instead written:
"masturbating himself"? It's all in how you perceive the semantics.

Masturbate: v. To excite one's own or another's genitals by means other
than intercourse.

Michael wrote:[vbcol=seagreen]
> Isn't "self-masturbating" redundant?
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Mungy@HorribleISP.gov

2006-06-12, 9:21 pm

"phoenix-419" <phoenix-419@hotmail.com> wrote:

>No. Not really. One can mastubate another. I was stressing the point of
>*me* making him come- rather than he making himself come, which is what
>the site advised. Would you prefer if I had instead written:
>"masturbating himself"? It's all in how you perceive the semantics.


OK...but then you go and write this:

>Masturbate: v. To excite one's own or another's genitals by means other
>than intercourse.


See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masturbate

"Masturbation is the manual excitation of the sexual organs, most
often to the point of orgasm. ..."

The essential seems to be "manual" (i.e. by hand) so a BJ would not be
included but I wonder how one would classify a foot job? Is that not
masturbation too? Or frottage against some other part of the body or
even rubbing against another animate (say the family pet) or inanimate
(e.g., bed sheets) object? Hmmm, I think you've opened a can of worms
here.

I can be equally pedantic about your statement:

"I was stressing the point of *me* making him come- rather than he
making himself come, which is what the site advised."

But you don't make him come (orgasm) at all. You provide mental or
manual stimulus but he's the one making himself orgasm. Unless of
course you're a hormone-overloaded teen who regardless of his thought
process can orgasm as easily as taking a pee.

(Obviously I don't have anything to do at the moment <g>.)
[vbcol=seagreen]
>Michael wrote:
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phoenix-419

2006-06-13, 4:21 pm

> >Masturbate: v. To excite one's own or another's genitals by means other[vbcol=seagreen]
Definition from "The American Heritage Dictionary" Third Edition.
Dell Publishing
1540 Broadway
NY, NY 10036

I suggest if you want to argue definitions to contact them.

I've never communicated with anyone who considered being pedantic a
good thing. :\
And if you truly have nothing better to do than to argue semantics, an
orgasm, according to the definition in *Medterms.com* is involuntary.
Therefore, according to your logic, my husband doesn't *make* himself
come either.

Mungy@HorribleISP.gov wrote:[vbcol=seagreen]
> "phoenix-419" <phoenix-419@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> OK...but then you go and write this:
>
>
> See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masturbate
>
> "Masturbation is the manual excitation of the sexual organs, most
> often to the point of orgasm. ..."
>
> The essential seems to be "manual" (i.e. by hand) so a BJ would not be
> included but I wonder how one would classify a foot job? Is that not
> masturbation too? Or frottage against some other part of the body or
> even rubbing against another animate (say the family pet) or inanimate
> (e.g., bed sheets) object? Hmmm, I think you've opened a can of worms
> here.
>
> I can be equally pedantic about your statement:
>
> "I was stressing the point of *me* making him come- rather than he
> making himself come, which is what the site advised."
>
> But you don't make him come (orgasm) at all. You provide mental or
> manual stimulus but he's the one making himself orgasm. Unless of
> course you're a hormone-overloaded teen who regardless of his thought
> process can orgasm as easily as taking a pee.
>
> (Obviously I don't have anything to do at the moment <g>.)
>
>

Michael

2006-06-14, 9:21 pm

I admit that I was just being technical and picky and not addressing your
main point. Feeling ornery, perhaps?

Regardless, the traditional definition of masturbation has always been to
self-stimulate. Only in recent years, have people incorrectly been using the
word. You don't masturbate someone else, you manually fondle or stimulate
them.


"phoenix-419" <phoenix-419@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> No. Not really. One can mastubate another. I was stressing the point of
> *me* making him come- rather than he making himself come, which is what
> the site advised. Would you prefer if I had instead written:
> "masturbating himself"? It's all in how you perceive the semantics.
>
> Masturbate: v. To excite one's own or another's genitals by means other
> than intercourse.
>
> Michael wrote:
>



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